2 differnent countries and filing 8 years after birth

[mai95 4]

Here's a tough one, I hope someone can help me on before I have to get a lawyer.

My child was born in Japan, (8 years ago), now lives and citizen of Philippines (will never go back to Japan).

A report of bith was never done in an US embassy in Japan.

I was in Japan with U.S military, and I am a US citizen from my birth. and now reside in the U.S. and have all my life except times I was out of country with the military.

The mother of my child and I were never married and will never marry.

What are the forms I need to fill out?

Where do I start?

I do believe that my name is on the birth cirtificate in Japan.

thanks in advance for any help.

Mai

[biaobiao 40]

i believe you can still file for crba in any us embassy japan or Philippines. you just need to prove the child is really yours. so you might need to be in contact with the mom of your child to have this done.

goodluck

[mai95 4]

We are in contact. So I do have some contact with the mother.

Also, just to put it out there, I am not sure of how this will end up, I am just thinking that it would help my son in the future if and when he would want to come here. Not sure if he will come here and live or not.

[sjr09 155]

First and foremost you need to read this link from USEM since the child resides in the PI and this is where the child/applicant will be interviewed. http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/first-time-report-of-birth-abroad7.html you will need to have or request a BC from Japan and not the PI NSO BC

　

The link will cover the entire process and needed forms to complete the CRBA, and US passport if you wish the child to have at such time of the interview or can be done at a latter date and time, once the child has the CRBA.

One question I do need to ask is do you have the cooperation of the biological mother in this process? You mentioned you don’t know if your last name is on the BC or mentioned how much contact you had/have with the child over the past 8 years, (sounds like you have not acknowledged paternity of the child)

With the cooperation of the biological mother and DNA testing ( IMO with the info you have provided you will be asked by the embassy to provide DNA testing) you can be successful.

[newacct 688]

According to http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html , you also need to 1) agree in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years; and 2) acknowledge paternity of the person in writing under oath.

If the CRBA doesn't work, you can always just apply for a Certificate of Citizenship for the child.

Edited April 7, 2013 by newacct

[sjr09 155]

According to http://travel.state....nship_5199.html , you also need to 1) agree in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years; and 2) acknowledge paternity of the person in writing under oath.

If the CRBA doesn't work, you can always just apply for a Certificate of Citizenship for the child.

The DS-5507 your referring is covered in the first page of the link I provided above, as is all other form needed to complete CRBA.

DS-5507 see page 3 of 5

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/126018.pdf

Your saying the US citizen can file the N-600 for the child if the CRBA doesn't work?

[mai95 4]

First and foremost you need to read this link from USEM since the child resides in the PI and this is where the child/applicant will be interviewed. http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/first-time-report-of-birth-abroad7.html you will need to have or request a BC from Japan and not the PI NSO BC

　

The link will cover the entire process and needed forms to complete the CRBA, and US passport if you wish the child to have at such time of the interview or can be done at a latter date and time, once the child has the CRBA.

One question I do need to ask is do you have the cooperation of the biological mother in this process? You mentioned you don’t know if your last name is on the BC or mentioned how much contact you had/have with the child over the past 8 years, (sounds like you have not acknowledged paternity of the child)

With the cooperation of the biological mother and DNA testing ( IMO with the info you have provided you will be asked by the embassy to provide DNA testing) you can be successful.

I saw the manila embassy website, was not for sure if they would process the CRBA since he was born in Japan.

"Cooperation of biological mother'? I have not talked to her about this yet, first trying to see if it is possible or not.

I was not in Japan at the time of birth, but I did sign some paper work she did send to me not for sure if it was for Japan or Phillippines. Not much after that we had a falling out, but not have started communication again, and I am providing some finicial support now.

Thanks for the help

[mai95 4]

The DS-5507 your referring is covered in the first page of the link I provided above, as is all other form needed to complete CRBA.

