So, you didn't think Pelosi would try for a pull-out of Iraq?

[GaryC 7]

I'd put my trust in that body over Bush any day of the week and twice on Sunday!

YOU said it ET, I'd put my trust in that body (the U.N.).......over Bush! (PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.)

And? Again, Bush fcuked up matters outside of the US, no? Which is what we were really talking about - the fcuked up war in Iraq that Bush has lied this country into and the destabilization of an entire region (again, outside of the US). It is in that regard (matters of international peace and stability, matters of international law and order) that I put my trust into the UN over Bush any day of the week. Just because you can't grasp the proper context doesn't mean it isn't there.

Even your backpedaling speaks VOLUMES about you ET. You trust the UN more than Bush? The UN is the most corrupt, self-serving joke of a world body that ever existed.

Can you say "oil-for-food"? Can you say "rape in Africa"? Can you say "Chavez on the security counsel"?

You really amaze me ET. As far as I am conserned you have lost ALL credibility in any debate. Your vile hatred of Bush has clouded any rational thoughts you may have ever had. You need help man!

I would love to play with you more but it's my bed time now. Have a good life!

[Carol&Marc 0]

Even your backpedaling speaks VOLUMES about you ET. You trust the UN more than Bush? The UN is the most corrupt, self-serving joke of a world body that ever existed.

Can you say "oil-for-food"? Can you say "rape in Africa"? Can you say "Chavez on the security counsel"?

You really amaze me ET. As far as I am conserned you have lost ALL credibility in any debate. Your vile hatred of Bush has clouded any rational thoughts you may have ever had. You need help man!

I would love to play with you more but it's my bed time now. Have a good life!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'd put my trust in that body over Bush any day of the week and twice on Sunday!

YOU said it ET, I'd put my trust in that body (the U.N.).......over Bush! (PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.)

And? Again, Bush fcuked up matters outside of the US, no? Which is what we were really talking about - the fcuked up war in Iraq that Bush has lied this country into and the destabilization of an entire region (again, outside of the US). It is in that regard (matters of international peace and stability, matters of international law and order) that I put my trust into the UN over Bush any day of the week. Just because you can't grasp the proper context doesn't mean it isn't there.

Even your backpedaling speaks VOLUMES about you ET. You trust the UN more than Bush? The UN is the most corrupt, self-serving joke of a world body that ever existed.

Can you say "oil-for-food"? Can you say "rape in Africa"? Can you say "Chavez on the security counsel"?

You really amaze me ET. As far as I am conserned you have lost ALL credibility in any debate. Your vile hatred of Bush has clouded any rational thoughts you may have ever had. You need help man!

I would love to play with you more but it's my bed time now. Have a good life!

Again, I ain't backpeddling from statements I did not make. You chose to make statements on my behalf and I called you on it. That's not backpeddling.

And yes, I do prefer an organization that has done a great deal to foster stability in the world. Bush has done absolutely nothing in that direction. He set the Middle East back decades for this silly adventure of his.

Can you be any more infantile? Is it possible?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hold on a sec. As ET (Reinhard) has pointed many times before, if the UN is so corrupt and unreliable why doesn't the US remove itself from that organization? Secondly, it's a bit silly for you, Gary, to keep talking about corruption of the UN as a disclaimer meanwhile accepting that corruption exists in our government. You accept that even though we've had corruption, we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The point that ET is making is that without international support for military action, the US is treading on dangerous ground, and the Bush Administration will further endanger our national security. Except in the case of an immediate and eminent threat against the US, we should NEVER use military force against another nation...period. You guys who are so keen to do that are scary...it's as if you enjoy causing bloodshed and destruction.

As the famous Republican President said (one of our best and a great WW2 general ):

"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity."

How you guys interpret hatred of war as cowardice is beyond me, but perhaps you should be put out in the battle field sometime to get the taste out of your mouths.

Edited November 14, 2006 by Steven_and_Jinky

[Ban Hammer 13,619]

How you guys interpret hatred of war as cowardice is beyond me, but perhaps you should be put out in the battle field sometime to get the taste out of your mouths.

you still think we get our money's worth outta this?

The five largest contributors to the UN regular budget are USA ($341,4m or 22% of the total), Japan ($263,5m or 19,5%of the total), Germany ($131,9m or 9,8% of the total), France ($87,3m or 6,5% of the total) and the United Kingdom ($74,7m or 5,5% of the total.

link

i wonder how far 341 million would go in paying for better schools.....

