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[decocker 7,198]

People pay in to the social security fund for YEARS.

does this info include SSI or social security, or both? you don't have to pay into either in order to receive the benefit - though with social security i believe you have to be married to someone who's paid in.

That's unfair. I think in some examples they are black as well.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

That's unfair. I think in some examples they are black as well.

Also, here is the entire article from the source:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/18/who-receives-benefits-from-the-federal-government-in-six-charts/

Edited March 8, 2013 by Evylin

[Karee 4,191]

does this info include SSI or social security, or both? you don't have to pay into either in order to receive the benefit - though with social security i believe you have to be married to someone who's paid in.

Persons who receive a Social Security benefit check are retired workers, disabled workers, widow/ers of workers, or children of deceased or disabled workers. In all of these cases, a work history is required to build up credits.

ETA:

SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is a form of federal welfare for persons who have disabilities or are elderly. No work history is required to receive SSI.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Karee

[decocker 7,198]

Persons who receive a Social Security benefit check are retired workers, disabled workers, widow/ers of workers, or children of deceased or disabled workers. In all of these cases, a work history is required to build up credits.

yes, but SSI is different, though managed by social security. i was asking if the two were lumped, but i see evylin has posted the whole article..

[Karee 4,191]

yes, but SSI is different, though managed by social security. i was asking if the two were lumped, but i see evylin has posted the whole article..

You got in before my edit. I need to be quicker next time. Although the wife disagrees.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I love it when people lump in Social Security as some kind of government assistance. It's not. People pay in to the social security fund for YEARS. Now if congress would stop borrowing against it, that would be nice.

ETA: That's like saying I'm getting "banking" assistance when I start receiving disbursements from my 401k.

Typical SS recipient gets back everything they put in, plus everything employers put it, within a few years. Considering the life expectancy of someone that reaches retirement age is another 20 years, that works out to be a many-fold return on your investment, as the working population and employers in this country pay for the greater portion of your SSI pension.

Edited March 8, 2013 by The Patriot

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

and who exactly is in the middle class is a hotly debated subject and many notable economist will disagree but go ahead and tell us cause you have if figured out right ?

I hate actually working here, I miss all the good topics

We all know who the middle class is, sorry, but you tend to lean(heavily I might add)on the stereotype of black people being the only ones that recieve gov't assistance. You don't use examples that fit any other demographic(bady daddy is more associated with blacks, blacks are more likely to spend that much money on nails). I know where you live and that might be the norm in your neighborhood and others. But if you want to convey your message without the racial overtones, it would be more effective.

[Karee 4,191]

I hate actually working here, I miss all the good topics

We all know who the middle class is, sorry, but you tend to lean(heavily I might add)on the stereotype of black people being the only ones that recieve gov't assistance. You don't use examples that fit any other demographic(bady daddy is more associated with blacks, blacks are more likely to spend that much money on nails). I know where you live and that might be the norm in your neighborhood and others. But if you want to convey your message without the racial overtones, it would be more effective.

I had to read that a couple times. I thought you were talking about Kip for a second.

[Caryh 5,206]

I love it when people lump in Social Security as some kind of government assistance. It's not. People pay in to the social security fund for YEARS. Now if congress would stop borrowing against it, that would be nice.

ETA: That's like saying I'm getting "banking" assistance when I start receiving disbursements from my 401k.

SS retirement is an entitlement program and is government assistance. It was never a retirement account you paid into, you are paying for those already on the program. It was created because so many old people were impoverished and is welfare. Separating out how you're taxed for this welfare program, does not make it not a welfare program. In reality, we should be including unemployment and corporate welfare in any debate on the merits and can we afford to do this.

Here's a good site that compiled some direct government payment statistics. Some things are shocking, and other things dispel many myths.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

[Karee 4,191]

SS retirement is an entitlement program and is government assistance. It was never a retirement account you paid into, you are paying for those already on the program. It was created because so many old people were impoverished and is welfare. Separating out how you're taxed for this welfare program, does not make it not a welfare program. In reality, we should be including unemployment and corporate welfare in any debate on the merits and can we afford to do this.

Here's a good site that compiled some direct government payment statistics. Some things are shocking, and other things dispel many myths.

http://www.statistic...are-statistics/

So you're telling me that if I don't pay into Social Security for 40 qualifying quarters, I'll still get SS benefits? I'm not talking SSI.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I had to read that a couple times. I thought you were talking about Kip for a second.

In memory of Kip.

[Karee 4,191]

In memory of Kip.

I usually just pour half my 40 into the storm drain when remembering Kip, a la Boyz in the Hood. I know he'd want it that way.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

In memory of Kip.

I think I started the shiny ball thing, but Kip definitely made it his own.

[Caryh 5,206]

So you're telling me that if I don't pay into Social Security for 40 qualifying quarters, I'll still get SS benefits? I'm not talking SSI.

Your wife could pay in. The original recipients of Social security never paid in. The system is now, and has always been classified as an entitlement program. You can attempt to redefine the definition of an entitlement program all you want, I'm sure the government will run right out and change their definition based on your superior knowledge.

Edited March 8, 2013 by Caryh

[Karee 4,191]

Your wife could pay in. The original recipients of Social security never paid in. The system is now, and has always been classified as an entitlement program. You can attempt to redefine the definition of an entitlement program all you want, I'm sure the government will run right out and change their definition based on your superior knowledge.

No need to be d1ckhead. I asked a simple question.