Chance of wife traveling to the US after filing

[fcat 79]

Well that's news! Thanks for correcting me, and for sharing

I still think the potential immigrant should bring lots of ties to home country, esp if they're entering the country with their spouse.

Oh me too, i wasn't and never have suggested anything otherwise. I had a copy of my NOA1, a copy of my lease and a letter from my employer,he didnt ask for anything, plus Ive been to the US 18 times in the last 26 months, four times for 2 months or longer. I answered all his questions and would never lie,the guy was real nice and we had a good chat.

[Boiler 45,519]

My assumption and everything I have read suggested they do not have access to any immigration proceedings at the PoE.

There are occasional odd comments to the contrary but I have never seen them backed up.

You certainly do not need a NOA.

[Boiler 45,519]

What would be one's advice regarding this: my wife owns her apartment in the Republic of Georgia and does not need to work (and therefore does not). Her passport is Russian. Since there is no lease, and no letter from an employer possible, how difficult does this make establishing her case that she will return to Georgia if she were to visit here? I know any answer is speculative, but I'm wondering if anyone has had an experience with similar circumstances. So far I've just decided its not worth the risk of being turned away.

Millions and millions of people visit the US every year, very very few bring lease documents or employment information.

I never did.

[fcat 79]

Millions and millions of people visit the US every year, very very few bring lease documents or employment information.

I never did.

But the millions and millions don't have any reason to maybe overstay or not return at all. Someone who has a wife or fiance in the US has a lot more reason to not go home! No ones saying that everyone visiting the US should bring ties to their country and the amount who do visit while on a CR1 petition i would think is very very few, there's also nowhere ive been able to see online that says officially you have to carry your NOA1 or anything else tying you to your country, however if you think about it its for your gain and makes perfect sense.

[Boiler 45,519]

But the millions and millions don't have any reason to maybe overstay or not return at all. Someone who has a wife or fiance in the US has a lot more reason to not go home! No ones saying that everyone visiting the US should bring ties to their country and the amount who do visit while on a CR1 petition i would think is very very few, there's also nowhere ive been able to see online that says officially you have to carry your NOA1 or anything else tying you to your country, however if you think about it its for your gain and makes perfect sense.

The millions and millions who have overstayed, usually there is no US Spouse or Fiancée in the picture.

If there is a USC in the picture then much more likely is that they would adjust, not overstay.

I would say most people who have the opportunity do visit during the process.

The NOA 1 does not tie you to anything, nor does a lease.

[fcat 79]

The millions and millions who have overstayed, usually there is no US Spouse or Fiancée in the picture.

If there is a USC in the picture then much more likely is that they would adjust, not overstay.

I would say most people who have the opportunity do visit during the process.

The NOA 1 does not tie you to anything, nor does a lease.

I didn't say the NOA1 ties anyone to anything! it shows tat you are planning on doing things the right way and are going through the process and making plans for the future! My lease certainly shows ties i have to an apartment here in the UK.

[Villanelle 4,122]

No one has to bring anything. But they also dont have to let you in. Its a case by case basis.

They interview each person. If you tell them you are married to a USC they will want to see that you have strong ties to your home abroad and you are not attempting to gain entry to adjust with in the US.

Things that would support that would be a NOA showing you already are in the process of obtaining a visa/adjusting- hence youre not coming to the US to adjust. A lease or proof of owning property abroad. A job. A car. A kid. A dog. A goldfish. Im being ridiculous now, but really, whatever you left behind. Not having suspicious paperwork with you (your birth certificate/ prior divorce decrees/ life insurance paperwork etc, things that you wouldnt bring on a vacation, but you would bring if you werent going back), not packing all your belongings and the kitchen sink because youre not going back.

Perhaps the OPs lawyer or lawyers they consulted with advised them that the foreign spouse would most likely be denied because she does not have sufficient ties. Perhaps she does not work, and does not own property nor have a lease (she lives with family). All she would have is the NOA.

If thats the case, they would have to take a chance and buy a ticket and hope shes granted entry based on the fact that shes entered before and has always left and has a NOA showing she has no intent to stay to adjust, that its just a nice vacation while they wait for the visa to be processed. If shes denied entry they wasted their money and the wife just took a nice flight to nowhere.

