NVC Filers - March 2013

[Sarsoor 8]

I've read your post, sorry to hear that...

I had my mom's case expedited 'cause I had twins and need my mom so bad. I emailed the supervisor with an attachment of medical certificate. I got an approval to expedite in 4 business day. The case was completed by NVC right away and send to the Embassy. My mom will be bringing the IV documents on her interview..

Good luck on your case, hopefully it will be expedited..(",)

Thank you DenMar_S for replying to my post! You gave me hope about my case too. I was going to send an email to the supervisor as well, but then my congressman suggested I send the request thru them. It should sound better too if they send it out by their name. I will make sure I send my husband all the papers again so he can take it to his interview.

Thank you so much for your advises and wishes Good luck on your mom's interview

[SundayBelinda 15]

OMG NVC got my fileeee!!! I screamed on the phone, the lady started laughing at me hahah! This call was my 4th one today, and the lady told me that it was received yesterday! lol so I guess the other people didn't see it?? I even called USCIS today and a tier-2 said it was not even shipped! lol .. What a messed up system! Anyways, I am happy phew!

:thumbs:

Told ya. Congrats.

[aluk 4]

I just called to see if I had a case number yet although I know it is early and was informed by the operator my case was received which I was aware of and that it takes 10-20 business days for a case number. I asked if he could tell me the exact date so I could know 10-20 business days and he said the case was received March 4th. This is funny because it took until March 8th for them to tell me my case was received when I called every day. There is a lag between when the case was received and when it is showing in the system.

The same exact thing with the same exact dates happened to me!

[SundayBelinda 15]

Just got off with NVC they said my case was received on March 4th but initially they told me March 8th.

The plot thickens...

[champi 13]

The plot thickens...

Same happened here. For 2 weeks, they kept telling us they received our case on 22nd Feb. Then last week, we started getting Feb 18th date. On the bright side, moving date back means less days to go before 20th day arrives

[Sarsoor 8]

Told ya. Congrats.

Yup :thumbs: Thanks dear! And that is weird about the receiving date by NVC! This system seems messed up to me lol

[SundayBelinda 15]

Same happened here. For 2 weeks, they kept telling us they received our case on 22nd Feb. Then last week, we started getting Feb 18th date. On the bright side, moving date back means less days to go before 20th day arrives

Yes! Looks like I already put in five days. I'm going to get my number any day now. I believe it.

[DenMar_S 7]

Thank you DenMar_S for replying to my post! You gave me hope about my case too. I was going to send an email to the supervisor as well, but then my congressman suggested I send the request thru them. It should sound better too if they send it out by their name. I will make sure I send my husband all the papers again so he can take it to his interview.

Thank you so much for your advises and wishes Good luck on your mom's interview

Btw, there's one I know here that he emailed the supervisor to expedite at the same time his Congressman.. Maybe if you too emailed the NVC will pressure them. If you can ask your OB to give you a medical certificate to attach on your email, that helps a lot!

[aprice138 16]

OK VJ superminds. Let me see if you can help me make sense of what this operator is trying to tell me.

I got a false checklist today that said "we are still waiting for the response to the checklist letter for the Immigrant Visa Application"

I ask her, so does this mean my AOS packet has been accepted?

"No we sent the checklist for that on the 7th."

"Um no, you sent that on the 26th of February. You sent the IV checklist on the 8th."

"We sent the IV checklist on the 11th."

...

To be clear. Feb 26th email - AOS checklist. Mar 8th email - IV checklist. Todays email? Ghost checklist apparently.

Thinking of calling in the morning and asking a different person to explain what this is.

Besides the normal barcode sheet and correspondence instructions, it just says:

______1 - IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATION PART 1:_______________________

The NVC has received the requested Affidavit of Support (Form I-864) or supporting documents.

However, we are still waiting for the response to the checklist letter for the Immigrant Visa Application

or civil documentation. Please return the requested information so that we may complete the processing

of your case.

