Ga. city official arrested in slain baby case

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Only when the killer isn't arrested. In the TM case, the only reason it reached national attention was because GZ wasn't arrested and the facts were too shaky. If people that were killed were treated equally, this problem wouldn't exist.

You don't see any difference in the cases. Really. ? This guy shot a baby in the face for no reason. Gz. Arguably was attacked

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about poverty, the lack of opportunity, the lack of a parental role model, among other things. Whether the gang bangers are black Gangstas, Hispanic Chicanos, or white Rednecks won't change a thing. It's easy to point out the the shooters were black, and the baby was white, but it could have been easily the other way around.

Statistics say you are wrong

[himher 634]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about poverty, the lack of opportunity, the lack of a parental role model, among other things. Whether the gang bangers are black Gangstas, Hispanic Chicanos, or white Rednecks won't change a thing. It's easy to point out the the shooters were black, and the baby was white, but it could have been easily the other way around.

I saw a lot of that overseas (poverty and lack of opportunity). Not much random shooting of and cover-up of shooting babies. Poverty and lack of opportunity must have different effect on people who enjoy and love violence because they enjoy and love hurting other people.

I didnt notice Zimmerman's councilman or any other community leaders interfering with the investigation. I guess only people who get elected by people who love and dance to and sing about violence do that since they represent the values of the community who elects them.

Yes because we know if the murder victim was black and the killer is another race, justice is swift. Oh wait, isn't George Zimmerman still out on bail?

What do you care about this case anyway (other than making sure the baby killers don't get treated badly)

Elkins was also indicted on two counts in a second attempted robbery and shooting that happened 10 days before the baby was slain.

Yeah justice is swift in THAT community

Edited March 30, 2013 by himher

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Thank you. Exactly.

So let me understand lib logic. Gz was all about race but a black person blows a babies face off. And the family and local elected officials who all are black. Try to cover it up. But it has nothing to do with race. You are a flaming hypocrite

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So let me understand lib logic. Gz was all about race but a black person blows a babies face off. And the family and local elected officials who all are black. Try to cover it up. But it has nothing to do with race. You are a flaming hypocrite

I don't think the Zimmerman story was all about race at all. I think it played a part in it, but I don't think it was "all about" race.

I also didn't say THIS story had nothing to do with race either. In fact, I don't think I've made a single comment about any officials covering anything up at all. If I have, please point me to it. The only comment I've made on this story at all has been about the different reactions different murderers get based on their race.

You talk in extremes, for some reason. Whenever you state what other people believe, you're generally incorrect. You think you know based on a comment or two and your imagination does the rest.

[himher 634]

I don't think the Zimmerman story was all about race at all. I think it played a part in it, but I don't think it was "all about" race.

I also didn't say THIS story had nothing to do with race either. In fact, I don't think I've made a single comment about any officials covering anything up at all. If I have, please point me to it. The only comment I've made on this story at all has been about the different reactions different murderers get based on their race.

You talk in extremes, for some reason. Whenever you state what other people believe, you're generally incorrect. You think you know based on a comment or two and your imagination does the rest.

Your earlier post came across as an affirmative action type call to equate the murder of a baby with the killing of a grown kid who turned on and attacked the wrong guy. Perhaps it was not intentional.

Edited March 30, 2013 by himher

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Your earlier post came across as an affirmative action type call to equate the murder of a baby with the killing of a grown kid who turned on and attacked the wrong guy. Perhaps it was not intentional.

I'm not attempting to equate anything. There's nothing you can equate shooting a baby in the face to.

[himher 634]

How are things down there in Alabama?

Glad you asked. I have EXCITING news for you from the state of Alabama! This will make you happy.

Birmingham, Ala.

> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.8 (this is 1,480 per 100,000 compared to the national average of 386.3)

> Population: 213,258

> 2011 murders: 54 (murder rate of 25.4 compared to national average of 4.7)

Birmingham ranks among the top five cities in the U.S. for forcible rape and property crime rates. The city also has among the highest rates of burglary and larceny-theft.

Summary: Civil rights have been achieved in Birmingham, Alabama. The community is now free to live as they wish, govern themselves as they wish, and practice their core community values as they wish.

Do you wish any more reports?

Happy days!

Edited March 30, 2013 by himher

[Harsh_77 718]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about poverty, the lack of opportunity, the lack of a parental role model, among other things. Whether the gang bangers are black Gangstas, Hispanic Chicanos, or white Rednecks won't change a thing. It's easy to point out the the shooters were black, and the baby was white, but it could have been easily the other way around.

Your right gangs are gangs color does not matter but what OP is pointing is if the colors were reverse the whole media circus would had been online.

Obama and his offcials would had been on tv with children in background and he would had been giving speeches about if he would have son would had looked like the kid on and on........

This just shows to ppl who thinks he and his party are so good leaders would only get on tv when it helps him to get re-elected other than that he does not give a #######.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

You sure told the truth there. The only times I have ever been sanctioned here is when I dared to imply anything negative about Islam.

I wasn't joking when I made that statement. If anyone posted the same things about Islam/Muslims as they do about blacks or any other group, they would be suspended in a heartbeat. One of the most intelligent users here quit posting due to the tolerance of hate, prejudice and racism that is allowed. He happens to be Jewish, and it is ok to bash Jews all you want. Ditto for blacks.

