Brutality in Saudi

[decocker 7,198]

The Saudi religious scholars who come up with this stuff would disagree.

This is the cue for some non-Saudi Muslim to show up and scream about how Saudi Islam isn't real Islam, blah blah blah ...... and if anyone says anything, then the report button gets hit.

To me, the snake handlers down south are just as Christian as the Catholics of Boston. Makes no difference. But it makes all the difference in the world to them.

well yeah. i know that that saudi religious scholars would disagree, i was talking about the posters involved this forum.

i also see all christians as christians, no matter their personal affiliation. my childhood raised in a christian family with very liberal christian parents (now very, they've evolved) alongside very evangelical christian family has been the driving force in my shedding religion all together. i can't stand hypocrisy. and life within religion is rife with it.

since i can't claim a religion, i guess i feel more justified than a religious person to call bs. i don't have to hold myself accountable to a differing ideology. anyway i don't hit the report button, i'd rather hash it out till the thread gets locked.

[himher 634]

Who is "they"?

My bad. They be the Saudis. They are unique in this (separating places like restaurants into sections), as far as I can tell.

Edited April 12, 2013 by himher

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

My bad. They be the Saudis. They are unique in this (separating places like restaurants into sections), as far as I can tell.

You mean the ruling family in SA. It's not like the Saudi people have much of a say on what is and what isn't the law. Women certainly got no voice. None at all. Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship. They call it a kingdom, I guess, but that's really the same thing. So if "they" are the Saudis, then "they" did not decide this for themselves. "They" had that decided for them.

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

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[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

http://world.time.com/2013/03/27/in-saudi-arabia-womens-voices-are-starting-to-be-heard/

It's not the best of times for women in Saudi Arabia, but they are making progress.

[mota bhai 2,675]

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And there you have it. No congregating in the public square allowed unless it is to celebrate Dear Leader.

Time to bow out of this thread before the tanks show up.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

man, if i had a dollar for every time someone said we "aren't allowed" to talk about islam, in a thread where we're talking about islam

Let me ask this... Why do you think this forum is here ? I mean what is it's purpose ? It really does not fit for a Visa info sight does it ?

How do you sub-stain a free site ? Advertising !

How do you get people to advertise ... Traffic. .

What drives traffic--- Subjects like politics and religion of course.

How do you get users to hang around after their Visa is done... Same answer

What to know why the super hypersensitivity to Islam subjects. ??

Muslims as a rule are not a real tolerant bunch of people questioning their religion. Word gets out Visa Journey is anti-Muslim....True or not... it could put a huge dent in traffic even shut them down

Want the truth... follow the money

This forum is a double edged sword.. Drives lots of traffic,, but we can't have them going all Salman Rushdie on us can we.

Sometimes the truth will set you free.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Let me ask this... Why do you think this forum is here ? I mean what is it's purpose ? It really does not fit for a Visa info sight does it ?

How do you sub-stain a free site ? Advertising !

How do you get people to advertise ... Traffic. .

What drives traffic--- Subjects like politics and religion of course.

How do you get users to hang around after their Visa is done... Same answer

What to know why the super hypersensitivity to Islam subjects. ??

Muslims as a rule are not a real tolerant bunch of people questioning their religion. Word gets out Visa Journey is anti-Muslim....True or not... it could put a huge dent in traffic even shut them down

Want the truth... follow the money

This forum is a double edged sword.. Drives lots of traffic,, but we can't have them going all Salman Rushdie on us can we.

Sometimes the truth will set you free.

The report button just got hit a million times. That will be used as the pretext to persecute you. The ending has been written, it's just too bad you had to make it so easy.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And there you have it. No congregating in the public square allowed unless it is to celebrate Dear Leader.

[Karee 4,190]

Let me ask this... Why do you think this forum is here ? I mean what is it's purpose ? It really does not fit for a Visa info sight does it ?

How do you sub-stain a free site ? Advertising !

How do you get people to advertise ... Traffic. .

What drives traffic--- Subjects like politics and religion of course.

How do you get users to hang around after their Visa is done... Same answer

What to know why the super hypersensitivity to Islam subjects. ??

Muslims as a rule are not a real tolerant bunch of people questioning their religion. Word gets out Visa Journey is anti-Muslim....True or not... it could put a huge dent in traffic even shut them down

Want the truth... follow the money

This forum is a double edged sword.. Drives lots of traffic,, but we can't have them going all Salman Rushdie on us can we.

Sometimes the truth will set you free.

Tell Kip I said hi.

[decocker 7,198]

Muslims as a rule are not a real tolerant bunch of people questioning their religion. Word gets out Visa Journey is anti-Muslim....True or not... it could put a huge dent in traffic even shut them down

perfect example bro. hypocrisy. do you think christians are open to people questioning their religion? OF COURSE NOT. and i know that from experience.

you don't see your own bias!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://world.time.co...ng-to-be-heard/

It's not the best of times for women in Saudi Arabia, but they are making progress.

No see. that was not so hard. thank you..That was my only point the whole time..

[mota bhai 2,675]

perfect example bro. hypocrisy. do you think christians are open to people questioning their religion? OF COURSE NOT. and i know that from experience.

you don't see your own bias!

Which Christian government has sponsored death squads in the last century to kill a blasphemer?

[himher 634]

You mean the ruling family in SA. It's not like the Saudi people have much of a say on what is and what isn't the law. Women certainly got no voice. None at all. Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship. They call it a kingdom, I guess, but that's really the same thing. So if "they" are the Saudis, then "they" did not decide this for themselves. "They" had that decided for them.

LOL I remember thinking like this-before I lived there and stuff. if you break the law it is not the royal family who gets the attention of the authorities, it is an average Saudi. The royal family in SA is certainly not 'watching' the restaurants in the little town of Rhahima that we frequented. Nor was anyone else of an official nature. When we ate as a family we sat in the family section. When we went to lunch from work we ate in the men's section. Those are the rules and they are understood by all. When Saudis don't want to follow the law - they simply ignore it. Example there is no respect for traffic laws as far as I can tell and the Royal family isn't out there "bringing people to justice" over it. If they did their incarceration rate would be higher than ours for sure.

It be "Saudi people" not royal family who constitute the police, the military, the judges, and the officials in each town in that country. The religious police, Muttawa who enforce the religious laws, come from the people, not from the royal family. They decide the application of the law. It is the royal family who tends not to step outside those basic ruling principles or the people raise hell. The current king wishes to implement driving for women. The religious authorities believe that this is not good. It hasn't happened.

So who do you think decides what over there?

Edited April 12, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

perfect example bro. hypocrisy. do you think christians are open to people questioning their religion? OF COURSE NOT. and i know that from experience.

you don't see your own bias!

agree a lot of Christians are fanatical zealots also. Only thing is they don't try to kill people and blow stuff up when people disagree.

Opps abortion clinics... On second thought you are right LOL

What you don't see is my lack of bias.. I dislike all religious zealots equally.