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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Pakistan
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Greetings,

I had my interview at U.S Embassy, Islamabad on March 20, 2013 and was given a blue sheet under act 221(g) which states that I need to submit the Affidavit of Support (I-864) and supporting documents from a qualified Joint Sponsor.

Back in 2011, my wife was still studying and was only working part-time so did not have enough income.

in June, 2012 she started working and as her tax refund papers show, her annual income is around $10,462 (for 7 months) as it has not been a year since she started working.

The Consul Officer refused to consider the pay stubs from 2012 and only concentrated on the tax refunds from 2011 in which the income was of course not sufficient.

Now, it is definitely not easy to find a Joint Sponsor. The only person who wants to help has made $32,700 as shown on his 2012 tax returns (less than what is required for a household of 5 people). He has claimed 3 dependents for the recent year so including himself and me, it makes a total of 5 people in the household for which the required income is $33,762.

My question is, how do they (the consul officer) look at joint sponsor papers?

Does the joint sponsor need to meet exactly 125% of the poverty guidelines requirement or is the combined income of primary sponsor (the petitioner) and the joint sponsor is considered?

Married: 12/01/2011
USCIS Stage:
I-130 sent: 12/29/2011 NOA1: 01/03/2012 NOA2: 09/24/2012 (Text and website) - 09/28/2012 (In mail) <265 days to approval from NOA1 date>
I-129F sent: 01/14/2012 NOA1: 01/18/2012 NOA2: 09/27/2012 (Withdrawn)
RFE: 08/13/2012 "Proof of Bona Fide marital relationship". (Took them 7 months, 1 week and 4 days to send an RFE).
RFE Responce received by CSC-USCIS on 09/07/2012.
NVC Stage:
NVC Received: 10/09/2012
NVC issued Case #, IIN and BIN: 10/10/2012
IV Package Received at NVC: 12/03/2012

EMBASSY STAGE:
interview March 20, 2013 : results AP (sent in paperwork for co-sponsor received 4-20-2013)

Issued: September 30, 2013

POE: Raleigh-Durham International Airport, NC @ 10-17-2013 (Easy entry, pleasant experience).

Removal of Conditions on Residence:

Filed: August 14, 2015 - VSC

NOA1: 08/19/2015

Date of Decision: 06-03-2013

Letter of Approval received: 06-09-2016

Green Card received: 07-15-2016

Naturlization N-400:

Filed: September 16, 2019

Biometrics: October 9, 2019

Interview: August 24, 2020

Approval: Approved and received Naturalization Certificate same day.

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my understanding of the AOS and joint sponsors is that it is a combined of petitioner and joint sponsor tax returns to show above the 125% poverty level.

co sponsor is someone who will make help to you if need be.

just like me, just in case i need a new AOS i have a co sponsor ready just in case because my tax return last yr only showed about $15,000.00 for the yr 2012 and i have some savings but my co sponsor if needed has over $30,000.00 for his tax return.

they want to make sure that if the person comes, there will be enough resources available for them to live off of instead of living off the government.

i hope this helps and others will correct if i am wrong.

i looked in USCSI website and i stil find only this.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Pakistan
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my understanding of the AOS and joint sponsors is that it is a combined of petitioner and joint sponsor tax returns to show above the 125% poverty level.

co sponsor is someone who will make help to you if need be.

just like me, just in case i need a new AOS i have a co sponsor ready just in case because my tax return last yr only showed about $15,000.00 for the yr 2012 and i have some savings but my co sponsor if needed has over $30,000.00 for his tax return.

they want to make sure that if the person comes, there will be enough resources available for them to live off of instead of living off the government.

i hope this helps and others will correct if i am wrong.

i looked in USCSI website and i stil find only this.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Married: 12/01/2011
USCIS Stage:
I-130 sent: 12/29/2011 NOA1: 01/03/2012 NOA2: 09/24/2012 (Text and website) - 09/28/2012 (In mail) <265 days to approval from NOA1 date>
I-129F sent: 01/14/2012 NOA1: 01/18/2012 NOA2: 09/27/2012 (Withdrawn)
RFE: 08/13/2012 "Proof of Bona Fide marital relationship". (Took them 7 months, 1 week and 4 days to send an RFE).
RFE Responce received by CSC-USCIS on 09/07/2012.
NVC Stage:
NVC Received: 10/09/2012
NVC issued Case #, IIN and BIN: 10/10/2012
IV Package Received at NVC: 12/03/2012

EMBASSY STAGE:
interview March 20, 2013 : results AP (sent in paperwork for co-sponsor received 4-20-2013)

Issued: September 30, 2013

POE: Raleigh-Durham International Airport, NC @ 10-17-2013 (Easy entry, pleasant experience).