Edited March 13, 2013 by aprice138

[Yugo 7]

I sent the AOS packet on 03/07, should I expect to hear back from NVC by email/mail? If so, in which timeframe.

[Saylin 1,605]

OK VJ superminds. Let me see if you can help me make sense of what this operator is trying to tell me.

I got a false checklist today that said "we are still waiting for the response to the checklist letter for the Immigrant Visa Application"

I ask her, so does this mean my AOS packet has been accepted?

"No we sent the checklist for that on the 7th."

"Um no, you sent that on the 26th of February. You sent the IV checklist on the 8th."

"We sent the IV checklist on the 11th."

...

To be clear. Feb 26th email - AOS checklist. Mar 8th email - IV checklist. Todays email? Ghost checklist apparently.

Thinking of calling in the morning and asking a different person to explain what this is.

Besides the normal barcode sheet and correspondence instructions, it just says:

To me, it sounds like a false checklist with them reviewing and accepting your AOS package. To me, it sounds like your case may be complete You got 20 minutes, call back and ask if your case is completed!

I sent the AOS packet on 03/07, should I expect to hear back from NVC by email/mail? If so, in which timeframe.

Neither. NVC doesn't email/mail you when they receive postal mail. You need to call in and inquire your status.

[americanrizvi 1]

Thanks Saylin for this information. Cleared a lot of confusion.

God Bless

Upon suggestion of a VJ member (thanks foobaz123), I have decided to create a FAQ of the most common questions I see here on VJ concerning the NVC process. If you know of a common question that isn't mentioned here, please inform me through a reply in this thread or PM me. I'd be more than happy to include it here.

FAQ

How long does it take to get a case number assigned after NOA2?

As of recently, it's been taking around 3-4 weeks. Check my spreadsheet (linked in post 1) to see where NVC is currently assigning case numbers.

When (and how often) should I start calling NVC about the case number?

Wait at least a week from your NOA2 date, then start calling. And call every single day afterwards until you get it.

What happens if my case doesn't arrive in a timely manner? (Timely manner being the current wait time)

VJ member tokinaija suggests: "Call USCIS, and specifically request to be connected to a Tier 2 supervisor (bypassing the contract customer reps). When connected to a Tier 2 representative, request that you want confirmation that your approved case has been physically shipped to NVC. In amenable words, request for the specific date that the package was shipped. If you are lucky, you will get someone who wold take the time to confirm this for you."

Will I receive XXXX (initial information package, invoices, instructions, interview letter, etc) by email or snail mail?

As long as you give over the email addresses of both the petitioner and beneficiary (once you have a case number), ALL correspondence from NVC will be sent through email.

What do I do after my case number is assigned?

Get the IIN from an operator (ask for the 'Invoice Identification Number', not IIN). Give over the email addresses of the beneficiary and petitioner. Email the DS-3032 (from the beneficiary's email address) following the template linked above.

When can I email the DS-3032?

Right after you get your case number. There's a chance it could get rejected (because they got to your email before they're ready to take documents), but if that's the case, just re-send it. On the flip side, there's also a chance it could get accepted and you wouldn't have wasted any time.

Note: if you have a lawyer, they're already designated as agent due to the G-28 included in the I-130 package, so no need to send the DS-3032, unless you fire your lawyer.

Note: if doing online forms (check link above for eligibility), then fill out the DS-261 found online at the above link. Do NOT send the DS-3032.

I got an email from NVC that contains a bar-coded DS-3032 (along with other information). Do I re-send the DS-3032?

NO. Do NOT email another DS-3032. NVC automatically generates these emails and do not care if you've already sent in a DS-3032 or not; they include a DS-3032 anyways. Only if NVC responds to your first DS-3032 email with a rejection do you send another one.

After the case number is assigned, how long does it take for the AOS bill to be invoiced?

Recently, it's been taking a week or less.

How much are the two bills? And how do I pay them?

