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Some might think a lawyer is good to have, but most of the questions you will have can be answered in this forum or in the Guides. If your case gets complicating and someone here recommends to see a lawyer who would rather not answer your question, you could always go see a lawyer for that particular issue. They would probably only charge you for 15 or 30 minutes if you asked all your questions together.

If you do use a lawyer, be prepared. If the lawyer has to spend hours preparing what you should have done in the first place, then you just wasted hundreds of dollars for things you are going to wind up filling out or researching anyway. Most lawyers do not mind spending 30 minutes with you here and there.

In NJ, lawyers get $400 per hour, so $100 for a 15 minute consultation. In other areas, usually much less.

I am the USC.

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Permanent Resident since December 23, 2013

Filed N-400, February 8, 2017

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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I read in some prior posts that obtaining a lawyer for your K-1 visa processing is a waste of time because they slow down the process and have no pull with the embassy. But is there any added security to hiring a lawyer(specifically the online K-1 fiance visa lawyers)when beginning your application. My fiance is coming from a high risk country and I was considering hiring a lawyer online and spending no more than a $1000 for their services.

I thought a lawyer could help me dot all my i's and cross all my t's. This is very important to me and I'm willing to pay for some added security if it exists. However, the forum posts I read have given me second thoughts seeing how I've already purchased a book on filing a K-1 Fiance Visa and have a good understanding of the process.

I like to error on the side of caution when dealing with bureaucracies so does a visa lawyer have advantages?

It can be done on your own, just make sure you follow all instructions word for word when filing. Also be aware that it can POSSIBLY be a lengthy process depending on what road blocks could arise...one thing that messed my fiance and I up is when he went to his medical exam they asked him is he had ever used recreational drugs, specifically marijuana and he admitted to using it even though it was over 2 years ago, which he shouldn't have even admitted to, although according to the guidelines they use to determine substance abuse or addiction his admitted use was not considered by either definitions and he took a urine drug screen, which was negative, but the physician performing the exam actually put on the documents he sent to the embassy that my fiance used 6 months prior!!! This was false but we had no way to do anything about it. They made us wait an additional 6 months and go for a second medical exam, which was a huge headache for us but in the end it all worked out...So one pointer that we were unaware of is (if your fiance has ever tried anything) tell your fiance just say no when asked about this because even if your honest they will screw you over and deny you. Many times they seem to pass judgement based on looks so often they will require a drug screen either way so as long as there is no self admittance of drug use and the test is negative then that can prevent having to go through what we went through. Also after we finally got approved we were in administrative processing for 6 weeks prior to finally receiving my fiance's visa, which we actually just received yesterday! Just giving you some ideas of things that may happen so that you feel prepared even if the wait is longer then expected...we had no clue about these things and it would have been nice to know. We didn't use a lawyer and while they might have been able to give a few pointers to prevent what we went through I think you can do it on your own and have many questions answered on this site. WIshing you all the best and that your process goes smoothly :)

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Denmark
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You can pay me 200 dollars for checking the i's and t's and I'll do a better and more efficient job than a lawyer.

1 - search VJ for words like red flag and your country, or look at embassy reviews from your embassy. This is to understand what exactly a lawyer can't prepare you for unless he/she asks those specific questions. Things you might not consider possible bumps could easily turn out to be one - or on the contrary; it may help you calm down.

2 - A lawyer can't provide a guarentee that the petition will be approved. Not only that, but he/she can't always help on the other side of the pond(non-USC gathering documents).

3 - A good immigration attourney won't only charge you 1000 dollars unless they're just out to make easy money because there really isn't anything stopping you from doing it yourself. In such case, the only thing the lawyer does is put it in an envelope after YOU submitted all documents to the lawyer. Some on VJ got "a good deal" with a lawyer but found out later on that they couldn't just ask the lawyer questions through mail/phone/in person more than twice unless they wanted to be charged extra. Too bad when the first question was "any news yet".

If you decide to hire a lawyer, make sure you have a copy of the i129f petition that they submitted, a copy of NOA1 and NOA2 and any other correspondence to/from USCIS.

And if you're really, really bad at paperwork, paying a lawyer is an expensive way to never learn how to submit paperwork. You'll have embassy, later on AOS, then ROC and then citizenship(if so) and lawyering up each time will cost you the down payment of a house, basically.

Edited by moomin

K1 process, October 2010 > POE, July 2011

I-129F approved in 180 days from NOA1 date. (195 days from filing to NOA2 in hand)

Interview took 224 days from I-129F NOA1 date. (241 days from filing petition until visa in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until POE: 285 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

AOS process, December 2011 > July 2012

EAD/AP Approval took 51 days from NOA1 date to email update. (77 days from filing until EAD/AP in hand)

AOS Approval took 206 days from NOA1 date to email update. (231 days from filing until greencard in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until greencard in hand: 655 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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I used WWW.Rapidvisa.com very helpful and they will answer any concerns you have and they will even talk to you to ease your fears while you wait and it costs alot less then a lawyer.

