White supremacist asks hospital to only assign white nurses to his baby in the NICU

[Teddy B 17,252]

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Wow, Danno really shut you all down didn't he :dance:

Danno and Gary are a pair that will beat a full house anyday.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Danno and Gary are a pair that will beat a full house anyday.

Makes me wonder, do they read this stuff somewhere or is it just made up as they go along...

[Teddy B 17,252]

Makes me wonder, do they read this stuff somewhere or is it just made up as they go along...

Some questions may never be answered. It's kinda like the chicken or the egg.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Some questions may never be answered. It's kinda like the chicken or the egg.

Oh, those will get answered, it's still early. We will get a report on how awesome Vermont is or how this is stirring the pot.

[Danno 1,228]

1. It is always the right of the patient to decline any exam or procedure he or she does not want.

2. Perhaps a gay doctor would be even better than a straight one at being able to detect prostate abnormality!

The topic is not about refusing a procedure, but rather about refusing the worker providing it.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It's hard for you to understand where she is coming from. No one will ever discriminate against you.

Unless I want to become a fireman, police officer, hold a government job, be a teacher or work for any business with government contracts that follows "affirmative action" which is racism toward whites. I am going to guess you are OK with racial discrimination in the workplace. I am not.

Give me a break.

This man should have a choice who cares for his child, as should you. Neither you, nor I, need to like it. That is being PRO CHOICE, it means sometimes people choose things you don't like. Deal with it.

I am PRO CHOICE, you are not.

[Ban Hammer 13,713]

It's hard for you to understand where she is coming from. No one will ever discriminate against you.

you never heard of age discrimination?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

you never heard of age discrimination?

But we get all the HOT women!

Edited February 27, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Unless I want to become a fireman, police officer, hold a government job, be a teacher or work for any business with government contracts that follows "affirmative action" which is racism toward whites. I am going to guess you are OK with racial discrimination in the workplace. I am not.

Give me a break.

This man should have a choice who cares for his child, as should you. Neither you, nor I, need to like it. That is being PRO CHOICE, it means sometimes people choose things you don't like. Deal with it.

I am PRO CHOICE, you are not.

And you would be wrong, like always. You tend to make a racist/backwards statement, claim you are pro choice, then call anyone who calls you on it a racist. So once again I have to school you:

Affirmative action was created to give minorities a chance to make it since back when it was conceived. Because everyone knows(except you) that being black or brown meant you had to fight three times as hard just to get behind. Personally, I wish we didn't have it, you should be judged on the merit of you actions, not the color of your skin.The guy who didn't want a black nurse for example, what was his reasoning for wanting a white nurse? DId he see the black nurses qualifications and deem her unfit to take care of his child? Did she do something wrong and he felt uncomfortable? No, he saw she was black. He's a racist, pure and simple.

So, what did we learn in class today kids? Here is the definition of Pro choice: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pro-choice it doesn't give you the right to choose one person over another because of that person's skin color. That is called, wait for it, discrimination.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

you never heard of age discrimination?

When an older person gets in an elevator, how many times have you seen a woman clutch her purse? When they drive a nice car, how many times do you see them get pulled over because they fit the description? How many times have you ever heard of an elderly person being killed because they looked suspicious? If a job requires you to do some strenuous activity, and an advanced age person can't do those duties, it's not discrimination, it's a requirement. But I know for a fact that many minorities have had qualifications and more but still didn't get hired solely on the color of their skin, apples and oranges.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I understand why she's upset, her employer allowed her to be discriminated against. Personally I would have been ticked off, and i would have made internal "noise" about it because I wouldn't the same thing to keep happening, they're supposed to protect their staff.

That said... she wasn't being singled out as a person, was singled out as a race. In permitting him to get his "freedom" he squashed hers but she is trying to squash his freedom of choice as well.

What they SHOULD have done is instead assign a "team" or something of nurses in particular to look after the baby, NOT told the woman why the man didn't want her assigned (because that is offensive) and instead just told her it isn't personal (which it isn't) and that she's not being penalised, and told the man that once his child has been checked out he is no longer welcome in their facility, save for emergencies of course. That way they accommodate the gentleman's request, and also stand up for their staff.