The AOS costs $88 (per case) and the IV is $230 (per person). They have to be paid with a US banking account on the payment portal (site linked in first post). See information here: http://travel.state..../info_3906.html If you can't or don't want to pay online, here's a link to how to pay through the mail: http://travel.state..../info_3905.html .

Help! I can't sign into the payment portal. Why?

If you're getting an error message ("Please be advised that the case that you have attempted to access is not eligible for further processing by the National Visa Center at this time…" or "This case is in the process of termination. Fee payments and online forms can no longer be accepted…" or "You cannot make online payments for your case at this time. Please contact the NVC if you have questions or need further information."), do NOT panic. This is actually good news! If you just got your case number, then this message means NVC is inputting your case in their system. If you get this message a few days after case number generation, then it's a good possibility that NVC is invoicing your AOS bill. And if this message appears a few days after DS-3032 acceptance, then there's a good chance the IV bill is being invoiced.

What is needed in the AOS package?

Generally, the following is needed:

With no joint sponsors:

- Bar-coded cover sheet from payment portal

- Cover letter (optional)

- Completed, signed, and dated I-864 form by petitioner

- Tax information* of petitioner (either just the last year OR the last 3 years)

- Employment letter of petitioner (optional, but good proof of CURRENT income)

- Pay stub(s) of petitioner (optional, but good proof of CURRENT income)

With joint sponsors:

- All of the above of the petitioner

- Completed, signed, and dated I-864 of joint sponsor

- Tax information* of joint sponsor (either just the last year OR the last 3 years)

- Proof of US citizenship/residency of joint sponsor (ex: copy of US passport, US birth certificate, US naturalization certificate, or front & back of green card)

- Employment letter of joint sponsor (optional, but good proof of CURRENT income)

- Pay stub(s) of joint sponsor (optional, but good proof of CURRENT income)

If the joint sponsor is a household/family member, also include proof of that relationship (example: if a parent is a joint sponsor, include the petitioner's birth certificate with parents' name on it to show link).

*You have two choices here of what to send in:

- Tax return transcripts ordered from IRS (preferred by NVC and of most consulates/embassies) RECOMMENDED

OR

- Tax returns (1040) and W2s and any other schedules (if applicable)

What if I (the petitioner) live with my spouse in their foreign country? Do I need to include anything in either package?

You'll need to provide proof of US domicile with the AOS package, as well as bring it with you to the interview. Please read the I-864 instructions (pages 5 and 6) for information about it. This is NOT needed if the petitioner is living in the US. Here is a sample cover letter to include in the package (it lists MANY possible documents, some may not be applicable of course, to prove that you have, or will re-establish, domicile in the US):

NAME

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER

FORM I-1864

No. 15 Country of Domicile

I, XXXX, am currently residing in FOREIGN COUNTRY with my spouse, SPOUSE'S NAME. Below you will find a list of attached documents to show that my principle residence is in the US and the steps that I have taken to return to the US with my family.

Steps I have taken to maintain US Domicile:

• Maintained my XXXX voter registration

• Maintained my XXXX credit card registered in the US with a US PO box

• Maintained my bank account at the XXXX Credit Union

• Maintained my bank account at XXXX Bank

• Maintained my XXXX drivers license

• Maintained my US retirement fund through XXXX

• Maintained my US investment account with XXXX

• Maintained my US PO box

• Maintained licensure by the XXXX

• Maintained membership in the XXXX

• Maintained my automobile in care of my parents

Supporting Documents for the above steps I have taken:

• Voter registration card showing permanent US address

• XXXX credit card statement showing US billing address

• XXXX Credit Union statement showing permanent US address

• XXXX Bank statement showing permanent US address

• XXXX drivers license showing permanent US address

• Retirement fund statement showing permanent US address

• Mutual fund statement showing permanent US address

• XXXX license currently up to date

• Renewal of XXXX membership

• County tax bill showing I still own a vehicle

Steps I have taken to return to the US to take up residence:

• Made arrangements for us to have a house to live in

• Contacted schools for requirements of things to bring to register my children in school

• Contacted my auto insurance company to find out about re-instating my insurance on my car

• Contacted shipping company for estimate of costs to ship belongings

Supporting documents for the above steps I have taken:

• Lease agreement for our house

• Email from schools regarding registration requirements

• Email from my former auto insurance company regarding my inquiry

• Email from XXXX with estimate and correspondence regarding shipping our belongings

I declare that I intend in good faith to re-establish my domicile in the United States no later than the date of spouse's admission into the US.

