Questions about Getting Married

[Peace.... 281]

Just kinda curious, someone can answer as I dont know the answer. How does she find the two witnesses required if her fiance wants to go the islamic route at the Embassy? I wouldnt think the person marrying them would have two witnesses by his side, unless they grab some men from the office or ???

If the Egypy Embassy is anything like the Moroccan Embassy in New York, well good luck. The Moroccan Embassy was a small one room with two over worked employees with very little english skills. All this embassy did, was lost passports, renewal passports, biometrics passports, etc.

Edited March 7, 2013 by foreverwaiting

[Mithra 1,185]

We literally grabbed two random dudes at the Ministry in Egypt to be our witnesses. So yeah, grab two random dudes. Or bring your own dudes! BYOD!!

Just kinda curious, someone can answer as I dont know the answer. How does she find the two witnesses required if her fiance wants to go the islamic route at the Embassy? I wouldnt think the person marrying them would have two witnesses by his side, unless they grab some men from the office or ???

If the Egypy Embassy is anything like the Moroccan Embassy in New York, well good luck. The Moroccan Embassy was a small one room with two over worked employees with very little english skills. All this embassy did, was lost passports, renewal passports, biometrics passports, etc.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Mithra

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We literally grabbed two random dudes at the Ministry in Egypt to be our witnesses. So yeah, grab two random dudes. Or bring your own dudes! BYOD!!

LOL BYOD....thats a keeper

[Ihavequestions 419]

I'm feeling miffed that my husband didn't have any embassy shouting matches on my behalf. We didn't even get married in an embassy, but it's still just making me feel inadequate now.

Well, there wasn't a punch up when I got married (in Egypt's equivalent to a "court house marriage" because that's the only way a foreigner and an Egyptian can be married in Egypt; it's the law), but there were several shouting matches and stuff. There was even one lady from New Zealand who barged in, along with her translator, to have a go with the marriage officiate because she was having such a hard time getting married to her Egyptian prison dude. And, as I recall, lots of cigarette smoking and a guy with a tea cart who kept rolling through. Does that count?

[Ihavequestions 419]

I just found out I am a fornicator for not pressing my thumb to his. Dammit. I've been living a lie.

You, along with millions of others.

Who knew that Qatar would be the only place to get it right?

[Nasturtium 500]

We literally grabbed two random dudes at the Ministry in Egypt to be our witnesses. So yeah, grab two random dudes. Or bring your own dudes! BYOD!!

Bwahahaha!!

You, along with millions of others.

Who knew that Qatar would be the only place to get it right?

Yeah, whole countries are doing it! LOL my husband just now, "Halal marriage is that you don't touch before you're married. No ceremony should have touching before marriage!" pffft!

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

I just found out I am a fornicator for not pressing my thumb to his. Dammit. I've been living a lie.

LOL J! and K, I love the BYOD line! next girls night out I'll have to use that !

[Ihavequestions 419]

Yeah, whole countries are doing it! LOL my husband just now, "Halal marriage is that you don't touch before you're married. No ceremony should have touching before marriage!" pffft!

Except thumbs.

Touching thumbs is halal and allowed.

[oldahmed 38]

Bwahahaha!!

Yeah, whole countries are doing it! LOL my husband just now, "Halal marriage is that you don't touch before you're married. No ceremony should have touching before marriage!" pffft!

And according to your husband/scholar, id two people touched each other before marriage, then got married while fulfilling all requierements of an Islamic marriage, their marriage is still non-hallal?

[Mithra 1,185]

Well this isn't true. With my first marriage we did the "thumb" thing under a cloth (marriage was in the US by an Imam) and then just last night my memory was refreshed that this also occurred during our marriage in Egypt. My husband was a bit hurt that I had forgotten. I asked him, so is there some sort of thumb thing that happens during a marriage ceremony in Egypt? He said, yes and then showed me how it's done. He was like, you don't remember doing that? In my defense it was a long, exhausting day. I asked why some have that and some don't and he explained that in Egypt anyways, the ceremony for Muslims marrying Muslims is different than Muslims marrying Christians. The Christian/Muslim couples would not have had this part in their ceremony.

ETA - the thumb part occurs at the end of the ceremony and it is brief.

You, along with millions of others.

Who knew that Qatar would be the only place to get it right?

Edited March 8, 2013 by Mithra

[Mithra 1,185]

I wanted to add that I haven't found anything when looking online for this so I'm not sure if it's Islamic or cultural or whatever. It's just that I, personally, have experienced it during an Islamic marriage ceremony.

[Mithra 1,185]

Lol! Well I don't think it makes you a fornicator since I don't think it's an "official" part of the ceremony. I liken it to the unity candle thing that some people do at Western weddings or whatever the modern equivalent is. I've seen candles, pouring of colored sand, etc.

I just found out I am a fornicator for not pressing my thumb to his. Dammit. I've been living a lie.

[Nasturtium 500]

And according to your husband/scholar, id two people touched each other before marriage, then got married while fulfilling all requierements of an Islamic marriage, their marriage is still non-hallal?

LOL no. You totally didn't get that, did you.

Lol! Well I don't think it makes you a fornicator since I don't think it's an "official" part of the ceremony. I liken it to the unity candle thing that some people do at Western weddings or whatever the modern equivalent is. I've seen candles, pouring of colored sand, etc.

Yeah, that's how it sounds to me too. So my fornicator hopes are dashed?

[Nasturtium 500]

I wanted to add that I haven't found anything when looking online for this so I'm not sure if it's Islamic or cultural or whatever. It's just that I, personally, have experienced it during an Islamic marriage ceremony.

Yeah. Jordan is no touching, no cloth, etc. But until recently there was also no touching even for married couples in public as well (now in some places you can hold hands. Exciting. Still definitely no kissing.

[RFQ 110]

Awe man... I let my husband beat on me a bit before we got married to make sure he was a proper MENA guy. I guess that constitutes "touching" and now my marriage might not be halal. D: *writes to Islam Q&A for fatawa*

(P.S. I didn't have any thumb thing)

Edited March 8, 2013 by RFQ