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look my aunt have a 10 year green card and she renewed it twice already and she come to the usa and stay 3 or 4 months and leave for 2-3 years one time she stayed 5 years outside the usa and she come back with no problem and my mom sister got married her husband applied for her and she got a 10 year green card they stayed here for 2 years then he divorced her then she went back home she stayed 7 years . i forced her to come just so i can renew her card and they let her in with no problem they asked her in immigration that why she ben gone for so long she told them she ben taking care her kid after divorced and let her in and i renewed it then she went back. trust me you can come with no problem dont believe with they telling you to hire a lawyer or they not going to let you in. they will let you in and i know alot of people that stay long time and still come in

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Algeria
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look my aunt have a 10 year green card and she renewed it twice already and she come to the usa and stay 3 or 4 months and leave for 2-3 years one time she stayed 5 years outside the usa and she come back with no problem and my mom sister got married her husband applied for her and she got a 10 year green card they stayed here for 2 years then he divorced her then she went back home she stayed 7 years . i forced her to come just so i can renew her card and they let her in with no problem they asked her in immigration that why she ben gone for so long she told them she ben taking care her kid after divorced and let her in and i renewed it then she went back. trust me you can come with no problem dont believe with they telling you to hire a lawyer or they not going to let you in. they will let you in and i know alot of people that stay long time and still come in

Was your aunt in the US and of legal status when she received her original 10 year green card? I bet so. BIG difference.

The OP here was technically out of status and should never have been given the card. That is why everyone here is stating it was an error and to seek legal advise. If he tries to use it and it was issued in error he will have all kinds of bigger problems to deal with.

To me for something so incredibly important I would check with the lawyer - better safe then sorry.

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look my aunt have a 10 year green card and she renewed it twice already and she come to the usa and stay 3 or 4 months and leave for 2-3 years one time she stayed 5 years outside the usa and she come back with no problem and my mom sister got married her husband applied for her and she got a 10 year green card they stayed here for 2 years then he divorced her then she went back home she stayed 7 years . i forced her to come just so i can renew her card and they let her in with no problem they asked her in immigration that why she ben gone for so long she told them she ben taking care her kid after divorced and let her in and i renewed it then she went back. trust me you can come with no problem dont believe with they telling you to hire a lawyer or they not going to let you in. they will let you in and i know alot of people that stay long time and still come in

But remember that just because you and the members of your family abuse their GC and get away with it, it doesn't mean that everybody gets away with it. The CBP are improving their systems and one day the abusing will end. Green card is not a tourist visa. What do they need their GC for if they're not using it properly?

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Guys you dont believe me right !!!! iam discussing this with you ... me and my wife knows they denied the ROC , but now we have it ! iam just confused iam really sorry i dont mean anything , if i dont want to listen to you i would'nt ask you guys .... it just i dont get it and never heard of something like this !! and my wife called ins and they told her he is good to go !!! so put yourself in my shoe ! wwouldnt you think the same ?

I believe you. I believe that you received the green card from USCIS, and I also believe/know that they sent it to you by mistake. The USCIS does make mistakes. In your case, they clearly made a mistake.

Telling the US Embassy in Jordan, and telling the USCIS are two very different things. The USCIS is an agency under the Department of Homeland Security. The US Embassy is a part of the Department of State. You're dealing with two different agencies in two different departments. The US government is made up of hundreds of different agencies under numerous different departments. Do not assume that they talk to each other.

If you tell the US Embassy something, it does in no way mean that the USCIS knows. When you filed for an ROC divorce waiver, you told the USCIS this:

1. You married a US citizen.

2. You received a 2 year green card.

3. You divorced, but your marriage was genuine.

4. You want a 10 year green card.

5. You're residing in the US.

If all of the above is true, you're eligible for the 10 year green card. You don't need to tell them these things in person for it to be official. You tell them this simply by filling out the I-751 form and mailing it - In fact, that's the entire purpose of that form. The USCIS received your form, and approved it based on the facts you provided in the form. What you then told the US Embassy in Jordan is irrelevant - The US Embassy in Jordan has nothing to do with removal of conditions. Unless you actually went to the embassy in Jordan and told them specifically that you want to abandon your green card, the USCIS was probably never informed of your move. Again - No one at the embassy picked up the phone, dialed USCIS and said "Hey, this guy came in here and said he has moved to Jordan today. Put it in your system."

The USCIS most likely never found out about your move, and approved your 10 year green card.

Also remember, when you called the USCIS, you did not speak to an immigration officer. The person you spoke to was a contracted call-center phone operator. He/she is in no way a qualified decision maker in complex immigration matters.