I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States that the statements in this letter and all accompanying evidence are true and correct.

Signature: ____________________________________________________ Date: ______________________

NAME

Thanks to VJ member lemayz for this suggestion!

I sent the AOS package but got a checklist for the IV package (which I either have sent or not sent yet) [or vice versa]. What's going on?

If you sent the packages separately, then get a checklist for the other one, just ignore it; it's a false checklist. The same applies if you sent just one of the packages and get a checklist for the other. Please understand that as soon as NVC reviews a package, they very frequently generate a checklist for the other package, without even checking if they have it in the building first. If you do get a checklist for one of the packages, you do NOT have to use that bar-coded cover sheet; you can still use the one from the payment portal.

The only time a checklist is real (and not false) is if it asks for something very specific missing in a package (like a police certificate, for example). If it asks for something general, like the entire package, then you can assume it's false. Call up an operator at NVC to confirm.

Thanks to VJ member sulhaq for this suggestion!

When does the IV bill get invoiced?

After you send the DS-3032, NVC will most likely respond in a week or two with an acceptance email (or rejection). A few days after acceptance, the IV bill will be invoiced.

It's been more than a week or two since I sent the DS-3032 and haven't heard back. What should I do?

It's been suggested (and has worked successfully with a few members) if you send a second DS-3032 email. It'll be exactly the same as the first email (for the body), except with a different subject line. Put this as your new subject line (changing the case number and name to reflect your case):

Supervisor Review - NVC Case # MTL2012XXXXXX - BENEFICIARY'S FULL NAME - Second Time Sending

Members have gotten responses (aka DS-3032 acceptance) within a few hours (depending when it was sent)!

What is needed in the IV package?

Generally, the following is needed:

- Bar-coded cover sheet from payment portal

- Completed, signed, and dated DS-230 form by beneficiary (do NOT sign or date part 2; this is done at the interview) [note: if doing online forms (DS-260), the DS-230 is obviously not needed]

- Two passport-style photographs (2" x 2") of beneficiary (on the back, write: beneficiary's full name, date of birth, and case number)

- Copy of bio-data page of beneficiary's unexpired passport

- Original or Certified Copy of beneficiary's birth certificate, PLUS A PHOTOCOPY

- Original or Certified Copy of marriage certificate, PLUS A PHOTOCOPY

- Original police certificate(s)

Please read: http://travel.state..../info_3195.html for additional documents if applicable.

Also read the country-specific documents linked in the first post. There may be additional documents needed not listed above.

If my documents are not in English, do they need to be translated?

NVC's website states:

"All documents not written in English, or in the official language of the country in which application for a visa is being made, must be accompanied by certified translations and submitted to the NVC. The translation must include a statement signed by the translator stating that the:

-Translation is accurate, and

-Translator is competent to translate."

Despite this, I have seen cases of people getting checklists for not having translations of non-English documents. I'd suggest you get everything translated anyways to be on the safe side. It's not needed, but highly recommended.

How long does it take for a bill to appear as PAID in the payment portal after paying it?

Usually just a day or two.

Do I have to wait for NVC to email me instructions before mailing packages?

NO. If you wait on NVC for this, it can take WEEKS to get anything from them. As long as the respective bill appears as PAID in the payment portal, you can send in your package.

What address do I send the AOS and IV packages?

You will find their addresses on their respective bar-coded cover sheets, which are printed off the payment portal.

Can the packages be sent from abroad or does it have to be from within the US?