Removal of Conditions on Residence:

Filed: August 14, 2015 - VSC

NOA1: 08/19/2015

Date of Decision: 06-03-2013

Letter of Approval received: 06-09-2016

Green Card received: 07-15-2016

Naturlization N-400:

Filed: September 16, 2019

Biometrics: October 9, 2019

Interview: August 24, 2020

Approval: Approved and received Naturalization Certificate same day.

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my understanding of the AOS and joint sponsors is that it is a combined of petitioner and joint sponsor tax returns to show above the 125% poverty level.

co sponsor is someone who will make help to you if need be.

just like me, just in case i need a new AOS i have a co sponsor ready just in case because my tax return last yr only showed about $15,000.00 for the yr 2012 and i have some savings but my co sponsor if needed has over $30,000.00 for his tax return.

they want to make sure that if the person comes, there will be enough resources available for them to live off of instead of living off the government.

i hope this helps and others will correct if i am wrong.

i looked in USCSI website and i stil find only this.

Your understanding is incorrect. A joint sponsor must qualify based on their own household size plus the intending immigrant. Do not include the petitioner in the joint sponsor's household size. Only household members can combine income. For example if the joint sponsor's spouse has an income, they can combine their income to qualify.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Your understanding is incorrect. A joint sponsor must qualify based on their own household size plus the intending immigrant. Do not include the petitioner in the joint sponsor's household size. Only household members can combine income. For example if the joint sponsor's spouse has an income, they can combine their income to qualify.

ok so i am in texas and my cosponsor is in north carolina, how would that work???

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Pakistan
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Your understanding is incorrect. A joint sponsor must qualify based on their own household size plus the intending immigrant. Do not include the petitioner in the joint sponsor's household size. Only household members can combine income. For example if the joint sponsor's spouse has an income, they can combine their income to qualify.

My wife (the petitioner) is in North Carolina and the Joint Sponsor is in California. So in other words, if the joint sponsor has a total household size of 5 (including the principal immigrant) and he/she did not make $33,762 (required income for 5 people), the joint sponsor will not qualify?

Joint Sponsor's annual income is around $1000 short ... Do they leave any room for compassion and consideration?

And since the petitioner and sponsor are not in same household, their income will not be considered as combined?

Edited by Musashii

Married: 12/01/2011
USCIS Stage:
I-130 sent: 12/29/2011 NOA1: 01/03/2012 NOA2: 09/24/2012 (Text and website) - 09/28/2012 (In mail) <265 days to approval from NOA1 date>
I-129F sent: 01/14/2012 NOA1: 01/18/2012 NOA2: 09/27/2012 (Withdrawn)
RFE: 08/13/2012 "Proof of Bona Fide marital relationship". (Took them 7 months, 1 week and 4 days to send an RFE).
RFE Responce received by CSC-USCIS on 09/07/2012.
NVC Stage:
NVC Received: 10/09/2012
NVC issued Case #, IIN and BIN: 10/10/2012
IV Package Received at NVC: 12/03/2012

EMBASSY STAGE:
interview March 20, 2013 : results AP (sent in paperwork for co-sponsor received 4-20-2013)

Issued: September 30, 2013

POE: Raleigh-Durham International Airport, NC @ 10-17-2013 (Easy entry, pleasant experience).

Removal of Conditions on Residence:

Filed: August 14, 2015 - VSC

NOA1: 08/19/2015

Date of Decision: 06-03-2013

Letter of Approval received: 06-09-2016

Green Card received: 07-15-2016

Naturlization N-400:

Filed: September 16, 2019

Biometrics: October 9, 2019

Interview: August 24, 2020

Approval: Approved and received Naturalization Certificate same day.

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ok so i am in texas and my cosponsor is in north carolina, how would that work???

Not an issue. A joint sponsor does not need to live in the same state the intending immigrant will be living in.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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ok so i am in texas and my cosponsor is in north carolina, how would that work???

If your joint sponsor qualifies on their own, they complete the affidavit, provide the supporting documentation and send it to you to send in with yours. If they don't qualify, you find one that does, or you don't proceed.

Do they leave any room for compassion and consideration?

And since the petitioner and sponsor are not in same household, their income will not be considered as combined?

No and no.

You'll help yourself a lot by actually carefully studying the I-864 instructions. When you do, read carefully and interpret literally.

Edited by pushbrk

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

Google Who is Pushbrk?

A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/606646-a-warning-to-green-card-holders-about-voting/

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