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[Private 1]

Honeyblonde, could you possibly get Private in touch with Fatimah? I know she's probably uber busy right now, but maybe after her husband is here and settled, she could offer some guidance

Fatimah is (or at least was) in Kiya's group, but I will ask her to message Private here. Her patience and trust that Allah would work things out was truly an awesome example to me and won her a very special place in my heart. Private, maybe she can be your friend through this and at least provide some support from someone who has been through what you are going through.

I am sorry if I said that gave the impression that I would go UA, I said that he wanted me too, but we have come up another plan, I will move to Morocco, or transfer closer to him like Spain. Can you believe they want to offer me Embassy duty in Morocco because of my language skills? Moving overseas takes some time and I think that we have made a plan to make ourselves feel better. Thank you for you kind words becuase this is the nicest anybody has been to be on the site, not counting the women that have been through what I am going through. However, I have really given up on this country. We will fight visa and in the time until I can leave which is a long time from now 2010. He will either be here or I will transfer or move with him. I have started to save to move and also we have planned to set up a round of me going to visit him on leave. But yes this is the hardest thing and the biggest slap in the face that I have ever had. I have served in the combat zone and they want me to go now. I have scarficed time with my son and all the things that have gone on with me and the mlitary and this lady in my opinion spits on me and tell me that I am fuard. I serve this country and I want to cheat it. I am in the military attempting to make it better and I am going to hurt it too. Can you imagine how I feel.. I am sorry I will PM you.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

one thing...

No one knows what was shared in other PM's between the OP and other VJ members that may have influenced what has said. Some people choose to not only not disclose the contents of such PM's, but also not mention their exchange on the boards.

Then, they should keep it ALL to themselves rather than claim privacy AFTER they have let the cat out of the bag.

[jordanianprincess 0]

That would be true if I wanted to convince you or anyone else about something, which I am not concerned with. I don't feel the need to prove myself to you or anyone else. You don't know how I formed my opinion and you don't know the facts that led to it, but again, if I wanted to convince you then yes I might bother sharing those facts but I really don't care to convince you. Like I have stated, you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

This isn't about convincing anyone. It's about accusing someone without foundation. There is no doubt that I don't know how you formed your opinion because the thread you refered to doesn't offer any foundation for the accusation, and, if you have more evidence, you are unwilling to share it.

Far back, I said that the relationship between Hicham913 and Judy is between them. She testified that she loves him and supports him, so who are we to be accusing him of something we do not even care to prove? If this accusation is something that you believe should be private between you, Hicham913 and Judy, why post it here, THEN claim privacy? Lame, lame, lame.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, again. Again there is nothing that states I must share the foundation of my opinion with you. Did I say it should be private? I didn't, just because I don't care to share it with you, that doesn't mean its private. There are plenty of others who know what I am talking about.

[peezey 0]

That would be true if I wanted to convince you or anyone else about something, which I am not concerned with. I don't feel the need to prove myself to you or anyone else. You don't know how I formed my opinion and you don't know the facts that led to it, but again, if I wanted to convince you then yes I might bother sharing those facts but I really don't care to convince you. Like I have stated, you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

This isn't about convincing anyone. It's about accusing someone without foundation. There is no doubt that I don't know how you formed your opinion because the thread you refered to doesn't offer any foundation for the accusation, and, if you have more evidence, you are unwilling to share it.

Far back, I said that the relationship between Hicham913 and Judy is between them. She testified that she loves him and supports him, so who are we to be accusing him of something we do not even care to prove? If this accusation is something that you believe should be private between you, Hicham913 and Judy, why post it here, THEN claim privacy? Lame, lame, lame.

what is going on around here?? "WE" aren't accusing him of anything, JP made a comment based on what she knows and the opinion she's formed. It never ceases to amaze me, in not just this circumstance, men are defended as if they are sad sacks who cannot speak for themselves, but women tear other women to shreads with personal attacks and empty challenges.

