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[together4evr 360]

Ok I have a question..? Does the I-864 say that there is a income that it has to meet? I was told that all a co-sponsor had to do was show that they could take care of the beneficiary and themselves. If there is a income limit what is it? As for the bank statement this same person who works with family reunification {immigration specialist}, told me that a 100$ minimum was good to show in the bank. Was she wrong?

I think she is correct. If the immigrant sponsor himself or if a friend is a cosponsor they need 5 times the 125% so that is about 100,000 american dollars. But if it is the american spouse then they only need about 60,000 in the bank if they do not have enough taxable income.

[together4evr 360]

Gaber

Does your family in Egypt own property they can sell? Or have money in the bank they can cash out?

If you sell your properties and cash out your family savings you can send the money to your wife and then she will have enough cash to sponsor you if it adds up to 60,000 in the bank

[Mina90 134]

Ok I have a question..? Does the I-864 say that there is a income that it has to meet? I was told that all a co-sponsor had to do was show that they could take care of the beneficiary and themselves. If there is a income limit what is it? As for the bank statement this same person who works with family reunification {immigration specialist}, told me that a 100$ minimum was good to show in the bank. Was she wrong?

Who told you this? Why would you rely on someone's word rather than reading the INSTRUCTIONS specifically given by USCIS and NVC? I'm giving you the links to read about the I-864 (Poverty Guidelines) and the instructions for I-864. Whoever told you that is highly incorrect. If they are a "immigration specialist", I'd like to see their license or certification because clearly they don't know what they're talking about. If it was just a minimum of $100 in the bank, most people would have no trouble bringing their SO to the US if they can feed all the mouths in the family on $100.

I-864P: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

I-864 Instructions: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864instr.pdf

Read those carefully. Also, the way to read the poverty guideline is you look at what the household size will be and correspond it to the 125% of HHS, unless you are in the Armed Forces, then 100%(including the intending immigrant, for example, if you live by yourself in your own house and are bringing your husband/wife, then the household size is 2 and the minimum income requirement is $18,912). If it's joint sponsor, then they count THEIR household size. For example if they already have a family of 4 and they are sponsoring for your relative, then the household size would be 5 and the income requirement would be $33,762.

Edited March 11, 2013 by Mina90

[Mina90 134]

am need a joint sponsor . my wife tries 2 find a joint sponsor as i -864 p said , we tries to find it from 7 of months ago till now . my wife family are olders and all people others wishes to be a joint sponsor and its ok but them not as i/864 p said . this documents to me its just a routen ruels till can collect and be beside my family , idk what can i says . we are so sad and so worries ,and idk what we do and get that routen document ,jus am wish to find some one good kind person can help me before my case be cansel . am jus have a little time and then my case be canselthanks alot

my wife not have a job and she is income is retired from government , and she is made accident and she is yes got 13k and dont pay the taxes same time yes , and am thought like ur said my bro about 6.000 $ and make a collect of joint sponsor , but embassy at cairo not do it that and not accept that , some one sponsor to me he is retired and his work at marins , and other sponsor i have he is a soldier at army , are that not enough to embassy ??? them make me crazy about that routen and those are jus said sorry we want as i-864 said . so thats mean those are not a collect this 6.000 $ ,, am in bad mood and despair feel and idk what can i do , am so tired of all that

It looks like you and your wife may be aware of the I-864p guidelines. If not, just look at my previous post in this thread with the links I provided. VJ members gave you many different options. Your wife needs to either get back to work and get the income required for her household size or get a joint sponsor. If she can't do either of those, her option is move to Egypt with you. If she made the decision to marry someone from a different country, it's no excuse to say that she can't make some sacrifices now because she has children. Many members on VJ have made great sacrifices to be with their loved ones, so this case is not any different.

I don't clearly understand what you mean when you say "other sponsors" have not been accepted. Were they potential joint sponsors? You have to also be wary that joint sponsors should be able to meet the requirements too, not just any person can joint sponsor without meeting the requirements.

Did you speak to your wife about these options? Did she say anything to you? Can she go back to work and make the amount of income required? Or is she willing to go out and find someone she can trust who can meet the requirements as a joint sponsor? And if she can't do any of those, is she willing to settle down in Egypt with you? After-all,she committed into a marriage, and that too an international marriage, and with it comes many responsibilities and sacrifices. You need to discuss this topic with your wife. You have been given options, the rest is up to you guys.

Edited March 11, 2013 by Mina90

[NikLR 13,232]

People need to remember that the wife would NOT need a job for 19k a year but rather need one for a family of how many in total. A cosponsor would also need to include their family and the beneficiary.

Edited March 11, 2013 by NikiR

[gaber 0]

Who told you this? Why would you rely on someone's word rather than reading the INSTRUCTIONS specifically given by USCIS and NVC? I'm giving you the links to read about the I-864 (Poverty Guidelines) and the instructions for I-864. Whoever told you that is highly incorrect. If they are a "immigration specialist", I'd like to see their license or certification because clearly they don't know what they're talking about. If it was just a minimum of $100 in the bank, most people would have no trouble bringing their SO to the US if they can feed all the mouths in the family on $100.

I-864P: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

I-864 Instructions: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864instr.pdf

Read those carefully. Also, the way to read the poverty guideline is you look at what the household size will be and correspond it to the 125% of HHS, unless you are in the Armed Forces, then 100%(including the intending immigrant, for example, if you live by yourself in your own house and are bringing your husband/wife, then the household size is 2 and the minimum income requirement is $18,912). If it's joint sponsor, then they count THEIR household size. For example if they already have a family of 4 and they are sponsoring for your relative, then the household size would be 5 and the income requirement would be $33,762.

so what about income supposed to be when your have a joint sponsor he is a soldier in military ... and he is single same time . dont have a wife or kids , so what is his income supposed to be till embassy cant refused him to be my joint sponsor

[gaber 0]

Gaber

Does your family in Egypt own property they can sell? Or have money in the bank they can cash out?

