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[Ban Hammer 13,776]

Lemme get this straight. Blue has less law and order. Blue is dark and black is dark so blue resembles black. Because blue resembles black then according to you anyway this has to be the reason that lack of law and order in areas of blue is actually due to black, not blue as stated. Also and since and because blue resembles black then I had to and must really mean black (like HAD TO and MUST such that it JUST CANNOT BE LET GO OF) instead of what what was actually said which was blue. It is your careful study of investigative methods of Law and Order, SVU coupled with your rapier wit and superior discernment that immediately got to the heart of the matter and identified the whole sordid thing and I now stand exposed and yes, you win.

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i've read it 4 times - i'm so lost even my gps can't help me.

[NCChina 21]

Is this like the "you didnt build your business" speech? It sounds a lot like it

Obama NEVER said "you didn't build your business." He correctly said that business owners did not build the roads and bridges they transport goods on, exemplifying the usefulness of government and how the private sector and government are interdependent.

[Karee 4,191]

i've read it 4 times - i'm so lost even my gps can't help me.

Good. I'm not alone then. For awhile I thought I was missing something. Apparently not.

[Karee 4,191]

Obama NEVER said "you didn't build your business." He correctly said that business owners did not build the roads and bridges they transport goods on, exemplifying the usefulness of government and how the private sector and government are interdependent.

You might want to re-read that quote, because he said exactly that:

“Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something—there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own.”

It was taken out of context, but HE DID say it.

[james&olya 1,121]

You might want to re-read that quote, because he said exactly that:

“Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something—there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own.”

It was taken out of context, but HE DID say it.

No, he did not say the part you have bolded. He made a larger statement with the opposite meaning. You cannot record a person and splice the words and phrases together to have them appear to be saying something that they did not. That is lying and potentially libel! For the very same reason you cannot cut off the beginning or end of what a person says in order to deliberately change the overall meaning of their statement!

[Karee 4,191]

No, he did not say the part you have bolded. He made a larger statement with the opposite meaning. You cannot record a person and splice the words and phrases together to have them appear to be saying something that they did not. That is lying and potentially libel! For the very same reason you cannot cut off the beginning or end of what a person says in order to deliberately change the overall meaning of their statement!

Jesus F'ing Christ. Google is your friend. Look it up. He said exactly that. Factcheck.org.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/you-didnt-build-that-uncut-and-unedited/

[james&olya 1,121]

Jesus F'ing Christ. Google is your friend. Look it up. He said exactly that. Factcheck.org.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/you-didnt-build-that-uncut-and-unedited/

Calm down a little, you are going to have a stroke and be needing some Obamacare!

I have watched the video more than once. Some things can be conveyed very clearly through pauses and inflections that do not come through well in a written transcript. This is one of those situations. Obama has impressive verbal skills but he still needs to learn when to keep things a bit more simple and concrete so as not to feed exactly this sort of deliberate distortion by those who obviously are intelligent enough to be aware of their dishonesty. I assume you are both intelligent and honest so the only explanation I can imagine for your opinion here is that you have not actually listened to this statement as actually spoken. Try listening to Obama speaking here and tell me you still believe he was talking about the business rather than the supporting infrastructure and educational system.

[Boiler 46,464]

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Jesus F'ing Christ. Google is your friend. Look it up. He said exactly that. Factcheck.org.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

http://factcheck.org...t-and-unedited/

No it can't be true the messiah did not say it, the recording must be wrong... It was the teleprompters fault

Calm down a little, you are going to have a stroke and be needing some Obamacare!

I have watched the video more than once. Some things can be conveyed very clearly through pauses and inflections that do not come through well in a written transcript. This is one of those situations. Obama has impressive verbal skills but he still needs to learn when to keep things a bit more simple and concrete so as not to feed exactly this sort of deliberate distortion by those who obviously are intelligent enough to be aware of their dishonesty. I assume you are both intelligent and honest so the only explanation I can imagine for your opinion here is that you have not actually listened to this statement as actually spoken. Try listening to Obama speaking here and tell me you still believe he was talking about the business rather than the supporting infrastructure and educational system.

I C He said it but if you watched it in on Video his body language clearly showed he meant something else... There is a river in Egypt.

[Karee 4,191]

Calm down a little, you are going to have a stroke and be needing some Obamacare!

I have watched the video more than once. Some things can be conveyed very clearly through pauses and inflections that do not come through well in a written transcript. This is one of those situations. Obama has impressive verbal skills but he still needs to learn when to keep things a bit more simple and concrete so as not to feed exactly this sort of deliberate distortion by those who obviously are intelligent enough to be aware of their dishonesty. I assume you are both intelligent and honest so the only explanation I can imagine for your opinion here is that you have not actually listened to this statement as actually spoken. Try listening to Obama speaking here and tell me you still believe he was talking about the business rather than the supporting infrastructure and educational system.

So you admit he did say it then? Because in your previous post you were adamant he did not say it. I clearly stated in my first post about this quote that it was taken out of context. You came back and said he didn't say it at all. Now when I prove that he actually did say it, you give us a paragraph of gobbly goook about English speaking techniques.

It's ok to admit you're wrong now and then. No one will hold it against you. At least I wont.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Karee

[Karee 4,191]

This whole conversation reminds me of a story. I lived in a building in downtown Dallas back in the 90s. It was one of those places that had a parking garage, but they wouldn't let you park your own car. They had parking attendants. Since I went in and out everyday, I got to know the guys parking the cars. Almost all of them were slackers, playing cards, listening to music all day. There was this one younger guy that was always the first one to jump up and go get your car. He always turned on the heat when it was cold, or the aircon when it was hot. Even though he had a $hit job, he took some pride in it. The company I worked for was hiring so I went to my boss and I said I know this guy that's a hard worker, but he has no experience. My company ended up hiring him in the telecom field at an entry level position. Pulling cable etc. I haven't talked to him in awhile, but last I heard, he was pretty high up at another telecom company probably making twice what I make now.

So what's the old saying? Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a day, or set a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of life. Maybe that's not it. i think has something to do with fish and fishing.

[decocker 7,198]

So what's the old saying? Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a day, or set a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of life. Maybe that's not it. i think has something to do with fish and fishing.

so the kid was a hard worker but he may have spent countless years in a ####### job if you hadn't put your neck out there for him.

that's the gist of what i was saying (not plotting a marxist power grab) and that's all obama was saying.

please don't set me on fire.

[Ban Hammer 13,776]

So what's the old saying? Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a day, or set a man on fire and keep him warm for the rest of life. Maybe that's not it. i think has something to do with fish and fishing.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Calm down a little, you are going to have a stroke and be needing some Obamacare!

I have watched the video more than once. Some things can be conveyed very clearly through pauses and inflections that do not come through well in a written transcript. This is one of those situations. Obama has impressive verbal skills but he still needs to learn when to keep things a bit more simple and concrete so as not to feed exactly this sort of deliberate distortion by those who obviously are intelligent enough to be aware of their dishonesty. I assume you are both intelligent and honest so the only explanation I can imagine for your opinion here is that you have not actually listened to this statement as actually spoken. Try listening to Obama speaking here and tell me you still believe he was talking about the business rather than the supporting infrastructure and educational system.

Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton. We small business folk all know what Obama meant, just like married men all know what not crossing the barrier with the Presidential member meant.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton. We small business folk all know what Obama meant, just like married men all know what not crossing the barrier with the Presidential member meant.

I think you might have a Clinton obsession.