Poverty guidelines not needed for k1 visa???

[relshamy 11]

Hi guys,

So I called the Egyptian embassy last week to inquire about a cosponsor and they told me that I can't use a cosponsor for k1 visa and they don't require one. I told her I am not making enough money as the main sponsor for my fiance and I don't meet the poverty guidelines (I am working abroad). She told me as long as you show us proof of income it doesn't matter how much you're making. For a k1 visa all you have to submit is I134 and they don't check for poverty guidelines. When I submit I864 for adjustment of status that's when they look at the poverty guidelines. Is that true?? I never ever heard of such a thing. She was so sure too and she was a supervisor. Did anyone ever hear of that?? I am really confused and frustrated now.

[Master Semaj 2]

I'm not sure that information is entirely correct, I don't know if it differs from country to country. The affidavit of support and its respective documentation and evidence is required when you attend the interview at the American embassy for the K1 Visa, it is mentioned many times in guides and by people who have been through the whole process.

Going by what other members have said and experienced, for the K1 process the petitioner doesn't necessarily have to supply a passing I-134 if there is a valid co sponsor available (typically a close member of the family, someone who does meet or exceed the financial requirements)but obviously the best and simplest situation would be that the petitioner is able to qualify for the affidavit of support.

Once the K1 has been used and the beneficiary moves to file for Adjustment of Status, an I-134 is required from the petitioner as well as a joint sponsor if it is needed. The result of which must also meet or exceed the financial requirements.

I would find and research information regarding this part of the process and the specifics tied to your country and then call back again if you have more questions you would want to ask someone directly.

Edited February 2, 2013 by Master Semaj

[together4evr 360]

Do not believe them

You need a co-sponsor

Egypt sometimes will make you prove a higher salary then required also so make sure they earn more than 125% of the poverty guideline

[NY_BX 397]

Hi guys,

So I called the Egyptian embassy last week to inquire about a cosponsor and they told me that I can't use a cosponsor for k1 visa and they don't require one. I told her I am not making enough money as the main sponsor for my fiance and I don't meet the poverty guidelines (I am working abroad). She told me as long as you show us proof of income it doesn't matter how much you're making. For a k1 visa all you have to submit is I134 and they don't check for poverty guidelines. When I submit I864 for adjustment of status that's when they look at the poverty guidelines. Is that true?? I never ever heard of such a thing. She was so sure too and she was a supervisor. Did anyone ever hear of that?? I am really confused and frustrated now.

Untrue. The first thing they look at is $$$$.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Hi guys,

So I called the Egyptian embassy last week to inquire about a cosponsor and they told me that I can't use a cosponsor for k1 visa and they don't require one. I told her I am not making enough money as the main sponsor for my fiance and I don't meet the poverty guidelines (I am working abroad). She told me as long as you show us proof of income it doesn't matter how much you're making. For a k1 visa all you have to submit is I134 and they don't check for poverty guidelines. When I submit I864 for adjustment of status that's when they look at the poverty guidelines. Is that true?? I never ever heard of such a thing. She was so sure too and she was a supervisor. Did anyone ever hear of that?? I am really confused and frustrated now.

Absolutely not true.

Since the US Embassy will not accept a co-sponsor and you do not meet the poverty line, don't bother with the K-1 since you can not meet the requirements.

Get marry in Egypt and pursue a CR-1 spousal visa where a co-sponsor is allowed. This is your only choice.

[relshamy 11]

Thanks for the input guys. I spoke to another one today, she said the same exact thing about submitting any proof of income even if it's not meeting the poverty guidelines. I submitted a co sponsor anyways, and she said that they will only take a look at it if there's a need for it but most likely a proof of income is sufficient.

I'll just wait and see what happens, I guess.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hi guys,

So I called the Egyptian embassy last week to inquire about a cosponsor and they told me that I can't use a cosponsor for k1 visa and they don't require one. I told her I am not making enough money as the main sponsor for my fiance and I don't meet the poverty guidelines (I am working abroad). She told me as long as you show us proof of income it doesn't matter how much you're making. For a k1 visa all you have to submit is I134 and they don't check for poverty guidelines. When I submit I864 for adjustment of status that's when they look at the poverty guidelines. Is that true?? I never ever heard of such a thing. She was so sure too and she was a supervisor. Did anyone ever hear of that?? I am really confused and frustrated now.

