Hillary Clinton announces support for same-sex marriage

[decocker 7,198]

I might agree with that but my earlier comments were not really about my views but rather "whats out there" both across the broad population and with those who study this stuff..... but apparently some people on this board have a very slim circle of friends and even fewer book marks.

and some people don't pay any sort of attention to idiots like james dobson or pat robertson, while some think they're social scientists. go figure.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

and some people don't pay any sort of attention to idiots like james dobson or pat robertson, while some think they're social scientists. go figure.

• Perception is reality.
  
• Expectation is energy.
  
• Behavior is believable.
  

Most people live in a bubble, and don't see anything beyond that, except their own reflections. I recommend large quantities of mind altering drugs to most people.

[Danno 1,228]

Ah, we're going to backpedal and say they aren't YOUR views, just "common" views. I should have expected as much.

Since they aren't your views, then you believe people are either born gay or they're not, right?

Whose views are these? Anyone credible who believes, as you said, that every gay person has a negative influence in their life somewhere? Have a source for that? Like I said, a credible one, please. If this view is so common, surely there are plenty of people who will back it up, right?

I am denying it. Prove it to me, Danno. Show me the findings of these professionals that mention domineering mothers, naughty scouts, bad fathers and bad husbands. Surely those weren't your own words, since these do not reflect YOUR beliefs, correct?

Grass Hopper, how can I teach you with your fingers in your ears?

Your fundamental problem is, people write one thing and you somehow read something else,

The you proceed to debate on what was never even posted, how may I help you?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Grass Hopper, how can I teach you with your fingers in your ears?

Your fundamental problem is, people write one thing and you somehow read something else,

The you proceed to debate on what was never even posted, how may I help you?

Okay, so you have no sources, then?

You're the one who came in here telling everyone what "common assumptions" were about gay people and that professionals actually backed it up. I'm asking for those sources. I didn't know it would be so difficult. Sorry!

You're not answering my question - do you or do you not believe people are born gay? You claimed that the "assumptions" you posted earlier did not reflect your beliefs, so I'm going to assume you believe they are born that way. Excellent.

And I guess you deny the common assumption that -behind every gay man is a domineering mother, or perhaps a naughty Scout master?

These were the findings of professionals in the field of psychology, at least at one time.

Sources, Danno. Sources.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Evylin

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Grass Hopper, how can I teach you with your fingers in your ears?

Your fundamental problem is, people write one thing and you somehow read something else,

The you proceed to debate on what was never even posted, how may I help you?

Goodness, you do write like a condescending hot mess sometimes.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Goodness, you do write like a condescending hot mess sometimes.

It's what he clings to when he doesn't have a logical response. Be condescending and pretend you won the debate anyway! That way, when it's brought up, you can claim victory. Winning!

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I have a feeling this is where it goes quiet again. He's too busy posting why lesbians are drunks.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I have a feeling this is where it goes quiet again. He's too busy posting why lesbians are drunks.

Or fat, I'm still waiting for him to come back to the Repub thread you started.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Or fat, I'm still waiting for him to come back to the Repub thread you started.

Good luck with that.

[Karee 4,190]

I have a feeling this is where it goes quiet again. He's too busy posting why lesbians are drunks.

That's easy. Have you seen some of them? I'm straight and I'd need a 12 pack to hop in the sack with some of them.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Karee

[Penny Lane 8,159]

That's easy. Have you seen some of them? I'm straight and I'd need a 12 pack to hop in the sack with some of them.

That could be said about anybody. Have you seen some of the straight men in this country?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

That could be said about anybody. Have you seen some of the straight men in this country?

We need to start with the total eradication of pleated trousers. It will go so far in helping them.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

*crickets*

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I love VJ. It's like a trip in Mr Peabody's WABAC machine, to a time when gender dimorphism ruled, women knew their place, and a man could catch the ghey from his domineering mother.

OMG I spit Tea.... LOL

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Most people live in a bubble, and don't see anything beyond that, except their own reflections. I recommend large quantities of mind altering drugs to most people.

Is that why I can see all the holes and shades of rust in my own bubble. Mr. Leary was right

Okay, so you have no sources, then?

You're the one who came in here telling everyone what "common assumptions" were about gay people and that professionals actually backed it up. I'm asking for those sources. I didn't know it would be so difficult. Sorry!

You're not answering my question - do you or do you not believe people are born gay? You claimed that the "assumptions" you posted earlier did not reflect your beliefs, so I'm going to assume you believe they are born that way. Excellent.

Sources, Danno. Sources.

Danno feel free to use me as a source.. That will shut them up quick.