Halal meat

[AboSohaila 4]

I am sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone. This is just a discussion. Everyone has a different point of view.

A Gentlewoman named AboSohaila has said that. These are her words

"Just a point for your husband, he can eat the regular meat too, tell him do not stuck on Halal only cuz its more expensive and soetimes hard to find.

also tell ur husband its permissble in Islam to eat regular meat and you say "Bism Allah before you eat and that is t "

Guys are u kidding me? whatever

when i said "he still can eat regular meat and say bismAllah" , it is not my opinion, its scholars opinion, shikh Mohamed Hasan

do not u know that prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was invited to eat at the Jew lady house, he went and ate?

did he say oh u did not say bismAllah when u were slaying the goat so am not eating?

did he (PBUH) or did he not eat from the Jew lady meat ?

why people r acting like big scholars with attitude, i wish u can present ur point without attacking people, wow, really wow

whatever, do not eat any meat O_o

Guys are u kidding me? whatever

when i said "he still can eat regular meat and say bismAllah" , it is not my opinion, its scholars opinion, shikh Mohamed Hasan

do not u know that prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was invited to eat at the Jew lady house, he went and ate?

did he say oh u did not say bismAllah when u were slaying the goat so am not eating?

did he (PBUH) or did he not eat from the Jew lady meat ?

why people r acting like big scholars with attitude, i wish u can present ur point without attacking people, wow, really wow

whatever, do not eat any meat O_o

oh y also i wanna add, God said in surah Al-maeda that the food of the people of the book is halal for us

so plz get ur self educated first before u google and post for us

[MedRoni 161]

Guys are u kidding me? whatever

when i said "he still can eat regular meat and say bismAllah" , it is not my opinion, its scholars opinion, shikh Mohamed Hasan

This shiek is one of many. Many scholars say no, not unless you have no other option.

do not u know that prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was invited to eat at the Jew lady house, he went and ate?

did he say oh u did not say bismAllah when u were slaying the goat so am not eating?

did he (PBUH) or did he not eat from the Jew lady meat ?

Jewish people eat Koscher meat, which is in fact is acceptable, again to some scholars and not others.

why people r acting like big scholars with attitude, i wish u can present ur point without attacking people, wow, really wow

whatever, do not eat any meat O_o

I don't see anyone acting as a scholar with attitude, only pointing out where they are interpreting and getting their beliefs. I do however see an aggressive attitude in your posting.

It really would be nice to see people stop judging and understand we all have our own life to live and whatever is done is between ourselves, and God - if one believes in God. It is not for any of us to judge. We all have a right to voice opinions here, just as you have. We really shouldn't slam on each other for it. Let's keep it nice and civilized.

oh y also i wanna add, God said in surah Al-maeda that the food of the people of the book is halal for us

so plz get ur self educated first before u google and post for us

The Surah you are referring to should be read in it's entirety to get the entire message. Then as said before, it is your personal belief, right for you.

So maybe some people are "educated" enough, and are just sharing what they thought... just like you.

[Will and Mike 0]

why would I "just get something kosher" if I need something halal? It's not the same as halal (umm....different religions)

For many muslims, kosher is not an option, just as I'm sure for many jewish people, halal is also not an option instead of kosher.

As my husband says "EITHER IT'S HALAL OR IT'S NOT" There is no "substitute" for halal and no substitute for Kosher.

I am definitely no expert, but I have a little exposure on this subject. I was under the impression that kosher is actually more strict then halal. For this reason, Jewish people can not eat halal but Muslims eat kosher. Is that incorrect?

Edited March 13, 2013 by Will and Mike

[MedRoni 161]

I am definitely no expert, but I have a little exposure on this subject. I was under the impression that kosher is actually more strict then halal. For this reason, Jewish people can not eat halal but Muslims eat kosher. Is that incorrect?

I also am no expert, but this is my understanding as well. Kosher also has rules about mixing food types, what kinds of animals can and cannot be eaten, etc. But the kosher meat/animals are still killed in the way Muslims have been told can be eaten. Keep in mind this is just my understanding and opinion. I am sure other opinions vary

Edited March 13, 2013 by MedRoni

[sandinista! 1,816]

I am definitely no expert, but I have a little exposure on this subject. I was under the impression that kosher is actually more strict then halal. For this reason, Jewish people can not eat halal but Muslims eat kosher. Is that incorrect?

Many Muslims reject kosher as unacceptable and there are various reasons why many Muslims reject kosher. There are some differences in schechita slaughter and zabihah slaughter, that for some are problematic.

The actual method of death for the animal is virtually the same, but some ritual aspects differ.

[sandinista! 1,816]

Some things are definitely "more strict" in Jewish dietary law- in my Muslim household we love shrimp and tenderloin steak and sturgeon and I know plenty of Jewish people who won't touch those things,, but the ritual differences are what prevent us from eating kosher.

Edited March 13, 2013 by sandinista!

[PuppyLove 24]

I also am no expert, but this is my understanding as well. Kosher also has rules about mixing food types, what kinds of animals can and cannot be eaten, etc. But the kosher meat/animals are still killed in the way Muslims have been told can be eaten. Keep in mind this is just my understanding and opinion. I am sure other opinions vary

I like your argument in all posts that you made :thumbs:

I have the same opinion , Just couldn't put it into words. Not very good at English

[PuppyLove 24]

Guys are u kidding me? whatever

when i said "he still can eat regular meat and say bismAllah" , it is not my opinion, its scholars opinion, shikh Mohamed Hasan

do not u know that prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was invited to eat at the Jew lady house, he went and ate?

did he say oh u did not say bismAllah when u were slaying the goat so am not eating?

did he (PBUH) or did he not eat from the Jew lady meat ?

why people r acting like big scholars with attitude, i wish u can present ur point without attacking people, wow, really wow

whatever, do not eat any meat O_o

oh y also i wanna add, God said in surah Al-maeda that the food of the people of the book is halal for us

so plz get ur self educated first before u google and post for us

With due respect !