DS-5507 see page 3 of 5

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/126018.pdf

Your saying the US citizen can file the N-600 for the child if the CRBA doesn't work?

Thanks (both of you), still more questions.

I thought the CRBA would be the first step for a N-600 Application for Certificate of Citizenship?

For now my thought is just to get him reconized as a US citizen before he ages out or something else happens.

So a CRBA or N-600 I guess would be my real question.

Someone else mentioned DNA, I would be willing to do it so it should not be a problem. I have read part of that process it seems complicated and long?

Thanks again for all the ideals, help and info.

[sjr09 155]

I saw the manila embassy website, was not for sure if they would process the CRBA since he was born in Japan.

"Cooperation of biological mother'? I have not talked to her about this yet, first trying to see if it is possible or not.

I was not in Japan at the time of birth, but I did sign some paper work she did send to me not for sure if it was for Japan or Phillippines. Not much after that we had a falling out, but not have started communication again, and I am providing some finicial support now.

Thanks for the help

Yes cooperation of biological mother with out it you don't have a chance, as she hold all the cards.

Thanks (both of you), still more questions.

I thought the CRBA would be the first step for a N-600 Application for Certificate of Citizenship?

For now my thought is just to get him reconized as a US citizen before he ages out or something else happens.

So a CRBA or N-600 I guess would be my real question.

Someone else mentioned DNA, I would be willing to do it so it should not be a problem. I have read part of that process it seems complicated and long?

Thanks again for all the ideals, help and info.

If you read the qualifying condition for the N-600 you’ll understand your option. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-600instr.pdf

[sjr09 155]

Yes cooperation of biological mother with out it you don't have a chance, as she hold all the cards.

EDIT : The CRBA is not the first step for a N-600 Application for Certificate of Citizenship....... If you read the qualifying condition for the N-600 you'll understand your option. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-600instr.pdf

[mai95 4]

Thanks all for the advice, as far as cooperation of biological mother I don't think that would be a problem. I will ask her.

And as far a other things, when my son was born she(the mother) did send me paperwork to sign, and I found out what it was,

1. Report of Birth, child born abroad of Philippine Parents or Parents.

2. Affidavit of Admission of Paternity (Embassy of the Republic of the Philippines, Tokyo Japan.

I did keep copies of both.

I did sign them and send them to her in Japan, I just wonder if she did file them. If so that will help the case.

It looks like I will just go with the N-600 not a CRBA.

Thanks again

[mai95 4]

Thanks all for the advice, as far as cooperation of biological mother I don't think that would be a problem. I will ask her.

And as far a other things, when my son was born she(the mother) did send me paperwork to sign, and I found out what it was,

1. Report of Birth, child born abroad of Philippine Parents or Parents.

2. Affidavit of Admission of Paternity (Embassy of the Republic of the Philippines, Tokyo Japan.

I did keep copies of both.

I did sign them and send them to her in Japan, I just wonder if she did file them. If so that will help the case.

It looks like I will just go with the N-600 not a CRBA.

Thanks again

Further review of the N-600 states "the child or person apply for citizenship must be in the U.S. so that does not apply to me so it looks like the CRBA is the only option in my situation.

We will see what happens.

[newacct 688]

Further review of the N-600 states "the child or person apply for citizenship must be in the U.S. so that does not apply to me so it looks like the CRBA is the only option in my situation.

We will see what happens.

I think you are misreading it.

[mai95 4]

No, I don't think I am not missreading it, on Page 1 of the instructions Who should file this form Item #4 "You must be living in the United States in the legal custody of your U.S. citizen parent. And also on the right side of that page Who should not file this form, "You are the child of a U.S. citzen parent(s). who regularly resides outside the United States.

So I still think my only option is the CRBA. anyone else see another option? Since my son resides in the Philippines and currently no plans to bring him to the U.S. just wanting to get him declared a U.S. citizen before it is to late.

[sjr09 155]

"So I still think my only option is the CRBA".

Edited April 10, 2013 by sjr09