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Filed: IR-5 Country: India
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I am going through documents which may require during interview at mumbai consulate for my father. One of things I am not sure what to present for "PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP". I have birth certificate which show my father name.

Is there any other evidence require to prove for IR5 case for father - Son ?

Below is description written in http://travel.state.gov/pdf/supplements/BMB-SUP-ENGL-0003-1212.pdf

PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP: We strongly suggest that all applicants bring extensive documentary evidence of the relationship between the petitioner and the primary beneficiary and between the primary beneficiary and any derivative beneficiaries. Failure to do so could greatly delay your application while your application is investigated. Some examples of such evidence are family and other photographs (old and recent) showing the parties together, letters, cards, correspondence, and telephone records

Service Center : National Benefits Center

Consulate : Mumbai, India

I-130 Sent : 2012-09-10

I-130 NOA1 : 2012-09-12

I-130 Approved : 2012-11-30

NVC Received : 2013-01-07

Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2013-01-24

Pay I-864 Bill 2013-01-24

Receive I-864 Package : 2013-01-24

Return Completed I-864 : 2013-01-28

Return Completed DS-3032 : 2013-01-23

Receive IV Bill : 2013-02-04

Pay IV Bill : 2013-02-04

IV Package (all documents) sent Feb 7th 2013.

Case Completed at NVC : 2013-02-21 (Called NVC and Customer Service rep mention case is closed and all documents are good)

NVC email for Checklist (PASSPORT POLICE CERTIFICATE) - Feb 22nd 2013 ( I called NVC and NVC mention that Carry document during Interview)

Email Received for Case Closed from NVC : Feb 28th 2013

Interview Date : Aril 1st 2013

Visa Approved

Collected Passport : April 4th 2013

Paid $165 : April 4th 2013

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Filed: Other Country: India
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You must have some education certificates from India that has your dad name on it.

(.........s/o ..........)

You can use that to prove relationship. :thumbs:

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: India
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I am going through documents which may require during interview at mumbai consulate for my father. One of things I am not sure what to present for "PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP". I have birth certificate which show my father name.

Is there any other evidence require to prove for IR5 case for father - Son ?

Below is description written in http://travel.state.gov/pdf/supplements/BMB-SUP-ENGL-0003-1212.pdf

PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP: We strongly suggest that all applicants bring extensive documentary evidence of the relationship between the petitioner and the primary beneficiary and between the primary beneficiary and any derivative beneficiaries. Failure to do so could greatly delay your application while your application is investigated. Some examples of such evidence are family and other photographs (old and recent) showing the parties together, letters, cards, correspondence, and telephone records

Birth-certificate

School Certificates,

PAN Card

Photos with your dad

etc etc

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Filed: IR-5 Country: India
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Below documents should be mine or my father? Just need to know how would your prove relationship for mother if father is no longer live. I have one friend who has mother with no father live.

Birth-certificate

School Certificates,

PAN Card

Photos with your dad

etc etc

Service Center : National Benefits Center

Consulate : Mumbai, India

I-130 Sent : 2012-09-10

I-130 NOA1 : 2012-09-12

I-130 Approved : 2012-11-30

NVC Received : 2013-01-07

Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2013-01-24

Pay I-864 Bill 2013-01-24

Receive I-864 Package : 2013-01-24

Return Completed I-864 : 2013-01-28

Return Completed DS-3032 : 2013-01-23

Receive IV Bill : 2013-02-04

Pay IV Bill : 2013-02-04

IV Package (all documents) sent Feb 7th 2013.

Case Completed at NVC : 2013-02-21 (Called NVC and Customer Service rep mention case is closed and all documents are good)

NVC email for Checklist (PASSPORT POLICE CERTIFICATE) - Feb 22nd 2013 ( I called NVC and NVC mention that Carry document during Interview)

Email Received for Case Closed from NVC : Feb 28th 2013

Interview Date : Aril 1st 2013

Visa Approved

Collected Passport : April 4th 2013

Paid $165 : April 4th 2013

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: India
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Below documents should be mine or my father? Just need to know how would your prove relationship for mother if father is no longer live. I have one friend who has mother with no father live.

