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[Karee 4,191]

You and the Patriot have made your distaste for the President known. But I know from your post and talking to both of you it's not racist, that's my point. And then there are some that just hate him no matter what he does.

Maybe the way I posted it, it didn't come across. I think his foreign policy has been really good. I don't have any distaste for the guy personally. I'm no Mitt Romney fan either. I would've liked to have seen someone like the McCain of 2000 be elected president. Someone like that will never get elected in our current political system though.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Maybe the way I posted it, it didn't come across. I think his foreign policy has been really good. I don't have any distaste for the guy personally. I'm no Mitt Romney fan either. I would've liked to have seen someone like the McCain of 2000 be elected president. Someone like that will never get elected in our current political system though.

I would have rather McCain ran than Mitt Romney, he at least ran an honest race against Obama in 2008. He's a straight shooter, and you can't fault him for that. I think Obama is doing what he can with what he was given. I'm not sure anyone could have cleared up this mess any faster.

[Karee 4,191]

I would have rather McCain ran than Mitt Romney, he at least ran an honest race against Obama in 2008. He's a straight shooter, and you can't fault him for that. I think Obama is doing what he can with what he was given. I'm not sure anyone could have cleared up this mess any faster.

The problem is that in order to get the Republican nomination, you have to come across as some kind of gun loving, Muslim hating, bible thumping nut job. Then when the general election rolls around, the Democrat opponent beats him/her over the head with all the policies they were for to win the nomination. Kind of a no win situation.

[himher 634]

I love it when people ADD context to what was and is a speech specifically crafted to promote racial disharmony. I also love it when some dream of a positive, harmonious image of a city gets raised against the ugly and disgusting reality of New Orleans and cities like it.

I did live there. Now I don't. Here is my summary. There is no positive message to counter flight, black or white, away from filth, violence, and gang culture.

Nagin never did a dam thing to make New Orleans safe or thrive for anyone. Ditto elected officials like the DC crackhead, Chicago (51 public corruption convictions annually since 1976), and anywhere else on the earlier mentioned list. Instead he focused on collecting bribes, free trips, and favors. There are no wiki articles that you can pull to spin that one dude.

positive, harmonious image of a city with a predominantly African American population and/or African American political leadership my a$$. New Orleans?

Bringing up that other post will earn you a biology lesson (animals don't come in races) and a follow up discussion about "Pig Newt" Gingrich. You don't really want that do you?

Yes, because you called our Commander in Chief a word that's associated solely with racism, and then claim to not know it. I won't repeat it here since I don't want to violate the TOS. You've shown your colors, and now you try to hide it, don't bother. It explains a lot in your posts.

I love it when people don't use context, here is the definition of Chocolate City since it's so racist to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_City_(album) It was created by George Clinton as a positive message to counter White Flight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

In African American culture, the term chocolate city refers to a positive, harmonious image of a city with a predominantly African American population and/or African American political leadership. The concept originated with radio DJs in Washington D.C. in the early 1970s and was popularized by the band Parliament, who released the album Chocolate City in 1975. The term has been widely used, including by prominent scholar Cornel West in his 1993 book Race Matters and by comedian Chris Rock.

His speech wasn't talking about inclusive blacks living there, New Orleans was predominately a black city for decades before Katrina, his whole point was to make it safe and thrive for the blacks that lived there. There has never been a neighborhood that keeps whites out of it, if you want to live there by all means do. Can you say the same thing for all white neighborhoods that "pick and choose" who can live there. http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/most-racists-states-us.asp

I know there are folks that don't agree with our new President, but their distaste is for the man himself not his skin color, if you care to explain your comment without violating the TOS again, then by all means, I'm listening.

[himher 634]

What I will also do I think, since racial slurs are "so offensive", is cut and paste some currently popular rap song lyrics.

I wanna see if that gets your back up like that post appeared to do.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The problem is that in order to get the Republican nomination, you have to come across as some kind of gun loving, Muslim hating, bible thumping nut job. Then when the general election rolls around, the Democrat opponent beats him/her over the head with all the policies they were for to win the nomination. Kind of a no win situation.

True, this is what's wrong with the Republican party right now. Sad thing is I agree with most of their Ideology as far as money and government go. But when it veers to the far right and the racial animosity comes out(I'm black and a muslim) you know it's going to be trouble. A lot of blacks have the same thought process when it comes to conservative values, but they don't want to reach out and talk to them.

[Karee 4,191]

True, this is what's wrong with the Republican party right now. Sad thing is I agree with most of their Ideology as far as money and government go. But when it veers to the far right and the racial animosity comes out(I'm black and a muslim) you know it's going to be trouble. A lot of blacks have the same thought process when it comes to conservative values, but they don't want to reach out and talk to them.

Let's see what they come up with in 2016. If it's another bible thumping anti-gay/anti-choice candidate, they might as well not waste their money and let Rush Limbaugh run with his own money.