Edited November 14, 2006 by charlesandnessa

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Hold on a sec. As ET (Reinhard) has pointed many times before, if the UN is so corrupt and unreliable why doesn't the US remove itself from that organization? Secondly, it's a bit silly for you, Gary, to keep talking about corruption of the UN as a disclaimer meanwhile accepting that corruption exists in our government. You accept that even though we've had corruption, we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The point that ET is making is that without international support for military action, the US is treading on dangerous ground, and the Bush Administration will further endanger our national security. Except in the case of an immediate and eminent threat against the US, we should NEVER use military force against another nation...period.

Somebody can actually read and comprehend. Thanks, man. I started to think I am writing in a different language.

[Carol&Marc 0]

Can you be any more infantile? Is it possible?

Maybe, lets try this one! The winner is? ET, I am just havin fun with ya!

Edited November 14, 2006 by Carol&Marc

[Ban Hammer 13,619]

ah this explains it, i just found a pic of et. he's on the left

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Hold on a sec. As ET (Reinhard) has pointed many times before, if the UN is so corrupt and unreliable why doesn't the US remove itself from that organization? Secondly, it's a bit silly for you, Gary, to keep talking about corruption of the UN as a disclaimer meanwhile accepting that corruption exists in our government. You accept that even though we've had corruption, we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

The point that ET is making is that without international support for military action, the US is treading on dangerous ground, and the Bush Administration will further endanger our national security. Except in the case of an immediate and eminent threat against the US, we should NEVER use military force against another nation...period.

Somebody can actually read and comprehend. Thanks, man. I started to think I am writing in a different language.

[Carol&Marc 0]

ah this explains it, i just found a pic of et. he's on the left

Is that a U.N. peace officer in the background?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Guys, I think there's a fine line between joking around and harassing someone here. Can we stick to issues and miminize the personal insults?

How you guys interpret hatred of war as cowardice is beyond me, but perhaps you should be put out in the battle field sometime to get the taste out of your mouths.

you still think we get our money's worth outta this?

The five largest contributors to the UN regular budget are USA ($341,4m or 22% of the total), Japan ($263,5m or 19,5%of the total), Germany ($131,9m or 9,8% of the total), France ($87,3m or 6,5% of the total) and the United Kingdom ($74,7m or 5,5% of the total.

link

i wonder how far 341 million would go in paying for better schools.....

Do you hate war, Charles? I'm just curious if it's something you really detest or not. Please be honest.

[Carol&Marc 0]

Guys, I think there's a fine line between joking around and harassing someone here. Can we stick to issues and miminize the personal insults?

How you guys interpret hatred of war as cowardice is beyond me, but perhaps you should be put out in the battle field sometime to get the taste out of your mouths.

you still think we get our money's worth outta this?

The five largest contributors to the UN regular budget are USA ($341,4m or 22% of the total), Japan ($263,5m or 19,5%of the total), Germany ($131,9m or 9,8% of the total), France ($87,3m or 6,5% of the total) and the United Kingdom ($74,7m or 5,5% of the total.

link

i wonder how far 341 million would go in paying for better schools.....

Do you hate war, Charles? I'm just curious if it's something you really detest or not. Please be honest.

Steve, you have done the same to me, its all in fun! He called me infantile,so let the games begin! I dont usually get personal unless someone strikes first.

[Ban Hammer 13,619]

How you guys interpret hatred of war as cowardice is beyond me, but perhaps you should be put out in the battle field sometime to get the taste out of your mouths.

you still think we get our money's worth outta this?

The five largest contributors to the UN regular budget are USA ($341,4m or 22% of the total), Japan ($263,5m or 19,5%of the total), Germany ($131,9m or 9,8% of the total), France ($87,3m or 6,5% of the total) and the United Kingdom ($74,7m or 5,5% of the total.

link

i wonder how far 341 million would go in paying for better schools.....

Do you hate war, Charles? I'm just curious if it's something you really detest or not. Please be honest.

what's that got to do with my above post?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Since we’re talking about UN corruption – there is that small matter of the whole “coalition of the willing” with the second resolution. You know the one that made the war ‘legal’ in the most superficial “seat of the pants” way?

Steve, you have done the same to me, its all in fun! He called me infantile,so let the games begin! I dont usually get personal unless someone strikes first.

That's not true. Do you want me to post that quote of yours up here again?

"Simple Anti-American Opinions"

In response to....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I dont usually get personal unless someone strikes first.

Keep your story straight.