President Barack Hussein Obama delivers anti-Israel speech - full text is below

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

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Worthy competitors find worthy sponsors.

That the Palestinians have failed to find anything more than support-on-paper and in meaningless UN bodies speaks volumes.

The day they, as a people, mature to the point where they are worthy of their own nation... other countries with interests in the region will start helping in meaningful ways (weapons).

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Again, in the real world when you have a project but do not have the means to carry it forward yourself, you go look for sponsors. And you have to give them a reason to put their resources behind you.

The so-called Palestinian people have failed to do that.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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The so-called Palestinian people have failed to do that.

####### does that mean? Pretend they don't exist and they will go away?

[Karee 4,191]

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Again, in the real world when you have a project but do not have the means to carry it forward yourself, you go look for sponsors. And you have to give them a reason to put their resources behind you.

The so-called Palestinian people have failed to do that.

So by that logic, anything goes as long as you have someone backing you financially and militarily?

[decocker 7,198]

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It's not really the role of any American president to threaten the status quo. You guys are gonna need to come up with your own solution to this. The only American role should be as the guarantor of Israel's existence. Beyond that, you guys can fight it out. Take your time. The world has forever. We'll watch.

american presidents are only expected to lead when going into or instigating a violent conflict.

they are expected to put up and shut up once thoroughly entrenched.

big problem.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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Again, in the real world when you have a project but do not have the means to carry it forward yourself, you go look for sponsors. And you have to give them a reason to put their resources behind you.

The so-called Palestinian people have failed to do that.

They need to hire accredited project managers. Sponsor normally initiate projects, not the other way around.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

They need to hire accredited project managers. Sponsor normally initiate projects, not the other way around.

Apparently, they need to fund a huge foreign lobby to bribe/browbeat American congressmen and women into serving their agenda.

[NCChina 21]

Supporting the right of a people to have their own nation is not "anti" the nation that oppresses their rights. Israel needs America as an ally for protection, as they have no natural allies in the region. But I don't think we should blindly accept the things Israel is doing to the Palestinians. They deserve their own nation just as much as the Israelis do. We can't say we support freedom and democracy and then turn around and support a country that is working to deny a people their self-determination rights. Israel is violating international laws to try to expand their territorial claims... if you look at maps since the state was founded, you will see that they have grabbed more and more Palestinian land. We should not be "anti" anyone, we should be pro-Israel AND pro-Palestine if we truly support freedom and democracy. I for one applaud the President for viewing the situation from both sides and wanting a peaceful and fair solution.