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[deeshla 0]

Well well well!

Hicham I'm sorry but I will not under any circumstances congratulate you.

I know your intentions, you have made them 100% clear to me- get the Visa and get to the states. If it doesn't happen fast enough with Judy then divorce her and try again a different way. I cannot believe you think people don't see through you. One can read Judy's threads and posts saying that you were divorcing her because the process was taking too long. It's clear what your intentions are and you expect us to congratulate you? Do you know how many times Judy said you are divorcing her if you didn't get approved by x date? I am appalled that you actually had the nerve to come back here and tell us your story. I hope people will learn from couples like you that there are clear warning signs of bad intentions that can't be ignored in the visa process from people like you.

Judy I feel bad for you that you are so desperate to believe these man's words. When someone says "I am divorcing you if I don't get approved soon" doens't that make a light go on upstairs? If he really wanted to be your husband and if he really loved you then he would be patient and you would get through this together with eachother's support.

I seriously hope that you rethink him coming here. There are several people who have said this to you here and I hope you are not blinded by your need of a man in your life. Please think carefully before you proceed with this person. We are looking out for you here and I hope you take our advice and observations into consideration. His intentions are not what you think- he has fooled you.

Good luck to you Judy.

Deeshla- I love you.

Woah! Thanks I love you, too. What did I do?

[sarah and hicham 3]

Well well well!

Hicham I'm sorry but I will not under any circumstances congratulate you.

I know your intentions, you have made them 100% clear to me- get the Visa and get to the states. If it doesn't happen fast enough with Judy then divorce her and try again a different way. I cannot believe you think people don't see through you. One can read Judy's threads and posts saying that you were divorcing her because the process was taking too long. It's clear what your intentions are and you expect us to congratulate you? Do you know how many times Judy said you are divorcing her if you didn't get approved by x date? I am appalled that you actually had the nerve to come back here and tell us your story. I hope people will learn from couples like you that there are clear warning signs of bad intentions that can't be ignored in the visa process from people like you.

Judy I feel bad for you that you are so desperate to believe these man's words. When someone says "I am divorcing you if I don't get approved soon" doens't that make a light go on upstairs? If he really wanted to be your husband and if he really loved you then he would be patient and you would get through this together with eachother's support.

I seriously hope that you rethink him coming here. There are several people who have said this to you here and I hope you are not blinded by your need of a man in your life. Please think carefully before you proceed with this person. We are looking out for you here and I hope you take our advice and observations into consideration. His intentions are not what you think- he has fooled you.

Good luck to you Judy.

Deeshla- I love you.

Woah! Thanks I love you, too. What did I do?

You made a very clear cut statement about ME/American woman relationships that was right one. LEt me go find it so I can smile again.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry571892

[deeshla 0]

Well well well!

Hicham I'm sorry but I will not under any circumstances congratulate you.

I know your intentions, you have made them 100% clear to me- get the Visa and get to the states. If it doesn't happen fast enough with Judy then divorce her and try again a different way. I cannot believe you think people don't see through you. One can read Judy's threads and posts saying that you were divorcing her because the process was taking too long. It's clear what your intentions are and you expect us to congratulate you? Do you know how many times Judy said you are divorcing her if you didn't get approved by x date? I am appalled that you actually had the nerve to come back here and tell us your story. I hope people will learn from couples like you that there are clear warning signs of bad intentions that can't be ignored in the visa process from people like you.

Judy I feel bad for you that you are so desperate to believe these man's words. When someone says "I am divorcing you if I don't get approved soon" doens't that make a light go on upstairs? If he really wanted to be your husband and if he really loved you then he would be patient and you would get through this together with eachother's support.

I seriously hope that you rethink him coming here. There are several people who have said this to you here and I hope you are not blinded by your need of a man in your life. Please think carefully before you proceed with this person. We are looking out for you here and I hope you take our advice and observations into consideration. His intentions are not what you think- he has fooled you.

Good luck to you Judy.

Deeshla- I love you.

Woah! Thanks I love you, too. What did I do?

You made a very clear cut statement about ME/American woman relationships that was right one. LEt me go find it so I can smile again.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry571892

I just calls 'em like I sees 'em, my friend.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I know you do! That's why I love you! Honest woman. Too bad we don't have more of that around here.

[cbd2cai 0]

that chicken??? sheesh tawook!! with lots of garlic sauce, yummmmm!

This woman really knows her sheesh !! Yeppers and it is DELICIOUS !

I want some for lunch

I think I'll stop by one of my favorite ME places on Saturday and pick up some sheesh . . . tawook that is, hehe, and lots of yummy fresh baked pita . . . they make the best around Dallas . . . and some baba ganoush , maybe humous . . . yummmmm!

Edited November 18, 2006 by cbd2cai

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Sheesh, women.

