Gun violence affects everyone

[himher 634]

Yes Gary, we know you value your guns more than any human life. Thanks for the reminder.

No you didn't, you edited the parts you wanted to. I didn't write this article, so how could you fix it?

It was as simple as removing the nonsense and replacing it with the truth, which has been quashed for too long.

The community that demonstrates problems at excessive levels gets targeted. If a community does not want to be targeted then that community should make a decision on a community level as a community to join society and follow the simple rules that comprise a society. That is also simple. It is especially true for a community that has been fawned over and coddled and unbothered for two generations and all of the investment put into that community has come to nothing.

Edited March 31, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

My point was to Run, but it's not really that complicated if you just look at it. When was the last time a person who wasn't black or brown had these issues? Has there ever been a case of a white person being shot 50 times "by accident"? Stop and Frisk in NYC is targeting blacks and browns exclusively: http://www.nyclu.org...frisk-practices

Here is what I don't get. In another post you complained because the police don't go into the black neighborhoods and clean them up. Target the gang bangers etc.

In this post you are complaining because a police campaign is targeting those very same people.

This has always been the case.. The black community screams the police don't do anything, until the do then they cry racism. I have this exact conversation many times with black friends, who admit it.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

It was as simple as removing the nonsense and replacing it with the truth, which has been quashed for too long.

The community that demonstrates problems at excessive levels gets targeted. If a community does not want to be targeted then that community should make a decision on a community level as a community to join society and follow the simple rules that comprise a society. That is also simple. It is especially true for a community that has been fawned over and coddled and unbothered for two generations and all of the investment put into that community has come to nothing.

Glad you got it all figured out, too bad your hatred blinds you. All the article wanted to say was stop yelling black when you have white people killing folks as well. But that doesn't sit well with you. They didn't place blame on anyone else and even highlighted what was wrong in the community, which is what most of us have already outlined in these threads.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Here is what I don't get. In another post you complained because the police don't go into the black neighborhoods and clean them up. Target the gang bangers etc.

In this post you are complaining because a police campaign is targeting those very same people.

This has always been the case.. The black community screams the police don't do anything, until the do then they cry racism. I have this exact conversation many times with black friends, who admit it.

It's because the gang bangers aren't being killed under those circumstances. I've never been stopped in the hood so to speak. I catch it in the nicer parts of town. I've been the victim of police brutality, I've had my lip busted and swollen jaw from being punched in the face. My crime? Walking to a store outside of my neighborhood. My friend who was with me, wasn't so lucky, he had his head busted open with a Mag lite flashlight while trying to talk to the cop who was trying to arrest us.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's because the gang bangers aren't being killed under those circumstances. I've never been stopped in the hood so to speak. I catch it in the nicer parts of town. I've been the victim of police brutality, I've had my lip busted and swollen jaw from being punched in the face. My crime? Walking to a store outside of my neighborhood. My friend who was with me, wasn't so lucky, he had his head busted open with a Mag lite flashlight while trying to talk to the cop who was trying to arrest us.

Guess what.. Some cops are just nasty power mad idiots. Lot more of that going on .

Guess what .. I have had my civil rights denied by a black cop. Wrote me and my Buds a bogus ticket, then stood at the door of city hall and barred us from goin in. Told us he would take us out back and beat us, then shoved us .

[himher 634]

Glad you got it all figured out, too bad your hatred blinds you. All the article wanted to say was stop yelling black when you have white people killing folks as well. But that doesn't sit well with you. They didn't place blame on anyone else and even highlighted what was wrong in the community, which is what most of us have already outlined in these threads.

Eventually you may figure out why you were the "victim of police brutality" and who you owe that to and it dam sure isnt to me or anyone like me or anyone who looks like me.

Next step is to work together to clean it up.

Edited March 31, 2013 by himher

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Eventually you may figure out why you were the "victim of police brutality" and who you owe that to and it dam sure isnt to me or anyone like me or anyone who looks like me.

Next step is to work together to clean it up.

Of course Jimmy Rebel, because we all know, when you screw up, it just affects you, when black people do it, the whole race suffers.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Guess what.. Some cops are just nasty power mad idiots. Lot more of that going on .

Guess what .. I have had my civil rights denied by a black cop. Wrote me and my Buds a bogus ticket, then stood at the door of city hall and barred us from goin in. Told us he would take us out back and beat us, then shoved us .

Sorry you went through that, but watching your friend get almost beat to brain dead because he was asking questions is a tad bit different. Not to mention that blacks as a whole have to deal with police problems no matter what they do. That's the issue, even when you don't break the law, you can't be safe.

[Danno 1,228]

My point was to Run, but it's not really that complicated if you just look at it. When was the last time a person who wasn't black or brown had these issues? Has there ever been a case of a white person being shot 50 times "by accident"? Stop and Frisk in NYC is targeting blacks and browns exclusively: http://www.nyclu.org/issues/racial-justice/stop-and-frisk-practices

NO one is shot fifty times by accident... it's the motivation for the first bullet that is wrong and the rest just follow.

THe only case I know where it was a "accident" was the one where the cop thought he was shooting his tazor and he shot the guy who was struggling on the ground.

