Openly Gay Mayoral Candidate was Beaten, Set On Fire and Thrown Into River

[SMOKE 1,426]

What confused you?

nothing. most altercations end up with one party on fire.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

nothing. most altercations end up with one party on fire.

All I said was that based on what I've read of this story, it seems like it was a personal attack/dispute and I've read that they believe he knew his murderer. Didn't seem like an anti-gay crime from what I've seen.

[SMOKE 1,426]

All I said was that based on what I've read of this story, it seems like it was a personal attack/dispute and I've read that they believe he knew his murderer. Didn't seem like an anti-gay crime from what I've seen.

'Set On Fire' that tells me it was a very personal dispute.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

'Set On Fire' that tells me it was a very personal dispute.

Just that part?

[SMOKE 1,426]

Just that part?

that was enough, i didn't need to look further.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

All I said was that based on what I've read of this story, it seems like it was a personal attack/dispute and I've read that they believe he knew his murderer. Didn't seem like an anti-gay crime from what I've seen.

I just re-read the whole article, I would have to agree with Smoke on this one. I don't disagree with you since it was personal, but this man was beaten, dragged, and set on fire. Whoever did this, wasn't just mad or even hated him, this was pure unfiltered rage.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I just re-read the whole article, I would have to agree with Smoke on this one. I don't disagree with you since it was personal, but this man was beaten, dragged, and set on fire. Whoever did this, wasn't just mad or even hated him, this was pure unfiltered rage.

What? I ... didn't realize I was disagreeing with SMOKE? I was simply saying the articles I've read don't seem to believe this was a random act of violence and that he may possibly have known the guy who did it. That's it, that's all.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

What? I ... didn't realize I was disagreeing with SMOKE? I was simply saying the articles I've read don't seem to believe this was a random act of violence and that he may possibly have known the guy who did it. That's it, that's all.

Oh, sorry for the misconception. I agree, he definitely knew who his attacker was.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Oh, sorry for the misconception. I agree, he definitely knew who his attacker was.

It's all good, I apparently didn't articulate my statement very well.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It's popular, but there are more of them than we know.

No it doesn't, but when over 70% of hate crimes are against blacks, it tells you we have a long way to go.

That's because when a black kills a white or beats him it is never a hate crime, or at least almost never ( yes I know you can Google up an example or three) . Just like the ol' theory that Blacks can't be racist and other such nonsense. All I am saying is crime should be crime period. Giving extra crime becuse of the race of the victim , just like quotas, preferences etc, should be insulting to minorities.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The sad part is that it is proving to be easier to cure aids than homophobia!

http://www.nytimes.c...e-gay.html?_r=0

WHY are political and religious figures who campaign against gay rights so often implicated in sexual encounters with same-sex partners?

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Chloé Poizat

In recent years, Ted Haggard, an evangelical leader who preached that homosexuality was a sin, resigned after a scandal involving a former male prostitute; Larry Craig, a United States senator who opposed including sexual orientation in hate-crime legislation, was arrested on suspicion of lewd conduct in a men's bathroom; and Glenn Murphy Jr., a leader of the Young Republican National Convention and an opponent of same-sex marriage, pleaded guilty to a lesser charge after being accused of sexually assaulting another man.

One theory is that homosexual urges, when repressed out of shame or fear, can be expressed as homophobia. Freud famously called this process a "reaction formation" — the angry battle against the outward symbol of feelings that are inwardly being stifled. Even Mr. Haggard seemed to endorse this idea when, apologizing after his scandal for his anti-gay rhetoric, he said, "I think I was partially so vehement because of my own war."

It's a compelling theory — and now there is scientific reason to believe it. In this month's issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, we and our fellow researchers provide empirical evidence that homophobia can result, at least in part, from the suppression of same-sex desire.

Our paper describes six studies conducted in the United States and Germany involving 784 university students. Participants rated their sexual orientation on a 10-point scale, ranging from gay to straight. Then they took a computer-administered test designed to measure their implicit sexual orientation. In the test, the participants were shown images and words indicative of hetero- and homosexuality (pictures of same-sex and straight couples, words like "homosexual" and "gay") and were asked to sort them into the appropriate category, gay or straight, as quickly as possible. The computer measured their reaction times.

The twist was that before each word and image appeared, the word "me" or "other" was flashed on the screen for 35 milliseconds — long enough for participants to subliminally process the word but short enough that they could not consciously see it. The theory here, known as semantic association, is that when "me" precedes words or images that reflect your sexual orientation (for example, heterosexual images for a straight person), you will sort these images into the correct category faster than when "me" precedes words or images that are incongruent with your sexual orientation (for example, homosexual images for a straight person). This technique, adapted from similar tests used to assess attitudes like subconscious racial bias, reliably distinguishes between self-identified straight individuals and those who self-identify as lesbian, gay or bisexual.

Using this methodology we identified a subgroup of participants who, despite self-identifying as highly straight, indicated some level of same-sex attraction (that is, they associated "me" with gay-related words and pictures faster than they associated "me" with straight-related words and pictures). Over 20 percent of self-described highly straight individuals showed this discrepancy.

Notably, these "discrepant" individuals were also significantly more likely than other participants to favor anti-gay policies; to be willing to assign significantly harsher punishments to perpetrators of petty crimes if they were presumed to be homosexual; and to express greater implicit hostility toward gay subjects (also measured with the help of subliminal priming). Thus our research suggests that some who oppose homosexuality do tacitly harbor same-sex attraction.

What leads to this repression? We found that participants who reported having supportive and accepting parents were more in touch with their implicit sexual orientation and less susceptible to homophobia. Individuals whose sexual identity was at odds with their implicit sexual attraction were much more frequently raised by parents perceived to be controlling, less accepting and more prejudiced against homosexuals.

It's important to stress the obvious: Not all those who campaign against gay men and lesbians secretly feel same-sex attractions. But at least some who oppose homosexuality are likely to be individuals struggling against parts of themselves, having themselves been victims of oppression and lack of acceptance. The costs are great, not only for the targets of anti-gay efforts but also often for the perpetrators. We would do well to remember that all involved deserve our compassion.

Sounds like a bunch of nonsense. A study designed to get a certain response. I am very pro gay rights and I also have no doubt I am one of the straightest men in america. If I had been born gay or neutred my life would have been a lot simpler probably.

[Danno 1,228]

GAys are many times more likely to be killed and attacked by "one of their own."

Anyone want to put money on the outcome of this?

It could be a random Black guy who has it in for Flamers.... but I doubt it.

[decocker 7,198]

GAys are many times more likely to be killed and attacked by "one of their own."

i think you're missing your conservapedia link here..

[Danno 1,228]

i think you're missing your conservapedia link here..

NOt sure if you are setting yourself up to be thumped again or not... you didn't deny my statement was true.

[^_^ 5,021]

valerie never gets tired of being pwnd by you, Danno.