UCLA cops taser ID-less student

[aussiewench 9]

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

aussie, i've never seen anyone get hurt when they do what the policeman tells them to do. be polite, keep your hands visible at all times, and obey the policeman.

[mawilson 2,133]

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

aussie, i've never seen anyone get hurt when they do what the policeman tells them to do. be polite, keep your hands visible at all times, and obey the policeman.

They shouldn't have the power to do what they like if you disobey. According to you,

if I'm "impolite" it's ok to taser me?

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

aussie, i've never seen anyone get hurt when they do what the policeman tells them to do. be polite, keep your hands visible at all times, and obey the policeman.

They shouldn't have the power to do what they like if you disobey. According to you,

if I'm "impolite" it's ok to taser me?

being impolite by shouting expetives at the police sure won't put you in a favorable light with them.

to test that idea, go to your local biker bar and use some of the words he was using at the police. report back if the bikers were amused and receptive to your view.

[mawilson 2,133]

being impolite by shouting expetives at the police sure won't put you in a favorable light with them.

to test that idea, go to your local biker bar and use some of the words he was using at the police. report back if the bikers were amused and receptive to your view.

So it's acceptable for the police to be on about the same level of lawlessness as the bikers in a local bar?

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I don't see any evidence of "shouting expletives at the police"

Have you honestly never lost your cool a little bit in a situation you found frustrating?

Edited November 16, 2006 by robinklake

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

being impolite by shouting expetives at the police sure won't put you in a favorable light with them.

to test that idea, go to your local biker bar and use some of the words he was using at the police. report back if the bikers were amused and receptive to your view.

So it's acceptable for the police to be on about the same level of lawlessness as the bikers in a local bar?

provoking speech will earn anyone an attitude adjustment.

some jurisdictions even have a criminal code for such.

[aussiewench 9]

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

aussie, i've never seen anyone get hurt when they do what the policeman tells them to do. be polite, keep your hands visible at all times, and obey the policeman.

I have seen enough video evidence and accounts of things like this to know that the police do overstep their bounds and violate basic rights just because they can. And when one objects they are subject to tazzering, arrest, resisting arrest blah blah blah. Its total BS. Yes there are good cops, but there is also a lot on a power trip. I won't even go near the BS that has resulted here in the US as a result and flow-on effect of the Patriot Act.

I watched a video yesterday of a guy that was parked on the side of the road. He was seriously not doing anything wrong or out of the ordinary. Police pulled up, asked to see ID. The guy asked why. All the cop kept saying was the words 'I'm investigating'. The guy asked several times 'what are you investigating, I'm not doing anything wrong'. Note here: I always believed one didn't have to show ID, and hubby being ex agent agrees, only the Patriot Act has made it so, police state. Anyway, this guy in the car kept saying 'arrest me then because I have rights and I'm not showing you my ID'. He was arrested. His young daughter in the car started screaming, noooooooo. The second police officer held the car door shut so she couldn't get out. When she did, because she was scared as her father was being arrested, she was tackled to the ground. Mean while two other officers arrived and helped keep her down Big men They handcuffed her and she was screaming 'get off me'. I mean #######. This stuff is crazy.

One doesn't always have to be doing something wrong to suffer this kind of sh!te. Evidence is abundant to those with their eyes wide open.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

I don't see any evidence of "shouting expletives at the police"

Have you honestly never lost your cool a little bit in a situation you found frustrating?

not with cops, armed with tasers and guns.

Seriously. Just over 4 months here and I'm sick of hearing about all this shite. Police bullies....police state. If it wasn't for my husband, I sure wouldn't be here in the US. Its nuts.

aussie, i've never seen anyone get hurt when they do what the policeman tells them to do. be polite, keep your hands visible at all times, and obey the policeman.

I have seen enough video evidence and accounts of things like this to know that the police do overstep their bounds and violate basic rights just because they can. And when one objects they are subject to tazzering, arrest, resisting arrest blah blah blah. Its total BS. Yes there are good cops, but there is also a lot on a power trip. I won't even go near the BS that has resulted here in the US as a result and flow-on effect of the Patriot Act.

I watched a video yesterday of a guy that was parked on the side of the road. He was seriously not doing anything wrong or out of the ordinary. Police pulled up, asked to see ID. The guy asked why. All the cop kept saying was the words 'I'm investigating'. The guy asked several times 'what are you investigating, I'm not doing anything wrong'. Note here: I always believed one didn't have to show ID, and hubby being ex agent agrees, only the Patriot Act has made it so, police state. Anyway, this guy in the car kept saying 'arrest me then because I have rights and I'm not showing you my ID'. He was arrested. His young daughter in the car started screaming, noooooooo. The second police officer held the car door shut so she couldn't get out. When she did, because she was scared as her father was being arrested, she was tackled to the ground. Mean while two other officers arrived and helped keep her down Big men They handcuffed her and she was screaming 'get off me'. I mean #######. This stuff is crazy.

One doesn't always have to be doing something wrong to suffer this kind of sh!te. Evidence is abundant to those with their eyes wide open.

perhaps this individual parked on the side of the road made the residents nervous, so they called the police to check it out. as for the legality of asking for id, i'll let one of vj's attorney's handle that one.

[mawilson 2,133]

Note here: I always believed one didn't have to show ID, and hubby being ex agent agrees

And indeed, you don't -- but you do need a driver's license to drive (and the guy was in a car.)

[aussiewench 9]

Note here: I always believed one didn't have to show ID, and hubby being ex agent agrees

And indeed, you don't -- but you do need a driver's license to drive (and the guy was in a car.)

Technicality, he was not behind the wheel as he was standing on the grass behind the vehicle. It is my understanding that one must be behind the wheel.

Edited November 16, 2006 by aussiewench

[mrsushi66 0]

Should police be held to higher standard? Yes...

Are they human? Yes...

Police dont just show up and roust people... Someone called them and gave them a description of the situation. They came and observed the situation and made a judgement call. Was it a bad one? I dont know cause I wasnt there and that video is not conclusive in my opinion.

Cops are just trying to do their job and yes like the human population their are good ones and there are bad ones, we hope the bad ones are found and removed from service but it doesnt always happen.

In general I have found that if you dont give the cops a reason to subdue you they wont. They will walk you out of a place and they will send you on your way. Maybe this is one of those cases that got out of hand but I would like to think better of the police than that.

In the end they are humans doing a very stressful job.

Paul misses Anna.

[isleta521 5]

Cant see the clip caus im at work.

Have a couple good friends that are cops that I lift with at the Gym. The ####### they have to put up with. Sometimes it pretty rewarding. Most are (not all by no means) there working to try to help people. One of my friends had a Kid spit in her face. I would have kicked his . . . anyway, Im not a cop nor would I want that type of dangerous job. I make enough mistakes at work as it is.

Another thing. Try to be rude to an officer in Germany or Mexico. Then see what happens. I would take the bikers over them anyday.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Campus cops are always a$$holes.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Cant see the clip caus im at work.

Have a couple good friends that are cops that I lift with at the Gym. The ####### they have to put up with. Sometimes it pretty rewarding. Most are (not all by no means) there working to try to help people. One of my friends had a Kid spit in her face. I would have kicked his . . . anyway, Im not a cop nor would I want that type of dangerous job. I make enough mistakes at work as it is.

Another thing. Try to be rude to an officer in Germany or Mexico. Then see what happens. I would take the bikers over them anyday.

herr polizei is to be obeyed