This is a consulate specific issue. Consulates are required ONLY to satisfy themselves your fiancee will not become a public charge during the period covered by the visa they issue. In reality, during the period between the K-1 entry to the US and the AOS, that is virtually impossible. Somone at the Cairo consulate figured out the obvious and adjusted their rule accordingly.

That said, the K-1 is a non immigrant visa which means you need to do an adjustment of status after you are married and for THAT you WILL need to make the necessary income or have a joint sponsor.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Absolutely not true.

Since the US Embassy will not accept a co-sponsor and you do not meet the poverty line, don't bother with the K-1 since you can not meet the requirements.

Get marry in Egypt and pursue a CR-1 spousal visa where a co-sponsor is allowed. This is your only choice.

Absolutely CAN be true. The consulate can set any guidelines they want. They can even allow a intending immigrant to self sponsor or issue a visa simply on the specualtion that the immigrant will be able to support themselves. If that is what they require then that is all that is needed.

It is true that MOST consulates are not so easy going.

Thanks for the input guys. I spoke to another one today, she said the same exact thing about submitting any proof of income even if it's not meeting the poverty guidelines. I submitted a co sponsor anyways, and she said that they will only take a look at it if there's a need for it but most likely a proof of income is sufficient.

I'll just wait and see what happens, I guess.

You should be fine. I think these people are aware of their consulate's policy on the matter.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Do not believe them

You need a co-sponsor

Egypt sometimes will make you prove a higher salary then required also so make sure they earn more than 125% of the poverty guideline

This is more informative than generalities.

The input of people that have used the consulate you will is more valuable than anything else. I suggest you check this out in the MENA forum with other members that have used the consulate.

[tru_loves_journey 117]

Wow! That info is wrong. It's all about the money. If you go there and your income isn't enough you won't be approved. Many members on VJ mention how they were denied due to not meeting the poverty guidlines. That's alittle scary to me that they gave you that info. Egypt is a mixed up mess these days. Good choice in including your co sponsor info. Wishing you the best of luck

[relshamy 11]

Thanks guys!! I was shocked at the info as well since it was the first time I hear it.

I spoke to two different people. I mean why would they give out wrong info? And like I said, one of them as a supervisor.

They said that since K1 visa doesn't need a I864 then poverty guidelines don't have to be met.

I submitted a whole bunch of evidence of proof of money that my fiance will take with him as well as a bank statement from his dad saying that he will support him even after he travels.

I also submitted papers from my father saying that he will support us.

I am soooooo sure he won't become a public charge. I just hope they will realize it as well.

Thanks again everyone. Please pray for us.

[relshamy 11]

This is a consulate specific issue. Consulates are required ONLY to satisfy themselves your fiancee will not become a public charge during the period covered by the visa they issue. In reality, during the period between the K-1 entry to the US and the AOS, that is virtually impossible. Somone at the Cairo consulate figured out the obvious and adjusted their rule accordingly.

That said, the K-1 is a non immigrant visa which means you need to do an adjustment of status after you are married and for THAT you WILL need to make the necessary income or have a joint sponsor.

Thanks a lot. I feel a lot better

[aaron2020 11,651]

Thanks a lot. I feel a lot better

I respectfully disagree with Gary and Alla.

It doesn't make sense to approve a K-1 where the sole sponsor does not meet the poverty line because the poverty line comes into play during AOS with the I-864. Why let a K-1 in when the I-864 requirement is not clearly met?

Isn't it a bad policy to let a person move to the US, get marry, and then not be able to adjust because the sponsor does meet the poverty line?

Please come back and tell us if the k-1 is approved when you are the sole sponsor does not meet the poverty line.

Edited February 3, 2013 by aaron2020

[Hagrid 22]

Before our k1 interview we were asked to bring some documents including another i134 affidavit of support. As my then fiancee now wife made 2600 in 2011 and about 3000 last year, our co-sponsor sent me another i134 for the interview. We were suprised as another i134 was already in the i129f petition. They kept it at the interview but when the visa came they returned one of the i134 forms.

So as other members said, yes you need a co sponsor, don't go for a denial after having gotten this far and this close to be with the love of your life

Edit: I meant before the interview we were asked to gather some documents for the interview not bring before the interview. Just wanted to make this clear.

Edited February 3, 2013 by Juan L

[Hagrid 22]

If you don't meet the poverty lines you will be denied under section 212(a)(4) become a public charge.