The Dream Act

[Boiler 45,510]

Exactly, a large part of the reason we had the problems we did was DACA and the workload redistribution in USCIS, first of I-130s from CSC and VSC to NBC and then out to the field offices. The field offices had not been trained on how to handle standalone I-130s and many of them were so swamped that they have yet to adjudicate cases from August. It is a bit of a nightmare, in my opinion, and one that could have been solved by giving USCIS time to prepare instead of pandering to votes.

Votes were important, it was election time.

[Boiler 45,510]

Okay so, the people benefiting from the Dream act are not criminals. We agree on that right? Their parents may be, but the children themselves are not. You cannot convict a child of this crime, they're innocent. They didn't choose for their parents to bring them to the USA and stay here illegally. Should their parents have been kicked out a long time ago? Yes I agree with you there. Should they have done it the legal way? Yes they should have but they didn't. You cannot change the past. Should perhaps their parents still be deported? Perhaps yes, they should. But then the government is separating a family. Hrm... Makes you think does it not? Or do you already have the answer?

They now have data to track down the child smugglers and deal with them, I am going to guess this would be a Felony.

Edited March 25, 2013 by Boiler

[Gosia & Tito 199]

At this moment, and last week, and last month, and the month before.....and the month before that...pretty much to around october. Quite a long batch if you ask me.

Everybody is impacted, there is no question about it, but instead of blaming DACA, 'illegals', etc; How about going to the real root cause: The representatives of Congress that can not even freaking agree on a budget because of their partisan reasons. But we sort of have a handle on that, it's called election. So next time you vote -because you do vote, right? check who supports or not an immigration reform (and I'm not advocating neither, it is up to each one to decide what's best); check who actually does work in your favor, as oppose to a lobby or to a given interest. And when your spouse becomes a citizen, there is another vote.

Given the numbers of people in this forum, plus a potential double (spouses), and the general lack of participation of the general public, I would submit that we here can make changes happen, not tomorrow, but in the not very distant future.

As for now, everyone here can let their own representative know what they think (one way or another). If you feel impacted unfavorably, let your representative know; heck, ask your relatives and friends to let them know. Isn't this the way the original Tea Party ended up bringing independence from the Brits?

[IamHannas 7]

In my rightful opinion...The Dream Act was named accordingly, and correctly by the those in power who like so many have said,

"Allowed this to Happen"..even now as we give layoffs to our Border & Customs Agents and wait for it to get worse....much worse.

The Dream Act does nothing more then displace, displease, and destroy the ability for those who follow the immigration laws and processes,..

the ability to understand what the laws and constitution of the U.S. stand for.

While the DACA recipients remain with those they love, and complain that we make it so hard for them to be here,..

I only wish I could be with the one I love as the days go by...over, and over, and over ....and over...into the hundreds of days and months

beyond that which is suppose to be...all thanks to DACA.

For those of us that pay to have children, and health care, and watch it go bankrupt, and be fined if we don't provide it

with the new health care mandates..lets think of those hospitals,clinics and health care facilities now closed due to going bankrupt

as a result of providing Child bearing,health care, and billions of dollars in care to those here illegally, and all the other issues that go with it.

I guess for those of us following "The Law" and paying grandly both in money and time..and we arent with the ones we love....so sad.

Like I said in the beginning..its not their fault as others have said...breaking the law is a way of life for them because we have allowed it,..

and they love America for allowing it..while we could go to jail, and possibly be placed on a permanent ban from Immigration possibilities if we did the same.

So forgive me for not supporting the DACA amendment...and agreeing on it's name.."The Dream Act"

Because Myself.. like every person going thru immigration here on VJ "Legally" can only "Dream" of being with the one I Love..and no ones paying for her,

and providing her the same possibilities allowed those here illegally...and again..I Don't Get To Be With Her While I Wait.. I "Dream" of that day...

God Only Knows When my dream act will be enacted...I believe it is called a "Legal Immigrant Visa" and the days keep on adding up.

But again..I'm just an American who has proudly served my country,and my family actually follows the laws of this country...even if my country allows others not to.

Thanks for letting me vent..it would be a lot easier if I was with my love while we wait...but that's not legal.

Still waiting ..still hoping..

[I & B 273]

Everybody is impacted, there is no question about it, but instead of blaming DACA, 'illegals', etc; How about going to the real root cause: The representatives of Congress that can not even freaking agree on a budget because of their partisan reasons. But we sort of have a handle on that, it's called election. So next time you vote -because you do vote, right? check who supports or not an immigration reform (and I'm not advocating neither, it is up to each one to decide what's best); check who actually does work in your favor, as oppose to a lobby or to a given interest. And when your spouse becomes a citizen, there is another vote.

Given the numbers of people in this forum, plus a potential double (spouses), and the general lack of participation of the general public, I would submit that we here can make changes happen, not tomorrow, but in the not very distant future.

As for now, everyone here can let their own representative know what they think (one way or another). If you feel impacted unfavorably, let your representative know; heck, ask your relatives and friends to let them know. Isn't this the way the original Tea Party ended up bringing independence from the Brits?

