Georgia man shoots and kills young Latino who accidentally pulled into his driveway

[VanessaTony 3,567]

He fired a shot that killed someone. With intent to kill.

You can claim he's innocent all you'd like and I couldn't possibly care less what you think I know or don't know.

You fit in well here. Don't like someone's opinion? Question their knowledge. Works every time.

Really? You know that he intended to kill him? Another news article says he simply "shot at the car".. could just be an unlucky shot.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Agreed. But we weren't there and the friends are going to say what they think makes them look better, as will the gentleman and his family.

Unless this guy has CCTV footage there's no way to know what happened for sure except that 4 people entered private property and one was killed.

If the car is newer it might be able to tell us.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Really? You know that he intended to kill him? Another news article says he simply "shot at the car".. could just be an unlucky shot.

The purpose of a gun is to shoot and inflict harm. When you take a shot, you take a risk that you will hurt or kill someone/something.

I hope to never live a life where I'm so paranoid and scared of the world that I need to take a gun out into the driveway and start shooting.

Edited January 30, 2013 by Evylin

[VanessaTony 3,567]

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There is no allegation against the dead guy. Therefore, he isn't "alleged" anything. Come on, girl, take the dunce cap off.

Oooo nice. Yes there is. The elderly gentleman alleges that they were "up to no good" and "feared a home invasion".

[decocker 7,198]

blows my mind that people are trying to defend such an unnecessary death.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

If the car is newer it might be able to tell us.

Really? Like a black-box type thing?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Oooo nice. Yes there is. The elderly gentleman alleges that they were "up to no good" and "feared a home invasion".

Of course he alleges that.

The next time someone shows up to my door without an invitation, I will be sure to shoot them. Because I'm scared.

blows my mind that people are trying to defend such an unnecessary death.

It never ceases to amaze me the actions that some people here will defend.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

blows my mind that people are trying to defend such an unnecessary death.

No-one is DEFENDING an unnecessary death, however I am arguing that we don't know what happened for sure, we don't know if the man was protecting his home from criminals, we only know what one (and now 2) articles tell us, and that's not much given one of them says details are being withheld.

So how about we step out of other peoples lives and let them live with their choices?

Of course he alleges that.

The next time someone shows up to my door without an invitation, I will be sure to shoot them. Because I'm scared.

I never said I thought it was rational, it just makes more sense that he believed a crime was being committed and he thought he was doing the right thing to protect himself, his property and wife.

It make it much less nefarious if done for those reasons, than racist or "I'm going to shoot people for fun" reasons.

[^_^ 5,021]

Yes there is. The elderly gentleman alleges that they were "up to no good" and "feared a home invasion".

Those are characterizations and not actual filed charges. Therefore no actual alleged status.

Take the cap off, the legends of your smarts run far and wide.. I'd like to see it in action!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Really? Like a black-box type thing?

Yeah, everything you do gets recorded for X amount of miles.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

No-one is DEFENDING an unnecessary death, however I am arguing that we don't know what happened for sure, we don't know if the man was protecting his home from criminals, we only know what one (and now 2) articles tell us, and that's not much given one of them says details are being withheld.

So how about we step out of other peoples lives and let them live with their choices?

I never said I thought it was rational, it just makes more sense that he believed a crime was being committed and he thought he was doing the right thing to protect himself, his property and wife.

It make it much less nefarious if done for those reasons, than racist or "I'm going to shoot people for fun" reasons.

Shoot people for fun? Who said that?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Of course he alleges that.

The next time someone shows up to my door without an invitation, I will be sure to shoot them. Because I'm scared.

It never ceases to amaze me the actions that some people here will defend.

I believe I now have a way to rid myself of those pesky Jehova Witness folks next time they come a knockin.

[decocker 7,198]

No-one is DEFENDING an unnecessary death, however I am arguing that we don't know what happened for sure, we don't know if the man was protecting his home from criminals, we only know what one (and now 2) articles tell us, and that's not much given one of them says details are being withheld.

So how about we step out of other peoples lives and let them live with their choices?

everything you've typed has been in defense of the shooter's actions. i haven't seen anything from you defending the right of the dead guy to go on living..

by commenting on an article in an internet forum, i am in no way inserting myself in these people's lives. when i see people excusing poor judgement, judgement that resulted in the loss of a young person's life, i feel like defending reason. since reason seems to be loosing out to fear and reactionaries.

Edited January 30, 2013 by val erie

[VanessaTony 3,567]

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Those are characterizations and not actual filed charges. Therefore no actual alleged status.

Take the cap off, the legends of your smarts run far and wide.. I'd like to see it in action!

They were trespassing, he is defending himself against the shooting death of someone at his hand, on his property, and his defense will most likely be that HE was the victim, or going to be the victim, of a crime and he was right to defend himself, his family and his home. That makes the dead man an "alleged victim" until the court determines the man is guilty and makes the dead man the victim instead of the deceased perpetrator. That's just how the law works.

That said, I often make the mistake of trying to rationalise to irrational people. Unfortunately though my lunch-break is over so I have to stop now. Have a lovely day

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

According to the ALLEGED killer, and the ALLEGED victim's friends (who would lie to protect a friend) yes. They claim one thing, he claims another... that's how it works.

It is homicide one way or another. The homeowner shot a person, and that person is dead. The homeowner is a killer. It could be murder. It could be manslaughter. It could be justifiable homicide. It could be negligent homicide. Whatever the final judgment is, person A shoots a gun at or in the general vicinity of person B, person B dies as a result of the shooting. Person A is a killer. A murderer? Maybe, maybe not.

Do YOU know how the legal system works? Also, the lawyer is paid to present his client's version of events. He has as much, perhaps more, motivation to present a scenario that flatters his client.