[Danno 1,228]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about poverty, the lack of opportunity, the lack of a parental role model, among other things. Whether the gang bangers are black Gangstas, Hispanic Chicanos, or white Rednecks won't change a thing. It's easy to point out the the shooters were black, and the baby was white, but it could have been easily the other way around.

And thats because white people are killing blacks at the same ratios... right?

Look, the fact is -Race does matter and it matter to everyone, when the villain is White.

I mean do we ever hear one sentence about Slavery in America without indicting whites?..... Even though the first slave owner and many other slave owners were Black.

and even though Blacks were doing a pretty good job of supplying slaves. No. It's whites who are guilty because they were the predominate player in slavery right?

Well lets look at this murder situation and see if we can draw the same standard here.

About 54% of all murdered victims are Black and nearly everyone of those deaths were at the hand of Blacks (not to mention the number of whites killed by Blacks)

Yet Blacks are only 13% of the population.

In fact when it comes to murder statistics ..... The spread between black and white is as great as it is for Men to women.

So in round numbers Blacks are 7 times more likely to kill.

To try to explain it away on poverty and "lack of opportunity" is pathetic....and only attempts to pass the blame onto me, for not supporting more of those magic "programs" which will fix the problem.

So even when it is not about race (like trayvon martin) it IS about race and a lot of white people are getting tired of it and so there is going to be push-back... deal with it.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It has nothing to do with race. It's about poverty, the lack of opportunity, the lack of a parental role model, among other things. Whether the gang bangers are black Gangstas, Hispanic Chicanos, or white Rednecks won't change a thing. It's easy to point out the the shooters were black, and the baby was white, but it could have been easily the other way around.

White Redneck gangbangers? Can you post a link to something about this curious breed?

Right, so let's ban the ownership of detachable magazines holding more than 10 cartridges. That will fix the crime problem!

Imagine if the city council in Florida was doing this to protect George Zimmerman. Where is the lineup of the usual suspects here in this forum demanding "justice"?

Edited March 30, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Trayvon attacked GZ from behind and tried to beat him to death. Trayvon was not the linnocent little 14 year old media darling. He was a juvinle delquient with a histroy of scholl problems including drugs and theft. NOW and hear me clear. I am not saying GZ acted appropriately either. There is a lot of shades of gray in this case, however there is no shades of gray in walking up to a baby in a stroller and blowing it's face off , then having elected black officials trying to cover for you.

All I am saying is that if the shooter had been white and the baby black and it was white families and white elected offcials trying to cover for him, the FBI, Justice dept, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, would be in town and more than likely Obama would be making a speech. There would mass protest all over the country and it would be the lead story on CNN every 10 mins. There is a massive double standard in this country.

he crossed a line.. feel better now.

And that is all I am trying to say is there is a huge double standard. Why is race soooo unimportant now, but in the GZ case that is all we could talk about.

Who is yall ? I don't bounce.. Although I am a fan of Tupac.

You sure told the truth there. The only times I have ever been sanctioned here is when I dared to imply anything negative about Islam.

The reason race isn't important in this case is because the baby wasn't targeted for his/her skin color. It was a horrible crime, there was no reason to play the race card.

As far as TM/GZ, I used that example since you said that if the roles were reversed, Obama would put us under martial law, please. Check the link I posted about black youths getting killed by white police under shady circumstances, none of those cops are in jail. The one kid was shot 41 times, no gun was found on him. Talk about double standard. Last black person who got away with it was OJ Simpson(yes I know he did it).

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

LOL glad someone besides me recognized that COMPLETE LIBERAL ABSURDITY> Do they really think when a white kid goes on a killing rampage I should also ask if he is a crip/blood style gang banger raised by a welfare mom who adores violent rap music. How stupid is that.

If 20 prostitutes get strangled over a 3 year period, am I going to think it's a young black kid.. NOOOO It's not racism it's common sense.

Why is that stupid? Because white kids don't listen to rap musc? Because white kids don't join gangs? I've met quite a couple over the years, claiming to be crips and bloods, so watch with the generalizations.

Hell look at this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem but I guess there is always an exception to the rule.

You think black folks go around strangling prostitutes? Well here are some who have killed several and guess what, none of them are black.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutcliffe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Ridgway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Rifkin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wright_(serial_killer)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's so funny how we catch a bad rap for every single thing we do, but when white folks are the majority of spree killers, mass murderers, and some other horrendous crimes, no one ever bothers to profile them.

[Karee 4,190]

Why is that stupid? Because white kids don't listen to rap musc? Because white kids don't join gangs? I've met quite a couple over the years, claiming to be crips and bloods, so watch with the generalizations.

Hell look at this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem but I guess there is always an exception to the rule.

You think black folks go around strangling prostitutes? Well here are some who have killed several and guess what, none of them are black.

http://en.wikipedia....Peter_Sutcliffe

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Gary_Ridgway

http://en.wikipedia....i/Robert_Hansen

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Joel_Rifkin

http://en.wikipedia..../Robert_Pickton

http://en.wikipedia...._(serial_killer)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's so funny how we catch a bad rap for every single thing we do, but when white folks are the majority of spree killers, mass murderers, and some other horrendous crimes, no one ever bothers to profile them.

I think he was saying that black folks DONT go around strangling prostitutes. I may be wrong though.