DACA's effect on I-129F petitioners is not a result of the current immigration laws; it is the result of the USCIS's intra-agency choices and priorities. And the way the USCIS has executed those choices matters a great deal. DACA application processing is not affecting "everybody"; it is disproportionately affecting I-129F petitioners. Heck, even DACA applicants themselves are having their applications cleared through at a rate (completions per receipts) that far outstrips the rate of I-129F processings. In other words, I-129F petitioners are bearing a bigger part of the burden for the DACA filings than the DACA filers themselves. It's just wrong, no matter how you cut it.

And why is the USCIS acting in such a biased fashion to serve the needs of a single petitioner class (DACA) at the expense of another class (I-129F)? If you don't think it has anything to do with the current administrations' electoral priorities, then I'd love to hear an alternative explanation.

Edited March 26, 2013 by I & B

[Boiler 45,510]

You can not blames USCIS, they do what they are told to by their masters.

[madtownguy 164]

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-gets-prison-time-total-identity-theft-202030353.html this lady didn't use the dream act... she just dreamed up her own

[LizLovesFlor 11]

Not really, unless you equate common sense to speculation.

Common sense would suggest that the more they delay K-1 applications the better off we are. Statistics say 50% of all marriages in the US will end up in divorce. By prolonging the K-1 process they might be able to weed out the weaker relationships out of these 50%. In addition, the longer one has to wait the more one has time to get to know one's fiance/fiancee which may cause a change in one's mind and avoid the countless cases of scam of which we hear about daily. That ought to diminish the time wasted with unnecessary K-1 requests, thus making the process faster for everyone else.

Shirley, I jest.

Agreed 100%

[LizLovesFlor 11]

In my rightful opinion...The Dream Act was named accordingly, and correctly by the those in power who like so many have said,

"Allowed this to Happen"..even now as we give layoffs to our Border & Customs Agents and wait for it to get worse....much worse.

The Dream Act does nothing more then displace, displease, and destroy the ability for those who follow the immigration laws and processes,..

the ability to understand what the laws and constitution of the U.S. stand for.

While the DACA recipients remain with those they love, and complain that we make it so hard for them to be here,..

I only wish I could be with the one I love as the days go by...over, and over, and over ....and over...into the hundreds of days and months

beyond that which is suppose to be...all thanks to DACA.

For those of us that pay to have children, and health care, and watch it go bankrupt, and be fined if we don't provide it

with the new health care mandates..lets think of those hospitals,clinics and health care facilities now closed due to going bankrupt

as a result of providing Child bearing,health care, and billions of dollars in care to those here illegally, and all the other issues that go with it.

I guess for those of us following "The Law" and paying grandly both in money and time..and we arent with the ones we love....so sad.

Like I said in the beginning..its not their fault as others have said...breaking the law is a way of life for them because we have allowed it,..

and they love America for allowing it..while we could go to jail, and possibly be placed on a permanent ban from Immigration possibilities if we did the same.

So forgive me for not supporting the DACA amendment...and agreeing on it's name.."The Dream Act"

Because Myself.. like every person going thru immigration here on VJ "Legally" can only "Dream" of being with the one I Love..and no ones paying for her,

and providing her the same possibilities allowed those here illegally...and again..I Don't Get To Be With Her While I Wait.. I "Dream" of that day...

God Only Knows When my dream act will be enacted...I believe it is called a "Legal Immigrant Visa" and the days keep on adding up.

But again..I'm just an American who has proudly served my country,and my family actually follows the laws of this country...even if my country allows others not to.

Thanks for letting me vent..it would be a lot easier if I was with my love while we wait...but that's not legal.

Still waiting ..still hoping..

How did children immigrating to the U.S. through no fault of their own break any laws again? And, no one said you can't be with your fiancé/spouse while you wait, why don't you go to her country and wait with her? Oh, I forgot, the "right" thing to do is send a person that has grown up in the U.S. to a country they have NO recollection of being in! While your fiancé knows the ins and outs of where she has been born and is not going to die if she doesn't see you this immediate hour like you want, let's just throw these "law breakers" in whatever country they came from and have their whole life change. Please, I see both sides and I agree to an extent on both sides but this....

Edited March 26, 2013 by LizLovesFlor

[Gosia & Tito 199]

DACA's effect on I-129F petitioners is not a result of the current immigration laws; it is the result of the USCIS's intra-agency choices and priorities. And the way the USCIS has executed those choices matters a great deal. DACA application processing is not affecting "everybody"; it is disproportionately affecting I-129F petitioners. Heck, even DACA applicants themselves are having their applications cleared through at a rate (completions per receipts) that far outstrips the rate of I-129F processings. In other words, I-129F petitioners are bearing a bigger part of the burden for the DACA filings than the DACA filers themselves. It's just wrong, no matter how you cut it.

