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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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One more note: The topic should actually read "CSC I-129F Processing Delay Calculator..." Apologies to those mislead by my imprecise use of language. Yes, I do know the difference.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell your Congressman or Senator exactly how many days you can expect your petition to be delayed according to the USCIS's own published figures on the CSC slowdown? Well, now you can!

In part of my never ending quest to get to analyze the USCIS's published data and interpret it in meaningful ways, I have created a spreadsheet that can calculate one's expected NOA2 date based on seven different hypothetical scenarios. I believe this is a very useful tool for those who are working with congressional offices, as I recommended in my previous post. Though the hypothetical scenarios are somewhat crude, they should give you a sense of why we need to fight to get the CSC back-on-track in terms of processing I-129Fs.

Directions:

1. Download the excel spreadsheet I have prepared here. (Note: this spreadsheet also includes all the data I prepared for my CSC data analysis thread)

2. Make sure it is open to the "projected delays" tab.

3. Enter the date of your NOA1 in the yellow box at the top. (Note: this will only work through NOA1s issued through December, 2012)

4. Look in awe at the potentially catastrophic effects on our petitions if this slowdown continues.

How It Works:

I've left all of my calculations plainly visible for those who are interested. But for those who do not want to reverse engineer it, the spreadsheet works as follows: It simply takes the date you input and assumes that your petition submitted on that date will be completed once all other applications still pending at the time of your submission have been completed. For each of the seven scenarios provided, it then counts down completions per day (using the USCIS's published rates through January, 2013 and then my hypothetical rates thereafter) until the app has been completed and then reports the completion dates to the top grid for your viewing pleasure.

Limitations:

1. This spreadsheet assumes that, on average, petitions will be processed serially in the order they are received. Obviously that assumption still leaves room for error with any individual petition, so the date provided is a rough estimate.

2. For simplicity's sake, this spreadsheet does not distinguish between weekends and weekdays as far as the service center's completions per day is concerned. This shouldn't drastically effect the estimated completion date, but it may slightly (+/- 2-3 days) in certain cases.

3. The estimated completion scenarios are deliberately crude. They start by assuming that the 537 completions per month rate of January 2013 continued through February and March (in truth, I suspect the February and March rates were likely even lower based on Igor's list data, but I'm using only published data for the spreadsheet). They then assume a flat rate (either the median or fast rate) begins at the specified month and continues indefinitely without change. For now, they do not try to capture the undulating nature of the processing rates over time (though I will have an updated version that does so in the near future); rather, they just provide baselines for worst-case, best-case, and middle-ground scenarios.

4. I'm not perfect and there may be errors somewhere in there. I didn't test every date myself. Please report any errors you find.

5. Note that some July filers may see that they should have been processed by now according to the worst-case scenario data. Yes, I know. That's not an error. It just means that February and March completion rates were likely much worse than we know as of yet and that even the worst case scenarios here are optimistic in a sense.

My next project will be to make some graphs that extrapolate these calculations to truly show the devastating effect of the slowdown on the expected completion dates of those who filed in the fall. So if you find any mistakes in this version, please let me know before I build upon it further.

All I can say is that you never cease to amaze me with all your fact and figures! And thank you for sharing!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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And one more note: I realize now that it should provide answers for NOA1 dates through January, 2013, as well. So go ahead and try. But please note that the projections for those dates are based solely on the hypothetical figures.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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*** title changed per OP request ****

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
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Amazing work, thank you so much for this, even if it is horribly depressing. If things don't pick up, looks like I'll be waiting until January 2014 -- 511 days from filing. Has anyone ever waited 500+ days? There might be a lot of us if this situation doesn't change.

Even the best case scenarios are longer than I like to see, but at this point I still am holding out hope for a July approval.

Again, thank you for all your hard work!

Relationship since April 2006

K-1 Visa: I-129F filed November 6, 2012, NOA2 May 17, 2013, Interview and Approval July 24, 2013

POE San Diego, September 13, 2013, Wedding October 25, 2013

AOS filed November 19, 2013, EAD/AP received January 30, 2014, interview and AOS Approval on February 27, 2014.

ROC filed December 3, 2015, NOA1 12/4/15, Biometrics 12/31/15, ROC Approval on June 16, 2016, 10-Year Green Card received June 22, 2016.

N400 filed September 14, 2023, same day acceptance and Biometric Reuse notice, Interview on 2/13/24: Passed and same day oath. ALL DONE WITH USCIS.

No RFE at any stage, thanks to VisaJourney!

Detailed Timeline Below!