I find it ironic that they claim to be the small government party, yet good ol GW loved spending everyone else's money.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I love it when people ADD context to what was and is a speech specifically crafted to promote racial disharmony. I also love it when some dream of a positive, harmonious image of a city gets raised against the ugly and disgusting reality of New Orleans and cities like it.

I did live there. Now I don't. Here is my summary. There is no positive message to counter flight, black or white, away from filth, violence, and gang culture.

Nagin never did a dam thing to make New Orleans safe or thrive for anyone. Ditto elected officials like the DC crackhead, Chicago (51 public corruption convictions annually since 1976), and anywhere else on the earlier mentioned list. Instead he focused on collecting bribes, free trips, and favors. There are no wiki articles that you can pull to spin that one dude.

positive, harmonious image of a city with a predominantly African American population and/or African American political leadership my a$$. New Orleans?

Bringing up that other post will earn you a biology lesson (animals don't come in races) and a follow up discussion about "Pig Newt" Gingrich. You don't really want that do you?

What I will also do I think, since racial slurs are "so offensive", is cut and paste some currently popular rap song lyrics.

I wanna see if that gets your back up like that post appeared to do.

Ah, the old Rush Limbaugh response, "Since rappers say it I can say it too." Typical, ok let's start with your first post:

I didn't try to defend Nagin, I was putting his message into context since you left that part out. I've lived in DC and I have visited NO a couple of times. But I guess you know so much about since you seem to focus every negative issue and thinking there's nothing to fight for there. And maybe as Karee said, with the Gerrymanding that's why it's like that. There is corruptions in politics, no matter what color you are. And please do share the biology with me, because you could have used any other animal in the book to describe him, why did you pick that one? I could call him a giraffe, he's tall and skinny. Or a hippo, or a peacock, or even a pig. But everyone knows what you used is a racial term, that's why it was removed. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?236674

Now on to your second post:

Let me guess, because I'm black I must listen to rap music right? Wrong, I out grew that mess when it started becoming derogatory and insulting towards women and they started cussing so much a long time ago. I don't even let my work mates and friends say the N word around me, it pisses me off to no end. That way when someone like you says I can fight back knowing I am in the right.

I grew up in the 70's and my dad was in a rock band, so my music of choice was 80's rock, like Sting and the police, Men at work, Culture Club, The Clash. If you weren't so busy trying to put us down and actually read my posts, you'd see I am nothing like what you portray. I don't sag, wear ball caps, cuss, drink alcohol, or any other things I know rattling around in that head of yours. If I did my mom would beat me to death. As I explained before, people like you are the reason I don't get too passionate on this board, the second I do that, I become what you want me to be, an ignorant black man.

[Boiler 46,144]

If you disagree with Obama you are racist.

QED

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

If you disagree with Obama you are racist.

QED

Disagreeing with him doesn't make you a racist. Calling him an animal that has long been associated with racism, asking him to show his birth certificate when no other president in history has to, using terms like tar baby, and screaming you lie in front of Congress, that's racist.

[Karee 4,191]

Ah, the old Rush Limbaugh response, "Since rappers say it I can say it too." Typical, ok let's start with your first post:

I didn't try to defend Nagin, I was putting his message into context since you left that part out. I've lived in DC and I have visited NO a couple of times. But I guess you know so much about since you seem to focus every negative issue and thinking there's nothing to fight for there. And maybe as Karee said, with the Gerrymanding that's why it's like that. There is corruptions in politics, no matter what color you are. And please do share the biology with me, because you could have used any other animal in the book to describe him, why did you pick that one? I could call him a giraffe, he's tall and skinny. Or a hippo, or a peacock, or even a pig. But everyone knows what you used is a racial term, that's why it was removed. http://www.outlookin...cle.aspx?236674

Now on to your second post:

Let me guess, because I'm black I must listen to rap music right? Wrong, I out grew that mess when it started becoming derogatory and insulting towards women and they started cussing so much a long time ago. I don't even let my work mates and friends say the N word around me, it pisses me off to no end. That way when someone like you says I can fight back knowing I am in the right.

I grew up in the 70's and my dad was in a rock band, so my music of choice was 80's rock, like Sting and the police, Men at work, Culture Club, The Clash. If you weren't so busy trying to put us down and actually read my posts, you'd see I am nothing like what you portray. I don't sag, wear ball caps, cuss, drink alcohol, or any other things I know rattling around in that head of yours. If I did my mom would beat me to death. As I explained before, people like you are the reason I don't get too passionate on this board, the second I do that, I become what you want me to be, an ignorant black man.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Disagreeing with him doesn't make you a racist. Calling him an animal that has long been associated with racism, asking him to show his birth certificate when no other president in history has to, using terms like tar baby, and screaming you lie in front of Congress, that's racist.

