Pipeline Leak Should Be the Death Nail to the XL Keystone

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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Gary makes a good point though. Pipelines can explode/rupture/leak, tankers carrying oil can hit icebergs and leak.. there is no clean way to transport oil so as long as we're using it, what difference does it make if a pipeline ruptures? We're going to be cleaning that ####### up somewhere anyway.

A lot of that oil going from midwestern Canada to Gulf will be loaded on tankers anyways. Chances are good a portion of that oil will still end up in China, the question is whether or not some of the oil is actually going to be refined in the US. The US will only buy that oil from Canada, as long as oil stays above the $70 per barrel it costs to produce that oil from tar sands plus delivery charges.

Edited March 31, 2013 by The Patriot

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Gun nutters are pedantic about esoteric things.

Well, I don't have a gun. But I didn't even need one to understand that the esoteric correlation between "nail" and "knell" is different than the esoteric correlation between "clip" and "magazine."

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Well, I don't have a gun. But I didn't even need one to understand that the esoteric correlation between "nail" and "knell" is different than the esoteric correlation between "clip" and "magazine."

But the ignorance correlation is identical

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

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Gary makes a good point though. Pipelines can explode/rupture/leak, tankers carrying oil can hit icebergs and leak.. there is no clean way to transport oil so as long as we're using it, what difference does it make if a pipeline ruptures? We're going to be cleaning that ####### up somewhere anyway.

Better that it leaks in Arkansas

Actually it is easier to clean up and affects a much smaller piece of the environment and much easier to control. Pipelines are the safest way to transport oil and the most energy efficient.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

But the ignorance correlation is identical

Patriot is by no means ignorant. At least he knows the difference between a homonym and a synonym.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Patriot is by no means ignorant. At least he knows the difference between a homonym and a synonym.

Gary doesn't believe in synonyms, no matter how much they are used interchangeably in common parlance.

[himher 634]

a rupture is not a leak, so their leak detection gear was useless.

more on the order of an explosion, albeit a short one.

??Huh??

[^_^ 5,021]

??Huh??

It's the difference between explosive uncontrollable diarrhea and a shart you barely notice (until the odor hits you).

[Boiler 46,277]

Looks like Electric Grid power has its nail in the coffin as well:

[himher 634]

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It's the difference between explosive uncontrollable diarrhea and a shart you barely notice (until the odor hits you).

You're right about one thing. This leak/rupture logic does smell.

a rupture is not a leak No kidding. "OH we had a rupture, which is not a leak. Therefore, the crude oil all over the neighborhood didn't leak from OUR pipeline no sir no way, because we 'ruptured'.."

OR maybe:

As soon as the spill was detected, the pipeline was shut down and isolation valves were closed to prevent further leakage

and the section of the pipeline between the isolation points drained through the rupture (drained, because it couldn't have leaked out, because a rupture is not a leak)

Reckon it coulda happened that way?

Edited April 1, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Clip/magazine...same thing. ####### did you expect?

Pipeline leaks are easier to fix than spilled oil from tankers taking the oil to China.

Of course it's common sense which is so lacking in the left wacko world.

Fact- Oil has to be transported by some means. So does the nuisance left not want us to transport oil ?? How will they drive to their protests.

How could anybody in their right mind say they would much rather have it move by Ship for a greater costs with more damage to the environment. It's not that Leftist wackos are stupid.... well yes it is actually.

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Fact- Oil has to be transported by some means.

Yes.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Fact- Oil has to be transported by some means.

This is true. It is also a fact that oil transport - by whatever means - will never be without accidents. Oil will end up where it is not supposed to end up - as is the case here in Arkansas. Thus, when planning a pipeline, it is irresponsible to plan for it to run across a major aquifer that supplies about 1.5 million people with water. That, however, was the original plan for Keystone XL and one of the main reasons for its delay. Based on opposition from both the Obama administration and the Republican led state government of Nebraska, TransCanada had to change the route of the pipeline away from that aquifer. That was the right thing to do. Had such leakage occurred over that aquifer, there would be a huge impact to the water supply for a huge chunk of the population in Nebraska.

[^_^ 5,021]

This is true. It is also a fact that oil transport - by whatever means - will never be without accidents. Oil will end up where it is not supposed to end up - as is the case here in Arkansas. Thus, when planning a pipeline, it is irresponsible to plan for it to run across a major aquifer that supplies about 1.5 million people with water. That, however, was the original plan for Keystone XL and one of the main reasons for its delay. Based on opposition from both the Obama administration and the Republican led state government of Nebraska, TransCanada had to change the route of the pipeline away from that aquifer. That was the right thing to do. Had such leakage occurred over that aquifer, there would be a huge impact to the water supply for a huge chunk of the population in Nebraska.

Nebraska, who gives a #######.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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Nebraska, who gives a #######.

Nebraskan's?