I thought you were talking about eating regular meat Kosher meat was not mentioned in your post. Kosher meat maybe ok if halal meat's not available. I am educated about it. Otherwise saying Bismillah before eating regular meat, that came from a viciously killed animal by Machines is not good. It is never allowed or recommended by almost all the scholars.

Have you seen the movie "Food,Inc" ?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286537/

[AboSohaila 4]

sorry if my last post was agressive

thanks and i appraite all ur help

[sandinista! 1,816]

Lots of certified halal brands of chicken, processed and unprocessed, are machine slaughtered in the US. Nor is it rare or uncommon to find absolute approval of this method of slaughter by scholars.

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1363140050[/url]' post='6042384']

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Oh and one more thing, just because you are muslim does not mean you have to find halal places to eat. You mentioed the above places not being Halal ummmm hello you are not in your country and yes muslims can go to any Pizza Hut, Subway, etc. Just because you go out for pizza dosent mean you have to eat pepperoni. Subway has tuna, and I do believe you can eat tuna.

It's true Muslims can go to any restaurant and eat. And yes, even tuna. But honestly I don't want my tuna being prepared with the same things the non-halal turkey or forbidden bacon that sits together in a place like Subway. The above places are not halal, nor forbidden - but it doesn't mean it is an easy choice either.

And the "ummmm hello you are not in your country" - might have come across a little harsh, it made me wince anyway.

Just saying we are here to have a nice topic of conversation - which I believe is WHERE to find HALAL meat! Looks like this could be a nice hot topic on it's own in the correct forum though!

Well it is easier for muslims in their own country, as everything is usually halal and they dont have to think about what they eat or where they eat as they do in America.

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1363165821[/url]' post='6043354']

Lots of certified halal brands of chicken, processed and unprocessed, are machine slaughtered in the US. Nor is it rare or uncommon to find absolute approval of this method of slaughter by scholars.

You know what, the Imam spoke of this at the mosque my husband attends just this past friday he said.

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1363150018[/url]' post='6042670']

Guys are u kidding me? whatever

when i said "he still can eat regular meat and say bismAllah" , it is not my opinion, its scholars opinion, shikh Mohamed Hasan

do not u know that prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was invited to eat at the Jew lady house, he went and ate?

did he say oh u did not say bismAllah when u were slaying the goat so am not eating?

did he (PBUH) or did he not eat from the Jew lady meat ?

why people r acting like big scholars with attitude, i wish u can present ur point without attacking people, wow, really wow

whatever, do not eat any meat O_o

oh y also i wanna add, God said in surah Al-maeda that the food of the people of the book is halal for us

so plz get ur self educated first before u google and post for us

Agree 100%

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1363138862[/url]' post='6042347']

You said "The Imam told him to say Bismiallh before he eats and all will be okay". True you did not use the exact word halal, but the meaning came across the same. That it is ok to eat meat that is not halal. Especially since you referenced a surah.

The main foundations for slaughter agreed to all Muslims.Where you must first label (that is to say the name of God "bismillah") and this is an Islamic duty.God said (and do not eat, which did not mention the name 'God) verse (121) el anaam.

You have to know what is the meaning of halal meat or word halal here first, of the halal requirements of the muslim must be adhered to:

- Slaughter civil and could be a man or a woman

- Routing header carcass towards Qiblah " Muslim Mecca"

- Speech Basmalah before slaughter

- Slaughter a sharp knife.

In this case meat becomes halal, Without this it is not permissible for a Muslim to eat meat. And those who say to you that the name of God "bismillah" enough he is a liar,in the Koran there is 6236 "aya" I defy anyone to come to me and show me where God said the word name of God "bismillah" is enough to eat meat not slaughtered according to Islamic law. This is the truth about eating meat as commanded by the Koran, and who ever wants to eat meat that is not halal for a particular reason or argument or convenience, feel free, but do not say that the name of God "bismillah" is enough. We should not say what God did not say. And the word "bismillah" is used by muslims for alot of things when they start to do something."Bismillah" means: The name of God. Google and type what kind of meat the muslim can eat it or what the Koran said about muslim meat. Salam

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Whatever, you have your opinion and we have ours. I think whoever posted this as a link, couldnt have said it better below. But of course, its always going to be debated as anything is anymore.

All that is slaughtered by the people of the Book (Christians and Jews) in their customary way of slaughtering is lawful to us. We can eat it, sell it and buy it. Allaah Says (what means): {Made lawful to you this day are all kinds of lawful foods. The food of the people of the Book is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them.}[Quran 5:5]

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1363095190[/url]' post='6040791']

Yes

I mean it's hard to eliminate every single thing They use alcohol in medicines too It doesn't mean that we stop taking medicines. We can't avoid that. we don't choose to take those medicines. But we can get Halal meat, not very hard. It's about your intentions.

BTW, for almost every kind of over the counter medicine with alcohol, you can find the same medicine with the same active ingredients WITHOUT alcohol.