Seriously?? A negative comments thread? Ok, great, I'll go start it, that's a fantastic idea.

[jordanianprincess 0]

one thing...

No one knows what was shared in other PM's between the OP and other VJ members that may have influenced what has said. Some people choose to not only not disclose the contents of such PM's, but also not mention their exchange on the boards.

Then, they should keep it ALL to themselves rather than claim privacy AFTER they have let the cat out of the bag.

Who claimed privacy? Don't be offended because I don't care to tell you, there are others that know.

That would be true if I wanted to convince you or anyone else about something, which I am not concerned with. I don't feel the need to prove myself to you or anyone else. You don't know how I formed my opinion and you don't know the facts that led to it, but again, if I wanted to convince you then yes I might bother sharing those facts but I really don't care to convince you. Like I have stated, you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

This isn't about convincing anyone. It's about accusing someone without foundation. There is no doubt that I don't know how you formed your opinion because the thread you refered to doesn't offer any foundation for the accusation, and, if you have more evidence, you are unwilling to share it.

Far back, I said that the relationship between Hicham913 and Judy is between them. She testified that she loves him and supports him, so who are we to be accusing him of something we do not even care to prove? If this accusation is something that you believe should be private between you, Hicham913 and Judy, why post it here, THEN claim privacy? Lame, lame, lame.

what is going on around here?? "WE" aren't accusing him of anything, JP made a comment based on what she knows and the opinion she's formed. It never ceases to amaze me, in not just this circumstance, men are defended as if they are sad sacks who cannot speak for themselves, but women tear other women to shreads with personal attacks and empty challenges.

Seriously?? A negative comments thread? Ok, great, I'll go start it, that's a fantastic idea.

Thank you!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Thanks for sharing your opinion, again. Again there is nothing that states I must share the foundation of my opinion with you. Did I say it should be private? I didn't, just because I don't care to share it with you, that doesn't mean its private. There are plenty of others who know what I am talking about.

So, JP, you and your little know-it-all opinion club can be allowed to come on the boards, make accusations out in public to someone, and then demure when questioned that they know what they know and others are not to know it. Thanks for the hypocrisy you call an opinion. No wonder there is so much contention on the board.

[peezey 0]

Honeyblonde, could you possibly get Private in touch with Fatimah? I know she's probably uber busy right now, but maybe after her husband is here and settled, she could offer some guidance

Fatimah is (or at least was) in Kiya's group, but I will ask her to message Private here. Her patience and trust that Allah would work things out was truly an awesome example to me and won her a very special place in my heart. Private, maybe she can be your friend through this and at least provide some support from someone who has been through what you are going through.

I am sorry if I said that gave the impression that I would go UA, I said that he wanted me too, but we have come up another plan, I will move to Morocco, or transfer closer to him like Spain. Can you believe they want to offer me Embassy duty in Morocco because of my language skills? Moving overseas takes some time and I think that we have made a plan to make ourselves feel better. Thank you for you kind words becuase this is the nicest anybody has been to be on the site, not counting the women that have been through what I am going through. However, I have really given up on this country. We will fight visa and in the time until I can leave which is a long time from now 2010. He will either be here or I will transfer or move with him. I have started to save to move and also we have planned to set up a round of me going to visit him on leave. But yes this is the hardest thing and the biggest slap in the face that I have ever had. I have served in the combat zone and they want me to go now. I have scarficed time with my son and all the things that have gone on with me and the mlitary and this lady in my opinion spits on me and tell me that I am fuard. I serve this country and I want to cheat it. I am in the military attempting to make it better and I am going to hurt it too. Can you imagine how I feel.. I am sorry I will PM you.

I don't know your story, but if your man is in Morocco and they've offered you the embassy post in Morocco, I don't get the problem....that sounds like an amazing opportunity and a "free" way to be with your man.

