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Hey guys! So while I wait for my father to fax me some paperwork to finally get my Petition started, I have one more question regarding visitation.

So during this process we want my Canadian Fiance to come to visit me in the states for 4 to 5 months. However since he lives with his parents and currently is jobless, if he's asked for proof of ties to Canada he'll come up rather shorthanded, and we do NOT want him to get denied. What I figured we'd do. Is when my father and grandmother come up to Canada to pick me up and drive me back home, my Fiance's parents would drive him to the POE we'll be crossing. Me and my family will cross no problem, I'm going home after all. But when it comes to him crossing, I figure the easiest thing to do would have him say he's coming down for a vacation/getting away from the Canadian cold. Since many Canadian residents go down to the states during winter time as to not freeze to death XD ( And I live in Oklahoma, so we'll definitely be warm! ) He'll only have 2 suitcases.

If asked any further questions, i.e where he's staying, THEN he'll say he's staying with his fiance, etc. etc. Our biggest worry is the POE officer not believing him when he promises he'll be leaving at the end of his stay. But like I said, that's IF they ask for proof of ties.

Anyway, any advice would be appreciated, thank you!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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*** Thread moved from K-1 Process forum to the Canada regional subforum -- topic not a K-1 process question and is country-specific. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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I think the best thing is to tell the officer the truth. If they find out otherwise - they can deny entry. I heard people get denied for less.

" the easiest thing to do would have him say he's coming down for a vacation/getting away from the Canadian cold....If asked any further questions, i.e where he's staying, THEN he'll say he's staying with his fiance, etc. etc. Our biggest worry is the POE officer not believing him when he promises he'll be leaving at the end of his stay. But like I said, that's IF they ask for proof of ties."

That is two different stories and will NOT fly with the officers. I'm sorry.

He may also need to prove that he has enough money for him to support himself to be there that long as well. Also, a good tie to Canada is having a ticket with a return date, proof of address, visa bill,etc.

I have crossed many times and I'm just going by my experiences. They have all been good, because I told the truth, had return tickets and itineraries, proof of being tied to Canada, etc.

I hope this has been helpful. Good luck!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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If you do a search her eon VJ--you will find a zillion hits on Canadians visiting the USA during the visa process, I mean this question gets asked multiple times a week. All one can do is have the best evidence you can have and hope you get an understanding POE officer. Most visit the USA with no problems, but of course most only stay for shorter periods, the longer one stays, the POE officer MAY ask more questions, may not Never LIE, answer the questions truthfully, it doesn't take them long to figure out whats going on----- But just answer their questions--keep it short and to the point, but do not lie or make them think one is hiding stuff. Denied entry is not a big deal--yes it sucks--but if one gets banned, that is a totally different story!!

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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I agree with Buxi. The moment they discover that the car in front contains the fiancee, and not one of you mentioned it, game over. You need to be completely honest when dealing with CBP. Anything else will get you in a world of trouble. If they discover he's been lying or trying to hide something it's going to be very unpleasant for him in secondary. Your father and grandmother in the car backing up the fact that you're going about things in the right way with the visa will be more helpful than them sitting in a car on the other side waiting to pick him up. He may get denied and he may not. Just be prepared with a backup plan. Lying and telling the truth will be the difference between him being allowed to withdraw his application for this particular entry and him being hit with misrepresentation and barred.

Here is a link on visitation:

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1visit

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Be honest, don't lie. There is no reason to lie. If you get caught lying you're going to be S.O.L. and possibly have challenges with your petition or he could be denied entry for a length of time instead. If they turn him away on this attempt he can always try again right away but provide the ties they're looking for.

Many of us have crossed throughout the process with no problem. I have for 3 years before getting married and then after getting married, crossed just about every other weekend until this past week when we completed our interviews.

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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