What will happen in this case?

[garya505 2]

OK, here's the situation. The fiancee had an affair with a BF in her country when she was engaged to her US fiance, before she came the US. She got pregnant by the BF and had an abortion (the fiance didn't know about this). After she entered the US but before they were married, someone tipped off her fiance (via an anonymous email) about what she had done and that she planned to take advantage of him. He said he didn't believe it and married her anyway. Some of her friends couldn't figure out why he didn't ask around to see if it was true (I was wondering that myself). With a little prodding I'm sure one of them would have talked. I know this guy and I suspect he thought he could change her. I know the woman too and she's a great actor so I'm sure she told him a convincing story. Now after her 90-day AOS, she is dropping hints to her friends that she intends to leave him soon because he has a "bad attitude" (I wonder why?). Like I said, I know this guy and I don't think he's abusive, but he probably has a "bad attitude" now because the honeymoon is over and he knows what she did and he is finally realizing that she is not the person he thought (or wished) she was.

It's a sad story for sure, but my question is - what will happen to her status in the US if they split up now?

Edited November 13, 2006 by garya505

[1HappyGuy 45]

This sounds like a classic case to be set up for spousal abuse. I would advise your friend to contact an attorney immediately. He needs to protect himself from what is surely a plan to claim spousal abuse. I'm pretty sure his attorney would advise an annulment and then contact the USCIS for revocation of status. This will likely cost him some money, but less now if he takes action, than if he waits for her to call the police claiming he beat her. She can find many people that will assist her in this endeavor so he needs to act quickly.

Make sure you advise him to thoroughly document everything he does, he knows and actions taken. See, it is not just American men trying to take advantage of foreign women. I feel really bad for your friend, but if he is not careful, he could end up in jail with her living in his house. He needs to act now.

[Chris-n-Veronica 0]

If he doesn't leave the house... Move a Witness in that can be there every min he is... but best if you do as above(Get a Attorney)...and leave the house...have him move in with family..so they can say where he has been...CYA...

He needs to start covering his rear...because you can bank on it she is building the case now...

OK, here's the situation. The fiancee had an affair with a BF in her country when she was engaged to her US fiance, before she came the US. She got pregnant by the BF and had an abortion (the fiance didn't know about this). After she entered the US but before they were married, someone tipped off her fiance (via an anonymous email) about what she had done and that she planned to take advantage of him. He said he didn't believe it and married her anyway. Some of her friends couldn't figure out why he didn't ask around to see if it was true (I was wondering that myself). With a little prodding I'm sure one of them would have talked. I know this guy and I suspect he thought he could change her. I know the woman too and she's a great actor so I'm sure she told him a convincing story. Now after her 90-day AOS, she is dropping hints to her friends that she intends to leave him soon because he has a "bad attitude" (I wonder why?). Like I said, I know this guy and I don't think he's abusive, but he probably has a "bad attitude" now because the honeymoon is over and he knows what she did and he is finally realizing that she is not the person he thought (or wished) she was.

It's a sad story for sure, but my question is - what will happen to her status in the US if they split up now?

[garya505 2]

This sounds like a classic case to be set up for spousal abuse. I would advise your friend to contact an attorney immediately. He needs to protect himself from what is surely a plan to claim spousal abuse. I'm pretty sure his attorney would advise an annulment and then contact the USCIS for revocation of status. This will likely cost him some money, but less now if he takes action, than if he waits for her to call the police claiming he beat her. She can find many people that will assist her in this endeavor so he needs to act quickly.

Make sure you advise him to thoroughly document everything he does, he knows and actions taken. See, it is not just American men trying to take advantage of foreign women. I feel really bad for your friend, but if he is not careful, he could end up in jail with her living in his house. He needs to act now.

I was think that myself. I don't know this woman well but I know she is very clever. I forgot to mention that she was also getting significant amounts of money from another guy during the engagement. This doesn't bode well. I think I don't know this guy well enough that he would listen to me, and anything I would tell him is 2nd or 3rd hand but from reliable sources. Got any ideas on how to help this guy?

[diadromous mermaid 36]

This sounds like a classic case to be set up for spousal abuse. I would advise your friend to contact an attorney immediately. He needs to protect himself from what is surely a plan to claim spousal abuse. I'm pretty sure his attorney would advise an annulment and then contact the USCIS for revocation of status. This will likely cost him some money, but less now if he takes action, than if he waits for her to call the police claiming he beat her. She can find many people that will assist her in this endeavor so he needs to act quickly.

Make sure you advise him to thoroughly document everything he does, he knows and actions taken. See, it is not just American men trying to take advantage of foreign women. I feel really bad for your friend, but if he is not careful, he could end up in jail with her living in his house. He needs to act now.

First, there's no status, other than a pending one, to revoke. The USC could simply withdraw his endorsement as her sponsor if it is done prior to the AOS application being adjudicated.

Secondly, his "bad attitude" could mean anything. Naturally, he would be best off not to engage in any altercations or allow anything to esclaate to the point where is could be perceived as a domestic dispute and elicit police attnetion, but it takes much more than an allegation to build a successful VAWA claim.