Edited by AndyandMarissa
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It was worth the 2000 dollars I paid. I didn't have time because of work. Another thing was her English was very poor and her country's language was not her primary language so they brushed her up on her Vietnamese and English a month prior to interview, So people can have their opinions of not hiring an attorney and if you don't and not well prepared it could be a very long time before your loved one is with you.

The Buddha said "The more loving the more suffering"

By birth is not one an outcast,

By birth is not one a noble,but

By action is one an outcast,

By action is one a noble.

Buddha.

Posted

You can pay me 200 dollars for checking the i's and t's and I'll do a better and more efficient job than a lawyer.

1 - search VJ for words like red flag and your country, or look at embassy reviews from your embassy. This is to understand what exactly a lawyer can't prepare you for unless he/she asks those specific questions. Things you might not consider possible bumps could easily turn out to be one - or on the contrary; it may help you calm down.

2 - A lawyer can't provide a guarentee that the petition will be approved. Not only that, but he/she can't always help on the other side of the pond(non-USC gathering documents).

3 - A good immigration attourney won't only charge you 1000 dollars unless they're just out to make easy money because there really isn't anything stopping you from doing it yourself. In such case, the only thing the lawyer does is put it in an envelope after YOU submitted all documents to the lawyer. Some on VJ got "a good deal" with a lawyer but found out later on that they couldn't just ask the lawyer questions through mail/phone/in person more than twice unless they wanted to be charged extra. Too bad when the first question was "any news yet".

If you decide to hire a lawyer, make sure you have a copy of the i129f petition that they submitted, a copy of NOA1 and NOA2 and any other correspondence to/from USCIS.

And if you're really, really bad at paperwork, paying a lawyer is an expensive way to never learn how to submit paperwork. You'll have embassy, later on AOS, then ROC and then citizenship(if so) and lawyering up each time will cost you the down payment of a house, basically.

I was able to do the AOS without a lawyer . I too hired one for my K1 and K2. I say the latter part of your statement is untrue unless the petitioner lacks a basic understanding of English.

The Buddha said "The more loving the more suffering"

By birth is not one an outcast,

By birth is not one a noble,but

By action is one an outcast,

By action is one a noble.

Buddha.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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My lawyer basically didn't even know IR-1/CR-1 existed. He kept telling me K-3 was my only option. He sat on my paperwork for 1 month minimum before sending the I-130, and then when NVC time rolled around, it took him 3 months to get through that. They ONLY reason he got through that was because I kept pushing him and telling him what needs to happen next with information I got from this website. If it wasn't for this website, my wife might still be sitting in Thailand.

So I basically paid $1800 to delay my wife's visa for 3 months. Doesn't seem like that good of a deal to me. And this from a lawyer that claimed to have 10k plus marriage/fiance visa approvals under his belt.

Basically your just another piece of paper to the lawyer. They get your money up front, so what reason do they have to make sure your paperwork gets done in a timely manner or gets done correctly? Pretty much no incentive. Hiring that lawyer was a HUGE mistake. As someone stated above, all they do is fill out the forms. The petitioner and the beneficiary have to do all the legwork collecting documents etc., not the lawyer.

If there's some issue like a criminal conviction, deportation or ban, then by all means a COMPETENT lawyer is needed. If you don't have anything like that hanging over your head, and as someone stated above, can fill out a job application, I can't see any benefit in hiring a lawyer. Quite frankly it's somewhat comical to even think a lawyer is needed to fill out a few forms. I wish I had found this website before I hired them. The lawyer had me convinced without legal representation I was taking a huge risk trying to go it alone.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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My lawyer basically didn't even know IR-1/CR-1 existed. He kept telling me K-3 was my only option. He sat on my paperwork for 1 month minimum before sending the I-130, and then when NVC time rolled around, it took him 3 months to get through that. They ONLY reason he got through that was because I kept pushing him and telling him what needs to happen next with information I got from this website. If it wasn't for this website, my wife might still be sitting in Thailand.

So I basically paid $1800 to delay my wife's visa for 3 months. Doesn't seem like that good of a deal to me. And this from a lawyer that claimed to have 10k plus marriage/fiance visa approvals under his belt.

Basically your just another piece of paper to the lawyer. They get your money up front, so what reason do they have to make sure your paperwork gets done in a timely manner or gets done correctly? Pretty much no incentive. Hiring that lawyer was a HUGE mistake. As someone stated above, all they do is fill out the forms. The petitioner and the beneficiary have to do all the legwork collecting documents etc., not the lawyer.