[Boiler 45,519]

The people who have problems seem to be ones pushing the envelope.

It is very very unusual to be asked more than the very basic questions. Assuming a regular visit.

Proof of owning property, why would that help showing you have to return? I can see it could help as far as financial standing is concerned.

[The Mean Lady 604]

not everyone is aware that they must bring NOA1 with them when they enter the US, in fact most don't. Nowhere on the NOA1 does it say you must bring it with you. You automatically jump to conclusions with most of your answers in this forum, acting as though every single person is out to scam the government or has some ulterior motive. I am sure if this was the case with the OP they wouldn't have asked in the first place. You tone is always so condescending.

This will be the second time that I've told you that I'm sorry you feel that way.

And I am not jumping to conclusions at all.

I'm going by what CBP has told me.

[The Mean Lady 604]

To the OP, Mimo, and anyone in between who feels that I'm shoving what I say down your throat.

I have had SO many experiences crossing the border and I feel I'm EXTREMELY qualified to tell you what things will allow you to have the easiest time crossing the border.

Here's a quick recap of the things I've been through:

- Handcuffed crossing alone back into my own country as a USC

- Husband denied entry, begged and pleaded supervisor for entry - entry changed to approval

- Outright denial

- Outright denial with threats of deportation

- White Lies - Followed up with outright denial of course

- Calls to work and friends to verify stories

- Approvals after intense questioning

- Frisk Searches

- More sets of fingerprints given than my husband even has fingers

- Approval after small amounts of questioning

- Escorts by spike strips (no, not everyone gets these)

- Locked in the new red flag room with other people whose crimes were deportation, arrest, and drugs

Seeing as my craptastic stories come from crossing from the EASIEST country possible, I don't understand how anyone crossing from anywhere else wouldn't WANT to listen. Because it only gets worse after Canada.

The things I tell you to bring were things that were told to me by more POE officers than I can even keep track of.

You never want to be in secondary so often that you know which officers are going to be jerks about the whole process. Or so often that they laugh about you knowing the process when the spike strip man comes to escort you.

So, am I telling you to bring unnecessary things?

That's up to you to take a chance on.

I'm giving you the best possible advice you could get to have the best chance of visiting the US during or even before immigration.

And to the person who wanted to know who I was replying to, I did not quote anyone because I was replying to an overall confusion about how the officers would know if you were in immigration.

And to add on that, no, they can't see it, but I'm sure they could find out if they wanted to.

[NikLR 13,227]

It's only been since 2009 that Canadians have needed a passport to even travel to the USA. Before that it was routine to just cross the border without a care. Why should the USA ever care that we cross? We bring tourist dollars, send gas, oil, water, lumber, power etc to the USA. We have more jobs. We're just colder. So if a Canadian should bring some proof that the average person has bills to pay and a job to return to, in case they are asked to provide it, why the heck shouldn't the rest of the world?

Yeah sure, a person could skip out n all those things, but the average person doesn't do it. I think the CBP understands that.

You don't have to bring anything. It is all suggestion that comes from people who have had troubles and want to help others. I've never been asked for my proof, but I get more than the standard 2 questions too when my answer to the purpose of my visit is to visit my husband.

Edited March 4, 2013 by NikiR

[The Mean Lady 604]

It's only been since 2009 that Canadians have needed a passport to even travel to the USA. Before that it was routine to just cross the border without a care. Why should the USA ever care that we cross? We bring tourist dollars, send gas, oil, water, lumber, power etc to the USA. We have more jobs. We're just colder. So if a Canadian should bring some proof that the average person has bills to pay and a job to return to, in case they are asked to provide it, why the heck shouldn't the rest of the world?

Yeah sure, a person could skip out n all those things, but the average person doesn't do it. I think the CBP understands that.

You don't have to bring anything. It is all suggestion that comes from people who have had troubles and want to help others. I've never been asked for my proof, but I get more than the standard 2 questions too when my answer to the purpose of my visit is to visit my husband.

[swiguy 0]

Thanks guys, we really appreciate the advise. Most likely we won't be immigrating until September, so we'll skip the CR1 phase. Especially now since we can go visit this summer which was our biggest concern about doing the visa. Those damn attorneys!

[Boiler 45,519]

Most unlikely you could immigrate in September.