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Okay, I have one simple tax question, as I'm doing my daughter's final tax filing in Canada. Her father-in-law is doing her tax filing in the US, even though she had no earnings there as of Dec 31.

I'm doing it through Turbo Tax and of course, on the first page I've entered that as of Dec 31,2012 that she was a non-resident of Canada. Then on another page it asks about address, which we're keeping the mailing addy in Canada in care of myself, but that her place of residence in the US.

So here's where I'm not sure what to put.

It asks this:

I was a non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed resident of Canada because I stayed for 183 days or more in 2012

I was a deemed resident of Canda for other reasons

For most of 2012 she was a resident. Do I just put non-resident or deemed resident and which one would apply??

Anyone who has filed already or done it last year......... what did you put?? I'm hoping to avoid calling again and waiting on the line.

Thanks for any help

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Okay, I have one simple tax question, as I'm doing my daughter's final tax filing in Canada. Her father-in-law is doing her tax filing in the US, even though she had no earnings there as of Dec 31.

I'm doing it through Turbo Tax and of course, on the first page I've entered that as of Dec 31,2012 that she was a non-resident of Canada. Then on another page it asks about address, which we're keeping the mailing addy in Canada in care of myself, but that her place of residence in the US.

So here's where I'm not sure what to put.

It asks this:

I was a non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed resident of Canada because I stayed for 183 days or more in 2012

I was a deemed resident of Canda for other reasons

For most of 2012 she was a resident. Do I just put non-resident or deemed resident and which one would apply??

Anyone who has filed already or done it last year......... what did you put?? I'm hoping to avoid calling again and waiting on the line.

Thanks for any help

Since she was a resident of Canada for the greater part of the 2012 tax year, I believe she is considered a Canadian resident for the entire year for tax purposes. Because I don't have 5 posts under my name I cannot post links to the CRA website pages on this subject. But try going to the CRA website and doing a search for "IT-221R3" which will bring up a tax interpretation bulletin on determining residency status. Hope this helps!

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Thanks for reponding.

Yes, I've checked out that link, but it's seriously sooooo confusing....... and they include so many different variables that it really isn't clear, at least to me.

I've done all of this immigration paperwork for my daughter, right from the beginning of the process, so I'm not ignorant. I can't understand why it's so difficult to find just one simple answer online. Guess I'll be calling :blink:

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If you get an answer, please come back and post your findings. I feel the same way... I'm no dummy. I got through the immigration paperwork just fine, but trying to find information from CRA is like reading a different language!

Good luck!

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If you get an answer, please come back and post your findings. I feel the same way... I'm no dummy. I got through the immigration paperwork just fine, but trying to find information from CRA is like reading a different language!

Good luck!

I spoke with an accountant who does US/Can tax returns, etc....

So apparently we would still click that she's a non-immigrant, but we may not be able to do her taxes with Turbo Tax. It's a fairly simplistic tax program for pretty basic returns. I've had no problems using it for the last 12 years for my home-based business (using unincorporated program) and our very basic personal returns.

The problem is that with her now being a non-resident, it doesn't give the option of still inputting her ON tax information which apparently must be calculated (even though she didn't make enough to owe anything). I'll have to calculate how many days she spent in Canada and pro-rate her ON taxes, etc....

Sooooooo, I'm going to the post office to pick up a paper packet of the return and see if I can figure it out from there, combined with what I'm seeing on Turbo Tax. Since she's a non-resident, we can't e-file anyway......... it has to be mailed.

Sure glad I'll only have to do this once, LOL!!

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Sure glad I'll only have to do this once, LOL!!

Yes, first year of double tax filing was confusing. I am stuck having to file double again this year because I did not close all my Canadian accounts and made interest, which I have to declare and file for as a non resident >.<

I guess I will now transfer most of it to the U.S. and keep a minimal amount of $ in Canada for when we visit.

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Yes, first year of double tax filing was confusing. I am stuck having to file double again this year because I did not close all my Canadian accounts and made interest, which I have to declare and file for as a non resident >.<

I guess I will now transfer most of it to the U.S. and keep a minimal amount of $ in Canada for when we visit.

Oh yikes! Yes, she kept an account still open in Canada, but there's not enough in it that she'll earn enough interest for it to be taxable for next year.

On a much more exciting note, she has her Green Card interview tomorrow morning, so we'll have a nice little break from all of this immigration paperwork for a while :dance:

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Okay, I have one simple tax question, as I'm doing my daughter's final tax filing in Canada. Her father-in-law is doing her tax filing in the US, even though she had no earnings there as of Dec 31.

I'm doing it through Turbo Tax and of course, on the first page I've entered that as of Dec 31,2012 that she was a non-resident of Canada. Then on another page it asks about address, which we're keeping the mailing addy in Canada in care of myself, but that her place of residence in the US.

So here's where I'm not sure what to put.

It asks this:

I was a non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed non-resident of Canada

I was a deemed resident of Canada because I stayed for 183 days or more in 2012

I was a deemed resident of Canda for other reasons

For most of 2012 she was a resident. Do I just put non-resident or deemed resident and which one would apply??

Anyone who has filed already or done it last year......... what did you put?? I'm hoping to avoid calling again and waiting on the line.

Thanks for any help

She would be a deemed resident since she isn't living in a province right now, but she lived in Canada for longer than 183 days.

 

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