There needs to be more ME/NA men in this forum. Genuinely involved men, not just people who like to watch the fireworks. But there doesn't seem to be many. There needs to be a gender balance. These argument threads(between the same people over and over again) are an example of why I prefer working with men than women at a workplace. Even though men may be annoying at times(hehe), some women are much too catty. In my past jobs, working with men and women mixed was much easier than working with only women. I'm a woman and am sticking to my story.

This, I have to agree with, sis. I even told Captain Ewok that this was why this forum is the worst behaved one on VJ; too many catty women. Most women, especially young women, are catty, childish, petty, negative and love to talk about things they have no knowledge of. And they hate to be corrected for their bad behavior (parents spoiled them). That's why mature young men want nothing to do with them, and go for older women. I call it as I see it too, and you take the prize for the wisest quote of the week, my dear.

Edited November 18, 2006 by szsz

[sarah and hicham 3]

Sheesh, women.

There needs to be more ME/NA men in this forum. Genuinely involved men, not just people who like to watch the fireworks. But there doesn't seem to be many. There needs to be a gender balance. These argument threads(between the same people over and over again) are an example of why I prefer working with men than women at a workplace. Even though men may be annoying at times(hehe), some women are much too catty. In my past jobs, working with men and women mixed was much easier than working with only women. I'm a woman and am sticking to my story.

This, I have to agree with, sis. I even told Captain Ewok that this was why this forum is the worst behaved one on VJ; too many catty women. Most women, especially young women, are catty, childish, petty, negative and love to talk about things they have no knowledge of. And they hate to be corrected for their bad behavior (parents spoiled them). That's why mature young men want nothing to do with them, and go for older women. I call it as I see it too, and you take the prize for the wisest quote of the week, my dear.

haha that is hysterical, really. I'm sorry to break the news to you but those Moroccan internet casanovas are hardley being selective. Quality Moroccan men are hard to come by.

Thanks for giving us a peek into your past as a young women. I'm sorry but you can't apply how you were to others who are young. Luckily we're not all like you were when you were young.

QUOTE(Bosco @ Nov 16 2006, 07:03 PM)

OK, you asked

I cannot believe the personal ####### people post on these boards and then act dumbfounded when people respond unfavorably.

I have been sickened in the past (here and in other groups) the way American women prop up the men from MENA countries while insulting the MENA women.

It disgusts me how some people infantilize their men, talking about them like proud momma's at their first steps. Pride in a husband is one thing, acting like he is a boy is another.

I hate the orientalism syndrome that goes one, where the men are like exotic possessions, while at the same showing disdain for the culture and/or religion.

Is it any wonder that women infantilize their men when you see the vast age differences between them? This is especially poignant when the man is in his 20's - a time I think most Moroccan men (sorry! generalization!) are still living at home, watching soccer at cafes and taking pictures of themselves in muscle t-shirts while fraterniziing with hordes of ambisexual-looking cohorts.

I know the age difference topic has been beaten to death, but it really IS a big trend that contributes to what you are talking about. The "orientalism syndrome" too -- you are right on in saying that. It is compartmentalization, putting this marriage experience in a sort of box to bring out and show off to oneself. I see that this rarely has anything to do with whether the woman has converted or not.

This is why I have joined some groups thinking I would have something in common with other wives of Moroccans and found instead a group of scary people that seem to be sugar-mamas to a motely crue of Moroccan cyber-casanovas (albiet "really nice guys") 20 years and generally 100 pounds their junior.

Sorry, I am a rude cookie tonight.

These are the quotes of the century. Thanks bosco and deeshla.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I wasn't talking about me, Sarah. Just being honest about what I see here. You appreciate honesty, so it should be no problem for you to respect my honesty.

When it comes to posting personal stuff, there is a great deal of ignorance posted, so please don't be dumbfounded when it, too, is commented on.

Edited November 18, 2006 by szsz

[sarah and hicham 3]

I wasn't talking about me, Sarah. Just being honest about what I see here. You appreciate honesty, so it should be no problem for you to respect my honesty.

Sorry, I forgot you were wise with your old age. I really need to learn to respect my elders more, geez. Thank you for your honesty- i'm still waiting for you to get honest with yourself about age differences.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I am honest about them. You have no way to know what you are talking about. I do.

[sarah and hicham 3]

I am honest about them. You have no way to know what you are talking about. I do.

Ok oh wise one, thank you.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

And thank you, unwise one.

[sarah and hicham 3]

And thank you, unwise one.

I just want you to know that you are a good reminder of someone I don't want to be like when I reach 50 or however old you are. I don't want to become so desperate that I will believe a man half my age is in love with me. That just doesn't work, sowwwwwwwie mamma.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If you continue to spend all day here posting when you have a husband living with you, you will learn more about divorce than you will about love, Sarah. That is my prediction. When my husband gets here, you won't see me here from one end of the day to the next posting insults like you do.

[Bosco 1]