 

Relationship:
2006 April 01: Met online, music site, 2007 February 20: Met in person, Finland, 2007 - 2012 met several times in Finland and California

K-1 Visa:
2012 November 06: Sent I-129F (NOA1 on 11/9/2012)
2013 May 14: Contacted Congressman
2013 May 17: I-129F NOA2 Approved
2013 June 03: NVC Received (NVC left 6/6/13)
2013 June 10: Consulate Received, 2013 June 13: Medical, 2013 June 25: Sent Packet 3/4
2013 July 24: Interview in Helsinki, 2013 July 27: Visa Received
2013 September 13: POE to USA, San Diego

AOS:
2013 October 22: SSN Received
2013 October 25: Wedding, San Marcos, CA
2013 November 19: AOS, AP, EAD sent (NOA 1 on 11/22/13)
2013 December 17: Biometrics, San Marcos, CA, 2013 December 24: Online status changed to Testing/Interview

2014 January 23: Interview notice mailed (for 2/27), 2014 January 24: EAD card production, AP approval (card received 1/30/2014)

2014 February 27: Interview and Approval, GC in production (card received March 6, 2014)

 

ROC:

2015 December 03: mailed I-751 package

2015 December 04: NOA1 extension letter, 2015 December 31: Biometrics appointment

2016 June 16: Approval - Online status changed to Document Production, mailed 6/20/16

2016 June 22: 10-Year Green Card Received, done with USCIS for a while!

 

N-400 Citizenship:

2023 September 14: filed N-400 online

2023 September 14: same day acceptance notice and "Biometrics Reuse" notice

2023 December 28: notice of interview scheduled for February 13, 2024

2024 February 13: naturalization interview (five-year rule) passed, same day oath - now a US Citizen and done with USCIS!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Update: I fixed one very, very small error in the spreadsheet (would only have affected NOA1s before July, 2012 by a miniscule amount), included a number of months column (I know some people prefer to think of their dates in terms of months), and perked up the interface color scheme a tad. The improved file has replaced the old file at the same link in the OP.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Good job I&B. I've only had a time to quick look it over and enter my NOA1 date, but these seem to be pretty good projections.

Thanks, Zipline. Actually, your thread on projections gave me the "ah ha!" moment necessary to figure out how to reconcile the projections with the inconsistent data provided by the USCIS. I ultimately ended up introducing a fourth variable to the completions, pending, and receipts in order to calculate an adjusted number of receipts that accounts for the disparity we talked about there, which then lets me prorate the number of pending petitions consistently between months.

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Wouldn't it be nice to be able to tell your Congressman or Senator exactly how many days you can expect your petition to be delayed according to the USCIS's own published figures on the CSC slowdown? Well, now you can!

I still don't get it. I plugged my timeline into your spreadsheet and it's predictive ability just isn't working out for me.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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I still don't get it. I plugged my timeline into your spreadsheet and it's predictive ability just isn't working out for me.

That's because your petition was approved far faster than the average petition for some reason. If you are not in the military, then the fast processing of your petition is truly a mysterious gift that you should feel very fortunate for having received. But, in any case, the point is not to predict craziest outlier processing time; it is to predict the processing time for the average case. And I believe it does that well enough, given the limitations I explicitly enumerated in the OP.

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Thanks for sharing the calculator with us. IMO it's much more useful than the vj processing estimates. Since the calculator assumes petitions are processed in order how does it account for the remaining July filers? Is there no way the calculator can provide lets say an April, May, etc date corresponding to the month completions start to pick up? I have been tracking vj approvals against actual CSC competions. My data goes back to June of 2012 up to present. I don't have February and March actual completions but February completions should be worse than January and March completions should actualy be better than January. In fact March completions were on pace to better November completions until the CSC "crapper" overflowed!

Our K1 Timeline

August 31, 2012 ...........NOA1
April 19, 2013................NOA2

May 2, 2013...................MNL # Available

June 3, 2013..................Interview

June 18, 2013................POE Dallas

AOS Timeline

July 26, 2013.................NOA I-485

August 27, 2013............Biometrics

September 5, 2013.......Notice of Interview date (October 15)

September 30, 2013.....EAD/AP Combo card in hand.

October 15, 2013..........AOS Interview

October 22, 2013..........AOS Approved & Green Card Production Ordered

November 1, 2013........Green Card in hand!

ROC Timeline

August 12, 2015............NOA

August 31, 2015............Biometrics

March 7, 2016...............Card Production Ordered

March 11, 2016.............I55 Stamp

March 12, 2016.............Green Card in hand!

Citizenship Timeline

March 6, 2017...............NOA

March 27, 2017.............Biometrics

June 20, 2018...…………..Interview

July 13,  2018...…………..Oath Ceremony

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: South Korea
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Thanks for sharing the calculator with us. IMO it's much more useful than the vj processing estimates. Since the calculator assumes petitions are processed in order how does it account for the remaining July filers? Is there no way the calculator can provide lets say an April, May, etc date corresponding to the month completions start to pick up? I have been tracking vj approvals against actual CSC competions. My data goes back to June of 2012 up to present. I don't have February and March actual completions but February completions should be worse than January and March completions should actualy be better than January. In fact March completions were on pace to better November completions until the CSC "crapper" overflowed!

The July filers can be remaining under either one or a combination of the following two scenarios:

1. The completion per month in February and/or March were lower than that of January. I assume that the January rate continued because that seems like a "safe" assumption given how low it already is compared to the 2 year average rate, but I believe I am being conservative on that front. I assume at least one of those two months (if not both) was significantly slower than January, which would mean that many July petitions would still be pending if I could reliably factor that into my model. Unfortunately, however, I do not really have a solid basis for any other number in particular, so I've just conservatively stayed with the January rate.

2. Many of the remaining July petitions are outliers that are taking, on average, longer that the typical petition. Given the volume that appears to be remaining from July, however, I would discount this is as being a terribly persuasive explanation over all, but it does likely explain a few of the outstanding July petitions.

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