And why is the USCIS acting in such a biased fashion to serve the needs of a single petitioner class (DACA) at the expense of another class (I-129F)? If you don't think it has anything to do with the current administrations' electoral priorities, then I'd love to hear an alternative explanation.

USCIS made a decision to give preference process time to DACA petitions based on resources.(well maybe, I don't know anyone here can actually tell); for all I know, USCIS leadership chose the option that got them in the least trouble; in this case K-1s. Don't blame USCIS for being dumped the mandate to serve DACA but not the resources to do it. Something had to give, K-1s in this case (as it had been proved with the charts, no discussion there).

Don't blame DACA beneficiaries for a fast process that was given to them. Someone decided that would be the case and it was not them. I don't know that USCIS would decide that themselves at least not if that meant the most trouble to them.

When I said all impacted I meant all here, K-1 in many cases.

I never said DACA has nothing to do with electoral priorities, in fact I had said in other threads that there are two major forces dictating things: political and economical. It will always be that way until there is enough transparency that it would be difficult to cover up things.

It is wrong, I agree 100%, but I still say that it is up to us to vote those idiots who make those decisions out of office. Choose your favorite idiot (State rep, Senator, Congress, President, etc) and vote against him/her. Ask your relatives and friends to do so; provide your reasons.

[A and T 82]

I'm very much for the Dream Act, but at the same time those of us paying high fees and waiting for years are really getting screwed.

It should be like this.

1. Those that pay, wait, submit documents - approved first and faster

2. Then handle the dreamact people

I have no problem with the idea of the dream act, but i do have issue with the time and cost it takes regular people that are filing documents the legal route

[apple21 953]

Process the legal applications FIRST.

Obama won't be president forever. I hope the next one eliminates the illegals once and for all.

[I & B 273]

USCIS made a decision to give preference process time to DACA petitions based on resources.(well maybe, I don't know anyone here can actually tell); for all I know, USCIS leadership chose the option that got them in the least trouble; in this case K-1s. Don't blame USCIS for being dumped the mandate to serve DACA but not the resources to do it. Something had to give, K-1s in this case (as it had been proved with the charts, no discussion there).

Don't blame DACA beneficiaries for a fast process that was given to them. Someone decided that would be the case and it was not them. I don't know that USCIS would decide that themselves at least not if that meant the most trouble to them.

When I said all impacted I meant all here, K-1 in many cases.

I never said DACA has nothing to do with electoral priorities, in fact I had said in other threads that there are two major forces dictating things: political and economical. It will always be that way until there is enough transparency that it would be difficult to cover up things.

It is wrong, I agree 100%, but I still say that it is up to us to vote those idiots who make those decisions out of office. Choose your favorite idiot (State rep, Senator, Congress, President, etc) and vote against him/her. Ask your relatives and friends to do so; provide your reasons.

I never blamed the DACA beneficiaries. But I do think that the USCIS, to the extent they allow themselves to be unduly influenced by the political considerations of the day, are certainly to blame. And of course I agree that those exerting those political influences are of course to blame. My point was that it's not so simple as who is or who is not for so-called "comprehensive immigration reform."

And, as I've pointed out in my analysis thread, the I-129F processing did not have to give to the extent it did. I-129Fs were singled out and targeted for a slowdown while DACA apps flew through the system at a rate faster than the 2 year average completions per receipts ratio for all applications. I don't see the point of trying to make excuses for this fact. Yes, not everyone at the USCIS has control over their priorities, but someone there does. And we deserve for them to be accountable for that.

Edited March 26, 2013 by I & B

[Cathi 5,748]

Actually that ranter you speak of was a USC (with a Canadian fiancee).

I know he was a USC, that was my point if you read my original post

[Avery Cates 1,141]

This video is about people who were brought to the US as children by their parents, by no choice of their own. As adults they face all kinds of problems trying to integrate into a country they grew up in and the only place they know as home. These are the people who are eligible to apply for residency because of the Dream Act, I say they deserve a chance, just like everyone else. Just to remind you what the Dream Act is: The Dream Act provides conditional permanent residency to certain illegal aliens of good moral character who graduate from U.S. high schools, arrived in the United States as minors, and lived in the country continuously for at least five years prior to the bill's enactment.

Time and time again I see people on this site complain because their petition may be delayed because of Dream Act applicants. It is disgusting to think that people in this country are so self centered that they can't for one single moment imagine what it would be to in their shoes, faced with deportation because of something they had no control over in the first place, being brought here by their parents as young children. I can bet that the majority of people don't actually know what the Dream Act is. So before you whine about how slow your petition is going, and blame it on the so called 'illegals" that caused your so called delay, watch this video and then tell me the few extra weeks you had to wait was in vain. These people deserve a chance to stay, just like your husband/wife/fiance deserves the chance to be reunited with you.

http://www.upworthy....h-school?c=ufb1

if this is in the wrong place please move it for me...thank you

One extra day of waiting is too long.

Despite the sob stories, illegal is illegal, and people who are citizens and/or doing things legally shouldn't in any way be held back or inconvenienced for it. Not for one. Single. Moment.