[jordanianprincess 0]

Thanks for sharing your opinion, again. Again there is nothing that states I must share the foundation of my opinion with you. Did I say it should be private? I didn't, just because I don't care to share it with you, that doesn't mean its private. There are plenty of others who know what I am talking about.

So, JP, you and your little know-it-all opinion club can be allowed to come on the boards, make accusations out in public to someone, and then demure when questioned that they know what they know and others are not to know it. Thanks for the hypocrisy you call an opinion. No wonder there is so much contention on the board.

You can keep trying to "annoy" me, its not gonna work. It's quite clear that you are just going after me now, but I really don't care. I actually find it quite flattering that you would take all this time to insult me. So is this your way of trying to get into the "club"?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

. . . there are others that know.

So says you. That could be a big, fat lie.

[peezey 0]

Thanks for sharing your opinion, again. Again there is nothing that states I must share the foundation of my opinion with you. Did I say it should be private? I didn't, just because I don't care to share it with you, that doesn't mean its private. There are plenty of others who know what I am talking about.

So, JP, you and your little know-it-all opinion club can be allowed to come on the boards, make accusations out in public to someone, and then demure when questioned that they know what they know and others are not to know it. Thanks for the hypocrisy you call an opinion. No wonder there is so much contention on the board.

I can't believe it took this many pages to debase into name calling. As was requested, negativity isn't to be posted here!!!!! Start a new thread for playground tactics!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

You can keep trying to "annoy" me, its not gonna work. It's quite clear that you are just going after me now, but I really don't care. I actually find it quite flattering that you would take all this time to insult me. So is this your way of trying to get into the "club"?

Let's see; you went after Hicham913, I questioned you, you responded. You continue to respond. It's clear that this is a dialogue, not a monologue.

I can't believe it took this many pages to debase into name calling. As was requested, negativity isn't to be posted here!!!!! Start a new thread for playground tactics!

You're late on seeing negativity. You should have started reading from the beginnning, post #6.

Edited November 16, 2006 by szsz

[jordanianprincess 0]

. . . there are others that know.

So says you. That could be a big, fat lie.

Maybe, maybe not. Don't really care to persuade you either way.

You can keep trying to "annoy" me, its not gonna work. It's quite clear that you are just going after me now, but I really don't care. I actually find it quite flattering that you would take all this time to insult me. So is this your way of trying to get into the "club"?

Let's see; you went after Hicham913, I questioned you, you responded. You continue to respond. It's clear that this is a dialogue, not a monologue.

I responded but I didn't insult you and told you many times that its MY opinion and you are entitled to yours. You always resort to insulting people when things don't go your way.

[peezey 0]

I responded but I didn't insult you and told you many times that its MY opinion and you are entitled to yours. You always resort to insulting people when things don't go your way.

JP!! I'm going to keep calling you names until you give in and tell Hicham congrats!!! You poo-head!

[jordanianprincess 0]

I responded but I didn't insult you and told you many times that its MY opinion and you are entitled to yours. You always resort to insulting people when things don't go your way.

JP!! I'm going to keep calling you names until you give in and tell Hicham congrats!!! You poo-head!

Congratulations on the "Golden Ticket"

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I responded but I didn't insult you and told you many times that its MY opinion and you are entitled to yours. You always resort to insulting people when things don't go your way.

You began your posts here with insults, JP. Then, you criticize me for questioning you as to why you insulted the OP. Now you complain about being insulted when nothing I have said has reached the level of what you have said to the OP. You have to accuse me of something, I guess, if for no other reason than to save face when I called you out for claiming that Hicham 913 PUBLICALLY ANNOUNCED he was divorcing his wife over the pace of the visa process.

If it was a PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT, where is it? I'm not asking for your private information. You said he did it PUBLICALLY. No confidences betrayed by demonstrating that this is true, so you're just mad cause you've been caught making false accusations. Then, you try to turn it back on me.

Edited November 16, 2006 by szsz