[Danno 1,228]

Affirmative action was created to give minorities a chance to make it since back when it was conceived. Because everyone knows(except you) that being black or brown meant you had to fight three times as hard just to get behind. Personally, I wish we didn't have it, you should be judged on the merit of you actions, not the color of your skin.The guy who didn't want a black nurse for example, what was his reasoning for wanting a white nurse? DId he see the black nurses qualifications and deem her unfit to take care of his child? Did she do something wrong and he felt uncomfortable? No, he saw she was black. He's a racist, pure and simple.

So, what did we learn in class today kids? Here is the definition of Pro choice: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pro-choice it doesn't give you the right to choose one person over another because of that person's skin color. That is called, wait for it, discrimination.

Here let me school you a bit as well.

-Affirmative action "Takes" from person A. who never wronged anyone and gives to person B. who need not even demonstrate he was wronged or that his family history was even in the country from that era.

Person B. may or may not even be as deserving of the preference.

I think most people agree "some" forms of affirmative actions were needed and just..... the shelf-life on that is up.

- In your second point you layout the logic of why it was wrong to reject the Black care taker. A. she did nothing wrong B. She was well qualified.

The customers hangup was all in his mind. (what he was comfortable with)

To which I have pointed out- this is quite common, even members here reject health professionals simply based on their sex.

Since this story broke there have been studies brought to light which show this type of thing is not all uncommon, with Minorities most often requesting a different race/ religion care taker, in most cases they are accommodated.

So apparently this is more about a white guy with an unpopular Tattoo... than it is about race preference.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Here let me school you a bit as well.

-Affirmative action "Takes" from person A. who never wronged anyone and gives to person B. who need not even demonstrate he was wronged or that his family history was even in the country from that era.

Person B. may or may not even be as deserving of the preference.

I think most people agree "some" forms of affirmative actions were needed and just..... the shelf-life on that is up.

- In your second point you layout the logic of why it was wrong to reject the Black care taker. A. she did nothing wrong B. She was well qualified.

The customers hangup was all in his mind. (what he was comfortable with)

To which I have pointed out- this is quite common, even members here reject health professionals simply based on their sex.

Since this story broke there have been studies brought to light which show this type of thing is not all uncommon, with Minorities most often requesting a different race/ religion care taker, in most cases they are accommodated.

So apparently this is more about a white guy with an unpopular Tattoo... than it is about race preference.

Time to go back to class Danno, your teachings are way off:

First, lets use some facts: http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html.

One University of Chicago graduate applying for a business money management position in Dallas told the Times of how one hiring manager became excited while talking to him over the phone about how lucky the company was to hear from someone with a top business school education.

But once the company representatives met him and saw that he was Black, “Their eyes kind of hit the ceiling a bit. It was kind of quiet for 45 seconds.” The company’s interest in him quickly cooled.

A Yale University graduate commented, “It does weigh on you in the search because you’re wondering how much is race playing a factor in whether I’m even getting a first call or whether I’m even getting an in-person interview once they hear my voice and they know I’m probably African American?”

Guess we still have a long way to go huh. I am glad my mother named me Marvin instead of Jamal.

And second, once again you missed the point completely. This was not about personal preference, it's about discrimination because she is black. He said it in plain english.

[Ban Hammer 13,713]

When an older person gets in an elevator, how many times have you seen a woman clutch her purse? When they drive a nice car, how many times do you see them get pulled over because they fit the description? How many times have you ever heard of an elderly person being killed because they looked suspicious? If a job requires you to do some strenuous activity, and an advanced age person can't do those duties, it's not discrimination, it's a requirement. But I know for a fact that many minorities have had qualifications and more but still didn't get hired solely on the color of their skin, apples and oranges.

when you get older, you'll understand. especially when you apply for a job.

discrimination takes many forms.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

when you get older, you'll understand. especially when you apply for a job.

discrimination takes many forms.

It's not I don't understand, I know this because I have been there. Being black you come into the world with it on your shoulder. Hell I catch it even more because I am married to a Malay and it drives some folks crazy. When i get older it will only get worse.