The documents should be yours listing your father's name. I've not studied much in India so I am not aware of exact format. But for my husband's documents, his father name is listed as my husband's middle name. In many documents, it even asks father's name. The point is, any document listed provided in this thread that has your father's name can serve as a secondary proof of relationship. I think the primary proof of relationship is your birth certificate and your passport.

IR-5 - for Mom
------------
08/27/2012 - Sent Application
08/28/2012 - NOA1 date
08/31/2012 - Received email from USCIS saying the package is accepted
09/11/2012 - Received a letter saying case transferred Lee's Summit, MO
02/15/2013 - Received an email saying case is approved
02/22/2013 - I-130 NOA2 hard copy received

NVC Journey
--------------
02/18/2013 - NVC received the case
03/11/2013 - NVC case # assigned
03/12/2013 - Petitioners' email corrected, Beneficiary's email added
03/13/2013 - DS3032 received
03/13/2013 - DS3032 email sent (was sent before the we received the DS3032)
03/13/2013 - AOS fee invoiced and Paid (shows In Progress)
03/14/2013 - AOS fee shows PAID
03/14/2013 - AOS package sent (overnight next-day delivery)
03/15/2013 - AOS package delivered to NVC on 03/15/2013 at 10:06:00
03/19/2013 - Re-sent DS-3032 email with Supervisor Review on subject
03/21/2013 - DS-3032 accepted
03/22/2013 - IV fee invoiced and paid
03/25/2013 - IV fee shows PAID
03/25/2013 - IV package sent (overnight next-day delivery)
03/26/2013 - IV package delivered to NVC on 03/26/2013 at 10:04am
03/27/2013 - AOS accepted
04/08/2013 - IV checklist found out by phone - NVC lost our marriage certificate sad.png
04/09/2013 - IV checklist email received
04/16/2013 - IV Checklist response mailed - new Marriage Certificate

04/16/2013 - Case Complete (they found our first marriage certificate during supervisor review??)
04/17/2013 - NVC received IV Checklist response
04/23/2013 - Case Complete email from NVC

05/13/2013 - Medical

06/03/2013 - Interview

Thank you God!!!!

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Filed: IR-5 Country: India
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Thanks Champi. How do you prove your relationship with your mother. I see in your signature that you have file IR-5 for your mother. I have friend who is waiting for interview for his mother. where he does not have father.

The documents should be yours listing your father's name. I've not studied much in India so I am not aware of exact format. But for my husband's documents, his father name is listed as my husband's middle name. In many documents, it even asks father's name. The point is, any document listed provided in this thread that has your father's name can serve as a secondary proof of relationship. I think the primary proof of relationship is your birth certificate and your passport.

Service Center : National Benefits Center

Consulate : Mumbai, India

I-130 Sent : 2012-09-10

I-130 NOA1 : 2012-09-12

I-130 Approved : 2012-11-30

NVC Received : 2013-01-07

Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2013-01-24

Pay I-864 Bill 2013-01-24

Receive I-864 Package : 2013-01-24

Return Completed I-864 : 2013-01-28

Return Completed DS-3032 : 2013-01-23

Receive IV Bill : 2013-02-04

Pay IV Bill : 2013-02-04

IV Package (all documents) sent Feb 7th 2013.

Case Completed at NVC : 2013-02-21 (Called NVC and Customer Service rep mention case is closed and all documents are good)

NVC email for Checklist (PASSPORT POLICE CERTIFICATE) - Feb 22nd 2013 ( I called NVC and NVC mention that Carry document during Interview)

Email Received for Case Closed from NVC : Feb 28th 2013

Interview Date : Aril 1st 2013

Visa Approved

Collected Passport : April 4th 2013

Paid $165 : April 4th 2013

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: India
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Thanks Champi. How do you prove your relationship with your mother. I see in your signature that you have file IR-5 for your mother. I have friend who is waiting for interview for his mother. where he does not have father.

In my signature, it is my husband who has petitioned for his mother. And it was difficult to find proof of mother-son relationship since most Indian documents do not contain mother's name. To make matters worst, my husband's birth was registered late, so we provided additional documents as secondary evidences showing his birth date as well.

The main evidences are birth certificate, passport, and parent's marriage certificate. In my husband's case, their parents did not register their marriage and his father is deceased. So we had to get 3 affidavits from few relatives attesting to his parent's marriage. These are the additional documents we sent with I-130 and the petition was approved recently.