If you sell your properties and cash out your family savings you can send the money to your wife and then she will have enough cash to sponsor you if it adds up to 60,000 in the bank

60.000$ in the bank till can be with my wife ,,mmmm i dont have a property to sell my friend . and y i have account in the bank lol but is not 60.000 $ lol .

[gaber 0]

It looks like you and your wife may be aware of the I-864p guidelines. If not, just look at my previous post in this thread with the links I provided. VJ members gave you many different options. Your wife needs to either get back to work and get the income required for her household size or get a joint sponsor. If she can't do either of those, her option is move to Egypt with you. If she made the decision to marry someone from a different country, it's no excuse to say that she can't make some sacrifices now because she has children. Many members on VJ have made great sacrifices to be with their loved ones, so this case is not any different.

I don't clearly understand what you mean when you say "other sponsors" have not been accepted. Were they potential joint sponsors? You have to also be wary that joint sponsors should be able to meet the requirements too, not just any person can joint sponsor without meeting the requirements.

Did you speak to your wife about these options? Did she say anything to you? Can she go back to work and make the amount of income required? Or is she willing to go out and find someone she can trust who can meet the requirements as a joint sponsor? And if she can't do any of those, is she willing to settle down in Egypt with you? After-all,she committed into a marriage, and that too an international marriage, and with it comes many responsibilities and sacrifices. You need to discuss this topic with your wife. You have been given options, the rest is up to you guys.

i appreciate that my bro and am will be

jus am have a question to u guys if ur have a joint sponsor he is a soldier military .. and am saw ur said ( the way to read the poverty guideline is you look at what the household size will be and correspond it to the 125% of HHS, unless you are in the Armed Forces ) so what is the rules talking about soldiers in a military . how much of income supposed to get till be a sponsor ? thank u

[NikLR 13,232]

Look on the guidelines form. It says there. Adobe reader is free, so is foxit if you need a PDF reader on your computer.

[Kolewenoik31 57]

Who told you this? Why would you rely on someone's word rather than reading the INSTRUCTIONS specifically given by USCIS and NVC? I'm giving you the links to read about the I-864 (Poverty Guidelines) and the instructions for I-864. Whoever told you that is highly incorrect. If they are a "immigration specialist", I'd like to see their license or certification because clearly they don't know what they're talking about. If it was just a minimum of $100 in the bank, most people would have no trouble bringing their SO to the US if they can feed all the mouths in the family on $100.

I-864P: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

I-864 Instructions: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864instr.pdf

Read those carefully. Also, the way to read the poverty guideline is you look at what the household size will be and correspond it to the 125% of HHS, unless you are in the Armed Forces, then 100%(including the intending immigrant, for example, if you live by yourself in your own house and are bringing your husband/wife, then the household size is 2 and the minimum income requirement is $18,912). If it's joint sponsor, then they count THEIR household size. For example if they already have a family of 4 and they are sponsoring for your relative, then the household size would be 5 and the income requirement would be $33,762.

Thank you and just to say I did not just take her word for it I listened and have been doing my own research on the side I was just stating what I was told at the time I have sense seen differently. And yes she works for a World Relief family reunification program. Thanks for the clarification though! So just to further clarify does my co-sponsor have to be able to support their household, mine, and my fiancee or just their household and my fiancee?

[Mina90 134]

so what about income supposed to be when your have a joint sponsor he is a soldier in military ... and he is single same time . dont have a wife or kids , so what is his income supposed to be till embassy cant refused him to be my joint sponsor

If your friend that wants to be a joint sponsor is single, is in the armed forces and has no other dependents that means he includes himself and the person he will be sponsoring, which would be 2. Since the household size is 2 and he is in the armed forces, the MINIMUM ANNUAL INCOME REQUIREMENT is $15,130. Which means, he MUST show proof that he is making more than $15,130 yearly to qualify as a joint sponsor. Is your potential joint sponsor making that much? If no, he cannot qualify as a joint sponsor. If yes, you should be able to have him be a joint sponsor.

[Mina90 134]

Thank you and just to say I did not just take her word for it I listened and have been doing my own research on the side I was just stating what I was told at the time I have sense seen differently. And yes she works for a World Relief family reunification program. Thanks for the clarification though! So just to further clarify does my co-sponsor have to be able to support their household, mine, and my fiancee or just their household and my fiancee?

I'm glad you didn't take her word for it and did your own research!

Your co-sponsor only includes THEIR household size, not yours. In other words, just their household and your fiancee will total the household size. I hope that helped answer your question.

[NikLR 13,232]

Just FYI a K1 is a different beast. You fill out an I-134 not an I-864 until the future bride/husband adjust status after marriage.

[Mina90 134]

Just FYI a K1 is a different beast. You fill out an I-134 not an I-864 until the future bride/husband adjust status after marriage.

Yup, good point.

Also noted that some embassies don't accept joint sponsors for K1 visas...

Edited March 12, 2013 by Mina90

[Kolewenoik31 57]

I'm glad you didn't take her word for it and did your own research!

Your co-sponsor only includes THEIR household size, not yours. In other words, just their household and your fiancee will total the household size. I hope that helped answer your question.

Thank you for your clarification!