[garya505 2]

Oh yeah, I forgot some other stuff. She stole money from the place she worked before she left with her fiance. She also pawned her engagement ring, then later got money from her fiance to retrieve it from the pawn shop.

I got all this info from friends and relatives, in case you are wondering.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

Oh yeah, I forgot some other stuff. She stole money from the place she worked before she left with her fiance. She also pawned her engagement ring, then later got money from her fiance to retrieve it from the pawn shop.

I got all this info from friends and relatives, in case you are wondering.

If you are still wondering what the USC can do, he can withdraw his endorsement on the AOS package, and the Affiavit of Support. He should notify the Service Centre over his jurisdiction and the local District Office, the grounds for withdrawal being that the bonds of marriage are irretrievably broken and the marriage will terminate. The alien wife will not be able to adjust status with the BF while in the USA if this is done before AOS is approved. Then he should find a good family lawyer.

[garya505 2]

Oh yeah, I forgot some other stuff. She stole money from the place she worked before she left with her fiance. She also pawned her engagement ring, then later got money from her fiance to retrieve it from the pawn shop.

I got all this info from friends and relatives, in case you are wondering.

If you are still wondering what the USC can do, he can withdraw his endorsement on the AOS package, and the Affiavit of Support. He should notify the Service Centre over his jurisdiction and the local District Office, the grounds for withdrawal being that the bonds of marriage are irretrievably broken and the marriage will terminate. The alien wife will not be able to adjust status with the BF while in the USA if this is done before AOS is approved. Then he should find a good family lawyer.

Thanks. I think a bigger problem would be convincing him of what she did and what she may be planning to do.

[PurrSuede 0]

Naturally, he would be best off not to engage in any altercations or allow anything to esclaate to the point where is could be perceived as a domestic dispute and elicit police attnetion, but it takes much more than an allegation to build a successful VAWA claim.

However, it only takes ONE complaint by only one person to have something perceived as a "domestic dispute" and elicit police attention. Having been there, done that, I was determined not to wear the t-shirt.

What happened in a nutshell: My (ex-)spouse walked off and went three doors down the street when we were having an arguement and told a policeman who lived there: "he throws me away from house!".

The police had no choice but to investigate. I didn't throw her anything, or even touch her. I had closed the garage door when she was standing outside as I didn't want her to see me putting financial instruments (checkbook, credit cards) in my car. The back door was open, and she never even knocked on the front door, just marched off down the street to the policeman's house, because she saw a squad car in front of it.

The point is, if only ONE person wants to escalate it, by filing a complaint, no matter how fraudulent, they can do so.

The second part of your statement, that it "takes much more than an allegation to build a VAWA claim" is quite true, however, indeed.

The result of the police "investigation" into our dispute was "domestic dispute, no evidence of violence by either party".

Nevertheless, her making such a fraudulent claim and soliciting police involvement was the final straw and I sought out a divorce lawyer and immigration lawyer immediately and soon thereafter filed for divorce.

I was not going to spend energy, time, money and all the rest trying to defend myself against any future fraudulent Domestic Violence claims. Much less just knowing what having a DV charge on your record can do, especially complicating matters of immigration in the case of a future spouse.

-- Dan

[Boiler 45,499]

especially complicating matters of immigration in the case of a future spouse.

-- Dan

Now thats what I call future planning.........

[PurrSuede 0]

especially complicating matters of immigration in the case of a future spouse.

-- Dan

Now thats what I call future planning.........

How about, let's just say I had a K-1 fiancee who got cold feet, we ended the relationship and she never went to the interview and never got a visa... so when I went back to Russia, I was already aware that sometimes "things" happen, and relationships aren't always successful...

And since I have been a regular member of VJ for a long time, I was very aware of all the ramifications of a DV charge, from the discussions about it here...

In fact, perhaps if I hadn't been a member here, perhaps I wouldn't have been cognizant of what she was trying to pull when the police showed up at my doorstep...

I let the officers in my house and co-operated with them fully and even explained to them she was an immigrant spouse, and also showed them some things about the visa process, such as filing a waiver on the basis of an "abused spouse" claim.

If I hadn't been a member of VJ, I wouldn't have even known about such things...

And yes, it helps to know what's going on when you go through this process, for better or for worse...

-- Dan

[garya505 2]

I'm afraid in this case the guy won't see the light until it's too late. I think it would take a lot to convince him right now. I have a vision of a train wreck in my head.

Edited November 14, 2006 by garya505

[broma25 2]

You can only inform him of the knowledge you have, if he chooses not to believe you then its HIS problem not YOURS....or is it?

[amwo 0]

We reap what we sow.

I'm afraid in this case the guy won't see the light until it's too late. I think it would take a lot to convince him right now. I have a vision of a train wreck in my head.

Why not try to introduce him to VJ? He will see there are others who have been duped and might see the light.

And question: What country is she from?

Edited November 14, 2006 by amwo

[garya505 2]

We reap what we sow.

I'm afraid in this case the guy won't see the light until it's too late. I think it would take a lot to convince him right now. I have a vision of a train wreck in my head.

Why not try to introduce him to VJ? He will see there are others who have been duped and might see the light.

And question: What country is she from?

Why do you ask, is there a country that doesn't have gold-diggers or scammers?