If there's some issue like a criminal conviction, deportation or ban, then by all means a COMPETENT lawyer is needed. If you don't have anything like that hanging over your head, and as someone stated above, can fill out a job application, I can't see any benefit in hiring a lawyer. Quite frankly it's somewhat comical to even think a lawyer is needed to fill out a few forms. I wish I had found this website before I hired them. The lawyer had me convinced without legal representation I was taking a huge risk trying to go it alone.

:thumbs: This website is really invaluable.

Sent I-129 Application to VSC 2/1/12
NOA1 2/8/12
RFE 8/2/12
RFE reply 8/3/12
NOA2 8/16/12
NVC received 8/27/12
NVC left 8/29/12
Manila Embassy received 9/5/12
Visa appointment & approval 9/7/12
Arrived in US 10/5/2012
Married 11/24/2012
AOS application sent 12/19/12

AOS approved 8/24/13

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:thumbs: This website is really invaluable.

It sure is, thats how I found the best immigration attorney in the world that practices in Vietnam.

The Buddha said "The more loving the more suffering"

By birth is not one an outcast,

By birth is not one a noble,but

By action is one an outcast,

By action is one a noble.

Buddha.

Posted

If you are intelligent enough to read all the accompanying notes to the forms you need to complete (and, of course, the guides at the top of this forum) then you're certainly capable of filing for a visa yourself.

The most important thing is to make sure you understand all the evidence that is required and double check your "packet" before you submit it. Check the latest fees, the latest forms and ask any questions here on VJ. :)

ROC

AR11 filed: 02/05/11

I-751 filed at Vermont Service Center: 02/07/11

NOA: 02/14/11

Biometrics appt: 03/21/11

RoC Interview: Not required

RoC Approved: 08/04/2011

10 yr Green card received: 08/10/2011

Country: Kenya
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I read in some prior posts that obtaining a lawyer for your K-1 visa processing is a waste of time because they slow down the process and have no pull with the embassy. But is there any added security to hiring a lawyer(specifically the online K-1 fiance visa lawyers)when beginning your application. My fiance is coming from a high risk country and I was considering hiring a lawyer online and spending no more than a $1000 for their services.

I thought a lawyer could help me dot all my i's and cross all my t's. This is very important to me and I'm willing to pay for some added security if it exists. However, the forum posts I read have given me second thoughts seeing how I've already purchased a book on filing a K-1 Fiance Visa and have a good understanding of the process.

I like to error on the side of caution when dealing with bureaucracies so does a visa lawyer have advantages?

Let me just say that I appreciate this question being asked because it has given me confidence. I would also like to thank all those that made comments and encouraging words on the reasons why you can do it yourself. As well as the couple on the attorney being use only if you do not want to deal with the paperwork. I believe that we will be filing ourselves!

Met online 9/2012

Courtship 3/1/2013

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Passport for USC 6/10 thru 28/2013 19 days

First face to face meeting Nov. 4th 2013 dancin5hr.gif

Married 19 November 2013 heart.gif

:energy: USCIS-TSC

5/3/2014 Filed I-130

11/3/2014 NOA-1

24/7/2014 NOA-2 {135 days} :dancing:

12/8/2014 Case Shipped {NVC} :dancing:

:energy: NVC

20/8/2014 NVC received

29/8/2014 NVC case #

31/8/2014 DS-261 submitted

3/9/2014 NVC billed AOS & paid

19/9/2014 AOS sent

30/9/2014 IV invoiced

3/10/2014 IV paid

21/10/2014 IV package sent

21/11/2014 Case complete :dance:(L)

03/12/2014 Interview scheduled

08/12/2014 NVC shipped to Embassy "In Transit"

12/12/2014 Ceac shows "Ready"

:energy:Consulate

15/12/2014 Consulate received

07-08/01/2015 Medical {Passed!!!!}

26/01/2015 Interview results {APPROVED} :dance:(L)

26/01/2015 DHL Air Waybill created online

28/01/2015 Air Waybill shows "In Transit" :yes:

29/01/2015 Visa ready for pick up {DHL}

02/02/2015 Visa in hand

26/02/2015 POE

The warmth of true friendship and the love that binds the hearts of husband and wife are a foretaste of heaven. God has ordained that there should be perfect love and perfect harmony between those who enter into the marriage relation. Let bride and bridegroom in the presence of the heavenly universe pledge themselves to love one another as God has ordained they should. {LYL}

Thought to share our journey for those who need the encouragement!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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I would be hesitant to give a lawyer even one extra penny that I didn't have to. Read the guides here and file it yourself.

 
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