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[decocker 7,198]

That's what I said. No further need for your answers.

you do realize that was one person's opinion. there are other opinions in existence. hence the debate.

baby steps..

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Thanks for the reference.

Black America's response is also hypocritical, profoundly irrational and infantile. Black America's actions, which shall be referred to as the Jackson Syndrome, on one hand unsoundly gives everyone in the universe a pass to use the n-word, but then when someone outside the Black community uses the word, African Americans have the audacity to become indignant. Truly, something unnatural and abnormal exists when it comes to this scenario; this line of thinking is tantamount to an individual throwing a rock through someone's window, and then when someone throws a rock back into that individual's window, they cannot understand how something of that sort could have come about.

That's what I said. No further need for your answers.

Why Black People Can Use the N-Word: A Perspective

Yeah - that sure sounds like hot debate to me

So I'm guessing you didn't see the one Bill Cosby wrote ranting about the use of the word, or the one where the guy tried to look at both sides of the coin and yet still feels uneasy when he hears it. I have written several pages about my distaste of the word and I posted at least two links that said it shouldn't be used, but you focused on the one that most fits your narrative. Oh well I tried.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

no, it's your interpretation of fact that makes you ignorant.

I did not interpret the facts I just gave them. You saw the percentages . They are what they are

[decocker 7,198]

I did not interpret the facts I just gave them. You saw the percentages . They are what they are

you said "white people have got to realize you can't erase 400 years of oppression in 35 years" while suggesting the bootstrap approach as a remedy. i find that ironic and ignorant.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

you said "white people have got to realize you can't erase 400 years of oppression in 35 years" while suggesting the bootstrap approach as a remedy. i find that ironic and ignorant.

In one of the links I copied for the argument of the N word, I remembered something that one of the writes said. The problem is on one side you have black folks claiming racism is holding them back and yet they are lazy and shiftless, with no work ethic and think they should recieve a hand out. On the other hand you have white people that say all you have to do is work hard and you can achieve but they close doors on many black folks trying to get in through hard work(hence Affirmative Action) which is wrong as well. The solution is somewhere in the middle.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[T]hey are lazy and shiftless, with no work ethic and think they should recieve(sp) a hand out.

Describes the Occupy movement to a 't'.

[decocker 7,198]

In one of the links I copied for the argument of the N word, I remembered something that one of the writes said. The problem is on one side you have black folks claiming racism is holding them back and yet they are lazy and shiftless, with no work ethic and think they should recieve a hand out. On the other hand you have white people that say all you have to do is work hard and you can achieve but they close doors on many black folks trying to get in through hard work(hence Affirmative Action) which is wrong as well. The solution is somewhere in the middle.

i don't believe racism is the catalyst for the continued depravity among inner city youth. the catalyst now is the long entrenched generational poverty & the extremely high incarceration rate/biased drug charge sentencing and penalties. the only solution, imo, is to inject as much money as possible into rebuilding inner cities from the ground up with extreme attention paid to education, living wages, and welfare with the goal of independent living as opposed to sustaining poverty.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

i don't believe racism is the catalyst for the continued depravity among inner city youth. the catalyst now is the long entrenched generational poverty & the extremely high incarceration rate/biased drug charge sentencing and penalties. the only solution, imo, is to inject as much money as possible into rebuilding inner cities from the ground up with extreme attention paid to education, living wages, and welfare with the goal of independent living as opposed to sustaining poverty.

This is also true, black males are subject to longer jail time than their white counterparts for crimes equal and sometimes greater. I think the progress starts from the home, and then the rebuilding can commence.

[decocker 7,198]

I think the progress starts from the home, and then the rebuilding can commence.

In 2007, a disproportionate number of fathers incarcerated in state prison were African American (42%) or Latino (20%). African American (49%) and Latino (28%) men made up a disproportionate share of fathers in federal prison as well (Glaze and Maruschak, 2008).

My link

There can't be substantial progress from the home with numbers like this.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

My link

There can't be substantial progress from the home with numbers like this.

Oh, I'm not arguring your logic, I was just saying it starts at home with discipline and learning right from wrong, if you catch it early enough, you might make better progress. Even though I lived in a middle class home, drugs and alcohol wrecked my household. Guess you can say that I saw first hand what crack can do to a family. It's the sole reason I don't drink or do drugs(becoming a muslim was a piece of cake, a lot of the vices they prohibit I don't do anyway).

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Oh, I'm not arguring your logic, I was just saying it starts at home with discipline and learning right from wrong, if you catch it early enough, you might make better progress. Even though I lived in a middle class home, drugs and alcohol wrecked my household. Guess you can say that I saw first hand what crack can do to a family. It's the sole reason I don't drink or do drugs(becoming a muslim was a piece of cake, a lot of the vices they prohibit I don't do anyway).

I like your attitude - just because your climb is more difficult than everybody else, doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Nietzsche says, "What doesn't kill us makes us stronger." Character comes from adversity.

[decocker 7,198]

Oh, I'm not arguring your logic, I was just saying it starts at home with discipline and learning right from wrong, if you catch it early enough, you might make better progress. Even though I lived in a middle class home, drugs and alcohol wrecked my household. Guess you can say that I saw first hand what crack can do to a family. It's the sole reason I don't drink or do drugs(becoming a muslim was a piece of cake, a lot of the vices they prohibit I don't do anyway).

oh exactly. parental influence is paramount within any economic or racial class. it's just that the cities that get named dropped in the forum quite often for their murder rates, are such a concentrated result of all the components that can destroy a family, i can't see positive change occurring without some major money being used via unified approach to combat the cycle. but no one wants to put money towards what they perceive as simple laziness/sense of entitlement.

[decocker 7,198]

I like your attitude - just because your climb is more difficult than everybody else, doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Nietzsche says, "What doesn't kill us makes us stronger." Character comes from adversity.

expecting a child to develop into an adult capable of rising to challenge of such adversity with nothing but a can do attitude is extremely rare. and it isn't rare out of lack of character but out of the destruction of character. generational poverty is an endless cycle without outside intervention, for the most part.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

generational poverty is an endless cycle without outside intervention, for the most part.

I tend to agree, to this extend. Many disadvantaged communities suffer from the "crab mentality". No amount of outside intervention will overcome that. Rather, the outside effort should be toward more integration of the various demographic groups. Then you have to deal with the inherent resentment of the more affluent groups, that they should have to share with others. The Social Justice movement, of which Obama is the current standard bearer, aggravates that problem, by pitting one group against another, rather than trying to bring all sides together.

[decocker 7,198]

Many disadvantaged communities suffer from the "crab mentality".

what is crab mentality?