Some photos of my mother and I during various occasions (with details on the back of each photos)

Copy of India's ration card and the translated version of it showing his mother's name as card holder and himself as Son

Copy of his PAN card of India showing the birth date

Copy of his Indian driver license showing birth date

Copy of his school Leaving Certificate showing place and birth date

Also, my husband do plan to attend the interview with his mom (if he is allowed to enter inside). At this point, we don't have any other documents to prove that they've mother-son relationship. So we hope we don't get ask anything more and things go smoothly

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IR-5 - for Mom
------------
08/27/2012 - Sent Application
08/28/2012 - NOA1 date
08/31/2012 - Received email from USCIS saying the package is accepted
09/11/2012 - Received a letter saying case transferred Lee's Summit, MO
02/15/2013 - Received an email saying case is approved
02/22/2013 - I-130 NOA2 hard copy received

NVC Journey
--------------
02/18/2013 - NVC received the case
03/11/2013 - NVC case # assigned
03/12/2013 - Petitioners' email corrected, Beneficiary's email added
03/13/2013 - DS3032 received
03/13/2013 - DS3032 email sent (was sent before the we received the DS3032)
03/13/2013 - AOS fee invoiced and Paid (shows In Progress)
03/14/2013 - AOS fee shows PAID
03/14/2013 - AOS package sent (overnight next-day delivery)
03/15/2013 - AOS package delivered to NVC on 03/15/2013 at 10:06:00
03/19/2013 - Re-sent DS-3032 email with Supervisor Review on subject
03/21/2013 - DS-3032 accepted
03/22/2013 - IV fee invoiced and paid
03/25/2013 - IV fee shows PAID
03/25/2013 - IV package sent (overnight next-day delivery)
03/26/2013 - IV package delivered to NVC on 03/26/2013 at 10:04am
03/27/2013 - AOS accepted
04/08/2013 - IV checklist found out by phone - NVC lost our marriage certificate sad.png
04/09/2013 - IV checklist email received
04/16/2013 - IV Checklist response mailed - new Marriage Certificate

04/16/2013 - Case Complete (they found our first marriage certificate during supervisor review??)
04/17/2013 - NVC received IV Checklist response
04/23/2013 - Case Complete email from NVC

05/13/2013 - Medical

06/03/2013 - Interview

Thank you God!!!!

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Dominica
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In my signature, it is my husband who has petitioned for his mother. And it was difficult to find proof of mother-son relationship since most Indian documents do not contain mother's name. To make matters worst, my husband's birth was registered late, so we provided additional documents as secondary evidences showing his birth date as well.

The main evidences are birth certificate, passport, and parent's marriage certificate. In my husband's case, their parents did not register their marriage and his father is deceased. So we had to get 3 affidavits from few relatives attesting to his parent's marriage. These are the additional documents we sent with I-130 and the petition was approved recently.

Some photos of my mother and I during various occasions (with details on the back of each photos)

Copy of India's ration card and the translated version of it showing his mother's name as card holder and himself as Son

Copy of his PAN card of India showing the birth date

Copy of his Indian driver license showing birth date

Copy of his school Leaving Certificate showing place and birth date

Also, my husband do plan to attend the interview with his mom (if he is allowed to enter inside). At this point, we don't have any other documents to prove that they've mother-son relationship. So we hope we don't get ask anything more and things go smoothly

We have an IR_5 (mother and father) I-130 pending at the VSC for 9months now... We received an RFE in February because of my husband's delayed birth certificate registration. We sent the information that was requested but I guess my first question, is does the secondary evidence of parent-child relationship have to be from the time of birth? For example, the baptismal certificate was a certified copy and not an original, signed by the priest at the church where he was baptized. It was hard to find (did not find) documents older than the late registered bc. My second question is how long can we expect to wait, the full 60 days? I thought once they received a response they reviewed the file. My third question is will the delayed birth registration issue come up again at the NVC? If so, should we submit the same additional documents (baptismal cert, affidavits, hospital records) when we submit the DS-230? Should they be copies or originals. Thank you for indicating that you sent photos. We sent those also not sure what else we could send. (How do you prove your parents are your parents if you have known them to be that for all of your life? It is frustrating.) Finally, has your petition been approved? I hope you get approved soon.

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