So calling a President a liar in front of Congress means someone is Racist... So how many Dems and members of the black caucus called Bush a liar.... Bush was called every name in the book for 8 years.. That was a lot of racism

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So calling a President a liar in front of Congress means someone is Racist... So how many Dems and members of the black caucus called Bush a liar.... Bush was called every name in the book for 8 years.. That was a lot of racism

Show me when he was called a liar when he was speaking to the house, show me for all of his blunders, one person that asked to see his college transcripts, show me a reporter that interrupted him(twice) in one interview, show me when he spent this country into debt, bringing us into the recession that we are in right now, one Tea party member before 2009.

[himher 634]

Typical of what? "white people"? If the "N" word is offensive to black people why sing about it? Why use it among themselves in movies?

Racism: When one group prevents another group from using certain words because of their skin color

Giraffes, hippos, peacocks, and pigs dont jump up and down and howl and throw poop when their budgets get cut. Although animals have no specific color or race they do have behavioral characteristics. Moral: Act like the animal you want to be identified with or live with the label. This subject is closed from my side.

I don't know what you listen to. I don't care. I know that many black americans pretend offense to the same words they dance to and I know that's messed up. If that isn't you then you're welcome to remove yourself from that part of the discussion.

If you weren't so busy trying to put us down means this to me: I posted comments on inner city crime rates, votors, and the people they vote for down and you stepped right in and personally identified yourself as having been "put down". Identifying yourself with a topic or group that now you say has nothing to do with you could sure as hell make you look exactly like you now say you aren't. Why is posting a random county map of Mississippi with blue and red counties immediately considered "putting you down"? How the hell was I supposed to know what counties in Mississippi had all the "black people" anyway? But NO....You jumped at the chance to link "black people" and crime didnt you?

I think I may know why. It's because neither one of us has to look it up do we? Its just that you believe that you can say it and it's OK but you also believe that if I say it I'm a racist. That's also messed up. LOL

Let me explain to you some more facts of life sport. You can blame the fact that 13% of the population segment is underrepresented by having only 10% of the representatives until you collapse from exhaustion. The fact is - NO amount of gerrymandering could possibly compete for the fact that 13% of black men have lost their right to vote due to felony convictions and THAT and only THAT is why African-Americans are under-represented.

But we aren't allowed to talk about that either are we?

Ah, the old Rush Limbaugh response, "Since rappers say it I can say it too." Typical, ok let's start with your first post:

I didn't try to defend Nagin, I was putting his message into context since you left that part out. I've lived in DC and I have visited NO a couple of times. But I guess you know so much about since you seem to focus every negative issue and thinking there's nothing to fight for there. And maybe as Karee said, with the Gerrymanding that's why it's like that. There is corruptions in politics, no matter what color you are. And please do share the biology with me, because you could have used any other animal in the book to describe him, why did you pick that one? I could call him a giraffe, he's tall and skinny. Or a hippo, or a peacock, or even a pig. But everyone knows what you used is a racial term, that's why it was removed. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?236674

Now on to your second post:

Let me guess, because I'm black I must listen to rap music right? Wrong, I out grew that mess when it started becoming derogatory and insulting towards women and they started cussing so much a long time ago. I don't even let my work mates and friends say the N word around me, it pisses me off to no end. That way when someone like you says I can fight back knowing I am in the right.

I grew up in the 70's and my dad was in a rock band, so my music of choice was 80's rock, like Sting and the police, Men at work, Culture Club, The Clash. If you weren't so busy trying to put us down and actually read my posts, you'd see I am nothing like what you portray. I don't sag, wear ball caps, cuss, drink alcohol, or any other things I know rattling around in that head of yours. If I did my mom would beat me to death. As I explained before, people like you are the reason I don't get too passionate on this board, the second I do that, I become what you want me to be, an ignorant black man.

Edited March 10, 2013 by himher

[james&olya 1,121]

It's funny how you ask the question in this response, but in your other ones, you blatantly tie crime, violence, and voting for a certain demographic into places like DC, Chicago, Mississippi, and other places that tend to have a large number of minorities. yet you claim not to mention race. Just like in the last thread your comment was removed due to racist comments that everyone saw but you didn't have a problem with it.

No one is arguing that there is violence within urban communities, I have said this many times, hell I come from one of the most dangerous cities in the US and I know that there are many different factors that play into why things are like that. But I know that being a certain color doesn't detonate your actions, but your environment might. And I know that it will take a lot of work to get rid of the crime and poverty that destroys these neighborhood. But your recent posts with calling folks names that don't agree with you and your I'm not a racist but I will say things that insinuate otherwise might not let you see that.

Some people just are not bright enough to understand that a statistical correlation does not speak to causation. You could tell him every way you could imagine, draw him all sorts of pictures to illustrate and yet, in the end, he would still not admit what social scientists have understood for a very long time. The common link is poverty and high unemployment. But trying to convince his type is pointless. As someone once said, "A man convinced against his will remains unconvinced still."