Stop and frisk, of course it appears to target Blacks, it also appears to target males, those two demographics commit the most crime.

While I have not looked into it, from what a number of Libs say, it has seriously reduced the number of guns being carried and brought down the murder rate in a big way, but thats not justification enough for you?

[himher 634]

Of course Jimmy Rebel, because we all know, when you screw up, it just affects you, when black people do it, the whole race suffers.

Yes Marvin make yourself aware of realism rather than racism.

When 20% of a community, any community, manages to earn a felony record the whole community suffers. Live with it or not. I know this: This achievement is (definitely) not because "racists" interfere with how the community wants to run itself or go into the community or impose any type of rules or bother people in that community or take anything from that community. Must be something else.

Edited March 31, 2013 by himher

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

NO one is shot fifty times by accident... it's the motivation for the first bullet that is wrong and the rest just follow.

THe only case I know where it was a "accident" was the one where the cop thought he was shooting his tazor and he shot the guy who was struggling on the ground.

Stop and frisk, of course it appears to target Blacks, it also appears to target males, those two demographics commit the most crime.

While I have not looked into it, from what a number of Libs say, it has seriously reduced the number of guns being carried and brought down the murder rate in a big way, but thats not justification enough for you?

Which libs are you talking to? There aren't any numbers of reductions so to speak on the web, and it doesn't appear to target blacks and males. It targets black and latino males, in plain english. Every article, every definition of the practice says this loud and proud: http://www.thenation.com/article/173565/we-were-handcuffing-kids-no-reason-stop-and-frisk-goes-trial# it's the only demographic they go after. Yet where is the reduction in crime? How many guns do they stop from killing innocent people? All I can find are debates whereas they are questioning if it's a practice worth keeping around since more and more lawsuits are coming out of it. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/nypd-stop-and-frisk-search-harlem-student-######-mutt-alvin-harlem_n_1952169.html. And folks wonder why minorities have a negative outlook on the PD.

And it's funny, you have no problem with stop and frisk, but when we start talking about an assault weapons ban, then things get interesting. I know why, of course, because it affects you and those like you. See, no one cares about SAF since it doesn't have an impact of America as a whole. Only minorities are affected, and that's ok because we cause the most crimes according to the police. And while I can't dispute that, they don't SAF in the places where you have a high crime rate. Like Chicago, Detroit, DC. Nope, in NYC it's all the rage, and 99% of the folks they stop are law abiding citizens going to work or school.

So it's ok to trample on the 4th amendment if it saves lives, but not ok to trample on the 2nd, if it could save lives as well?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Which libs are you talking to? There aren't any numbers of reductions so to speak on the web, and it doesn't appear to target blacks and males. It targets black and latino males, in plain english. Every article, every definition of the practice says this loud and proud: http://www.thenation...isk-goes-trial# it's the only demographic they go after. Yet where is the reduction in crime? How many guns do they stop from killing innocent people? All I can find are debates whereas they are questioning if it's a practice worth keeping around since more and more lawsuits are coming out of it. http://www.huffingto...n_1952169.html. And folks wonder why minorities have a negative outlook on the PD.

And it's funny, you have no problem with stop and frisk, but when we start talking about an assault weapons ban, then things get interesting. I know why, of course, because it affects you and those like you. See, no one cares about SAF since it doesn't have an impact of America as a whole. Only minorities are affected, and that's ok because we cause the most crimes according to the police. And while I can't dispute that, they don't SAF in the places where you have a high crime rate. Like Chicago, Detroit, DC. Nope, in NYC it's all the rage, and 99% of the folks they stop are law abiding citizens going to work or school.

So it's ok to trample on the 4th amendment if it saves lives, but not ok to trample on the 2nd, if it could save lives as well?

Funny how that works. Like when Obama got worked up about TM because he had the same skin color as him, but otherwise does not dip into local crime problems. Yes we know how that feels.

[Karee 4,191]

So it's ok to trample on the 4th amendment if it saves lives, but not ok to trample on the 2nd, if it could save lives as well?

Although on the surface, that would seem like a VERY good point, I'm still waiting to see any solid data showing where additional firearm restrictions would reduce crime. In fact, from what I have seen, the opposite seems to be the case. And I don't mean some study from Australia, London, Latvia, or whatever.

Personally I think the stop and frisk thing in NYC is bunch of bull$hit. That shouldn't be allowed anywhere in this country. I think there are a good percentage of cops that take that job because they're on a power trip. Black or white. It sure aint for the money.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Funny how that works. Like when Obama got worked up about TM because he had the same skin color as him, but otherwise does not dip into local crime problems. Yes we know how that feels.

Or like when he went to Sandy Hook Elementary School, or like when he cried when those kids were killed.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes Marvin make yourself aware of realism rather than racism.

When 20% of a community, any community, manages to earn a felony record the whole community suffers. Live with it or not. I know this: This achievement is (definitely) not because "racists" interfere with how the community wants to run itself or go into the community or impose any type of rules or bother people in that community or take anything from that community. Must be something else.

Please stop acting like you give a damn. You've shown your colors already. You've made too many racist comments to try and add anything meaningful to this thread.