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I am against any form of Government recognized Marriage. If the Govt want to grant benfits to people who enter a civil Union than so be it. What they do in the bedroom is nobodies business. Not mine, not yours, ot the governments

Let churches define Marriage however they wish. If you are a Southern Batptist and you do not wish to personally recognize two gays married in the Unitarian church, then by all means feel that way. Just protect them equally under the law.

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I am against any form of Government recognized Marriage. If the Govt want to grant benfits to people who enter a civil Union than so be it. What they do in the bedroom is nobodies business. Not mine, not yours, ot the governments

Let churches define Marriage however they wish. If you are a Southern Batptist and you do not wish to personally recognize two gays married in the Unitarian church, then by all means feel that way. Just protect them equally under the law.

Whenever I hear this impulse expressed, I always ask..... what country can we look to so that we might see how this system works?

I know of no place in which there is not some Authority which controls marriage.

It certainly is not a novel idea and surely there are places where it was tried.

Hubris is sketching something on paper and then swearing it works.

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I am against any form of Government recognized Marriage. If the Govt want to grant benfits to people who enter a civil Union than so be it. What they do in the bedroom is nobodies business. Not mine, not yours, ot the governments

Let churches define Marriage however they wish. If you are a Southern Batptist and you do not wish to personally recognize two gays married in the Unitarian church, then by all means feel that way. Just protect them equally under the law.

And on this I have to agree with you! Well said. :thumbs:

(and seeing that Danno has the opposite point of view helps to confirm to me the correctness of this position! :lol: )

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Anybody can get married in any of the 50 US states, straight people as well as gay ones. Any and all of them have to get married to a member of the opposite sex, however. Neither a straight nor a gay person is allowed to get married to a person of the same sex, so there is no discrimination going on here. Many gays are happily married, politicians as well as celebrities. Just think of John Travolta or Tom Cruise. What they do outside their marriage is nobody's business.

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So the laws that forbade inter-racial marriage were also non-discriminatory? After all, anyone could marry, it just had to be a member of the same race!

Sorry, your argument FAILS! :yes:

When they were trying to push through an same sex marriage ban amendment in my state, I signed up to vote against it. While I was signing up, they asked me why I was against it, I told him because a bit over 50 years ago there were laws against my wife and I being married to, and their turn had come. The guy was totally clueless that there used to be laws against people of different races marrying, as if the entire thought was inconceivable. I expect in another 50 years the thought that we had laws against same sex marriage will be just as inconceivable to people. There's really no need to argue with those that think these marriage ban laws should be in place, based on their religion. They're the same type of people and mentality that wanted the race bans in place. They survived that, they'll survive this one and probably deny they ever supported the ban years from now.

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Anybody can get married in any of the 50 US states, straight people as well as gay ones. Any and all of them have to get married to a member of the opposite sex, however. Neither a straight nor a gay person is allowed to get married to a person of the same sex, so there is no discrimination going on here. Many gays are happily married, politicians as well as celebrities. Just think of John Travolta or Tom Cruise. What they do outside their marriage is nobody's business.

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read.

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Anybody can get married in any of the 50 US states, straight people as well as gay ones. Any and all of them have to get married to a member of the opposite sex, however. Neither a straight nor a gay person is allowed to get married to a person of the same sex, so there is no discrimination going on here. Many gays are happily married, politicians as well as celebrities. Just think of John Travolta or Tom Cruise. What they do outside their marriage is nobody's business.

Following that line of thought, we must remind ourselves that at some point in the not-too-distant past, in the US, anybody could vote, as long as they were white and male, ergo there was no discrimination going on there either.

What still strikes me as very odd is that nobody seems to care about the divorce laws in this country. So many people seem to be concerned about the marriage of others, all the while, being perfectly OK with the divorce rate being around 50%. Until the anti-marriage folks align themselves and decry divorce with the same feigned outrage with which they decry same-sex marriage, they argument can only be considered baloney.

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