Doesn't matter where the package is sent from; NVC just needs to receive it.

Do the packages have to be sent separately or can they be sent together?

Either one or the other works. Again, as long as NVC receives both needed packages, they don't really care. Each way has their pros and cons.

Help! I called NVC and they said they haven't received my package(s) yet, but the tracking says it was delivered!

Don't worry. Unfortunately, the package won't show up in the operator's system until the package has begun to be reviewed. At that point, it's entered in the system. So, don't fret. If your tracking says it arrived, it arrived.

After sending in the packages, how long does it take for them to get reviewed?

Lately, it's been taking just a week or so after it's received.

Do I get an email if my packages have been accepted?

No, not that I have seen. You have to call NVC every day and ask for updates on your case to find out if a package has been reviewed and accepted.

Note: If you're in the EP program, lately people have been getting acceptance emails.

Do I get an email when my case is completed?

Generally, no. Only those doing EP (electronic processing) get the case complete emails. There are some non-EP folk that get case complete emails, but it's rare. Again, to find out if your case is complete, call an operator at NVC and ask.

After the case is completed, what happens?

In most cases: the case is put in a queue to get an interview date scheduled. Once an interview date is scheduled, the case is shipped out to the consulate/embassy.

Who should I be calling to find out my interview date?

You should be calling both NVC and DOS. Both have access to your case information. Their numbers are linked above.

How long does it take to get an interview date after a case complete?

This varies by country and consulate/embassy. Some people find out within a day or two, others a few weeks, then the few unfortunate that wait a few months (ex: Ghana). To get the best estimate for YOUR country is to search, using the timeline feature, when others got case completes and when they got their interview dates scheduled.

When do interview dates get scheduled?

If you talk to operators at NVC, they'll always tell you they ONLY schedule during the second week of each month. This is a LIE. They schedule interviews ALL month long. Many people (like myself) have gotten scheduled during the last week of the month. I repeat, they schedule ALL month long.

How long does it take for NVC to mail my case out after getting an interview date scheduled?

Usually it's the next day, but it can take up to a week or more in rare cases.

Is it possible to get a tracking number for my green card after POE?

Yes it is! Follow VJ member Darnell's advice:

"Call USCIS, get a human, ask for the TRACKING NUMBER on the green card.

Yes, such a thing exists, and they will give it to you when asked.

Then call USPS and inquire for status.

In the end, if USPS sent it back to USCIS, you'll need to call USCIS again, talk with an ISO about 'returned mail pieces', go over your address again on the telephone, and ask to have all returned mail pieces sent back to you."

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Please note: the above time frames are just estimates. Do NOT freak out if your case takes a little bit longer. The time frames are constantly changing. They also depend on NVC's work load for that day/week.

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Summary of NVC process:

- get case number and IIN, give email addresses over

- email the DS-3032

- pay the AOS bill, once it's invoiced

- once the bill appears as PAID, mail the AOS package

- pay the IV bill, once it's invoiced

- once the bill appears as PAID, mail the IV package

- respond to any checklists, if applicable

- get case complete

- get interview date scheduled

- case is sent to embassy/consulate

[Yugo 7]

To me, it sounds like a false checklist with them reviewing and accepting your AOS package. To me, it sounds like your case may be complete You got 20 minutes, call back and ask if your case is completed!

Neither. NVC doesn't email/mail you when they receive postal mail. You need to call in and inquire your status.

Thank you!

[champi 13]

I read somewhere that you should not send any document/paper that has information printed on both sides. The tax return transcripts are always printed on both sides of the paper (front and back). Is it recommended to make a copy of it on only front side of the paper and send the copy?

[Saylin 1,605]

I read somewhere that you should not send any document/paper that has information printed on both sides. The tax return transcripts are always printed on both sides of the paper (front and back). Is it recommended to make a copy of it on only front side of the paper and send the copy?

I'm sure it's fine for the tax transcripts as they get those all the time like that. It's just not recommended to print the forms out on both sides.