Newton School Shooter Was An NRA Member

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I guess I was thinking of the two in the summer of 2010. There were deaths then.

There were 7 incidents in China in 2010 - six in the spring and one in the summer. The total death toll of all these crimes and the two committed in 2011 and 2012 combined is still short of what was accomplished in Newtown by a single gunman with a single AR-15 assault rifle. An AR-15 is a much deadlier weapon than a knife. I guess that's why combat troops are deployed with firearms rather than steak knives.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

And yet people don't do that.

In 2001 a man killed 8 kids and injured many more with a knife. You do know the deadliest mass murder in USA history was a bomb right ?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You do know the deadliest mass murder in USA history was a bomb right ?

I thought they were called airplanes. But what do I know? Hey, I traveled in bomb recently. Cool.

The deadliest mass murder perpetrated in a school was indeed a bomb - the Bath School disaster. 1927.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The good news is there will be no assault weapons ban.

I've heard that line of argument before on another issue. What was it? Oh yeah, healthcare reform. Not happening either. Guaranteed.

[Danno 1,228]

There were 7 incidents in China in 2010 - six in the spring and one in the summer. The total death toll of all these crimes and the two committed in 2011 and 2012 combined is still short of what was accomplished in Newtown by a single gunman with a single AR-15 assault rifle. An AR-15 is a much deadlier weapon than a knife. I guess that's why combat troops are deployed with firearms rather than steak knives.

Yeah and then on the other hand ...

What happened in Rwanda?

How many dead with people killing at leisure?

[lostinblue 1,989]

There were 7 incidents in China in 2010 - six in the spring and one in the summer. The total death toll of all these crimes and the two committed in 2011 and 2012 combined is still short of what was accomplished in Newtown by a single gunman with a single AR-15 assault rifle. An AR-15 is a much deadlier weapon than a knife. I guess that's why combat troops are deployed with firearms rather than steak knives.

No active military uses an AR15

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Arsenal not required.

Think about how long five minutes actually is and then imagine a person with a simple machete in a room full of first graders.

How long with it take to butcher thirty kids?

Now suppose instead of a cutting instrument suppose he used a fertilizer bomb or home made fragmentation bombs.

Look this is not 1950 any more, for whatever reason we are producing more of what used to be very rare.... Nuts hellbent for murder.

Face this reality and provide a means of resistance. Because 5 minutes is an eternity.

The article explained he amassed an arsenal of weapons and explained what he used. Not a machete, not a fertilizer bomb. These are diversionary lines of discussion about weapons not discussed in the article. The point is the amount of carnage is striking in the time it did take even compared to the other items and instances mentioned. If he'd taken more time with the weapon(s) he did have he'd have certainly done worse given the targets.

The response to this incident on a national level was pure shock, horror and then a grieving nation. I haven't forgotten the national tragedy that did occur that day by a young 20 year old boy with his mother's Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle.

What I don't understand is how in cases where someone takes a failed shoe bomb or a failed underwear bomb on an airplane the entire nation is thus federally required to take their shoes off and get full body scans or a pat down in airports, but when someone takes an assault rifle into an elementary school and massacres six adult staff members and twenty children nothing really changes. This isn't even the first incident of mass gun violence in schools in our nation.

After this the response has been more guns are need. Good guys need guns to fight bad guys with guns. Arm the teachers and administrators with gun because that makes sense right? Schools are a battle field? The entire nation is a battle field at any point? How many educators are going to be turning away from the profession because now they're required to fight bad guys with guns? They're making

now and child size body armor after this incident. It's the same material worn by soldiers. It's ludicrousness.

Isn't it enough to wish for peace of mind and a peaceful place for our children to be educated instead of having to train for active shooter situations these days? They're not training for machete or fertilizer bomb attacks or dressing for protection from them either.

Edited March 29, 2013 by Dr. A ♥ O

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Yeah and then on the other hand ...

What happened in Rwanda?

How many dead with people killing at leisure?

Don't you mean demonstrating that the old 'more guns, less crime' gambit doesn't work? Excellent point Danno!

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I believe the intent of this thread was to try and link the boy to the NRA which thus far seems debunked....

Well at least plausibly denied. If you can't trust the NRA who can you trust?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I believe the intent of this thread was to try and link the boy to the NRA which thus far seems debunked....

My reply was to Danno's comment on my comment. As for the OP linking Lanza to the NRA or not - I don't understand why that's relevant or not relevant. It seems irrelevant.

[himher 634]

The same level of joy you felt learning Lanza was a fellow NRA member?

I don't think he was a member. Maybe you guys should re-check?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I don't think he was a member. Maybe you guys should re-check?

I'm suspicious the reports got it wrong and that even if it were true that Adam Lanza hardly reflects the average NRA member. But they are some fun son's of beeyoches to pick on!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No active military uses an AR15

[Penny Lane 8,159]

In 2001 a man killed 8 kids and injured many more with a knife. You do know the deadliest mass murder in USA history was a bomb right ?

Since someone has already responded to this, I'll ask my previous question again. Why was my comment about shooting his way in LOL worthy? Do you have conflicting info?

[lostinblue 1,989]

•AR-15-style rifles look like military rifles, such as the M-16, but function like other semi-automatic civilian sporting firearms, firing only one round with each pull of the trigger.