Here is what will happen when you get on a plane and fly to the US. You will enter the immigration line, show the CBP officer your passport and your green card. The CBP officer will wonder how long you've been outside the US for. When he finds out you've been outside the US for 4 years, your green card will be revoked. Why? Because a green card is for people who live in the US. When you move from the US for a longer period of time, the US considers your green card abandoned, whether you've voluntarily abandoned it or not.

Don't ever assume that the USCIS knows what you've told the embassy. And don't ever assume that the embassy knows what the USCIS will say or do. Only assume two things..

1. The USCIS does make mistakes, and

2. They don't make exceptions for people who've received documents they weren't entitled to.

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look my aunt have a 10 year green card and she renewed it twice already and she come to the usa and stay 3 or 4 months and leave for 2-3 years one time she stayed 5 years outside the usa and she come back with no problem and my mom sister got married her husband applied for her and she got a 10 year green card they stayed here for 2 years then he divorced her then she went back home she stayed 7 years . i forced her to come just so i can renew her card and they let her in with no problem they asked her in immigration that why she ben gone for so long she told them she ben taking care her kid after divorced and let her in and i renewed it then she went back. trust me you can come with no problem dont believe with they telling you to hire a lawyer or they not going to let you in. they will let you in and i know alot of people that stay long time and still come in

Staying out of the country for prolonged periods of time is a ground for loss of permanent resident status, because you cannot be a permanent resident if you don't reside in the country. I'm sure people get away with it all the time - As with anything else. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to try.

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OK tell us one thing how did you do your biometerics when you filed for ROC, since you were out of the US?

I didnt do it .. they sent me 2 ASC Appointment Notice twice .... to go and do the biometerics but i didnt go !!! because i had the travel ban that date .... i reschedule it twice but i didnt go . :(

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I believe you. I believe that you received the green card from USCIS, and I also believe/know that they sent it to you by mistake. The USCIS does make mistakes. In your case, they clearly made a mistake.

Telling the US Embassy in Jordan, and telling the USCIS are two very different things. The USCIS is an agency under the Department of Homeland Security. The US Embassy is a part of the Department of State. You're dealing with two different agencies in two different departments. The US government is made up of hundreds of different agencies under numerous different departments. Do not assume that they talk to each other.

If you tell the US Embassy something, it does in no way mean that the USCIS knows. When you filed for an ROC divorce waiver, you told the USCIS this:

1. You married a US citizen.

2. You received a 2 year green card.

3. You divorced, but your marriage was genuine.

4. You want a 10 year green card.

5. You're residing in the US.

If all of the above is true, you're eligible for the 10 year green card. You don't need to tell them these things in person for it to be official. You tell them this simply by filling out the I-751 form and mailing it - In fact, that's the entire purpose of that form. The USCIS received your form, and approved it based on the facts you provided in the form. What you then told the US Embassy in Jordan is irrelevant - The US Embassy in Jordan has nothing to do with removal of conditions. Unless you actually went to the embassy in Jordan and told them specifically that you want to abandon your green card, the USCIS was probably never informed of your move. Again - No one at the embassy picked up the phone, dialed USCIS and said "Hey, this guy came in here and said he has moved to Jordan today. Put it in your system."

The USCIS most likely never found out about your move, and approved your 10 year green card.

Also remember, when you called the USCIS, you did not speak to an immigration officer. The person you spoke to was a contracted call-center phone operator. He/she is in no way a qualified decision maker in complex immigration matters.

Here is what will happen when you get on a plane and fly to the US. You will enter the immigration line, show the CBP officer your passport and your green card. The CBP officer will wonder how long you've been outside the US for. When he finds out you've been outside the US for 4 years, your green card will be revoked. Why? Because a green card is for people who live in the US. When you move from the US for a longer period of time, the US considers your green card abandoned, whether you've voluntarily abandoned it or not.

Don't ever assume that the USCIS knows what you've told the embassy. And don't ever assume that the embassy knows what the USCIS will say or do. Only assume two things..

1. The USCIS does make mistakes, and

2. They don't make exceptions for people who've received documents they weren't entitled to.

this is was HELPFUL ..... i really wanna thank you because you gave the right words to me to know whats going on ... thank you man and i will do what you said .

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uscis does make mistakes sometimes, maybe this wasn't a mistake, maybe it was, maybe they considered your circumstance and granted a waiver, its a maybe maybe thing, I wud recommend u talk to an immigration lawyer, he may have experienced a similar situation before, u told uscis everything and u told them the truth. u shud have copies of mails u sent uscis and mails they also sent u, so u can show when queried at the point of entry. I don't think u shud just give it up and file, follow it up and explore the possibilities.

it wasnt your choice to stay out, and they are kids involved, and maybe they know. we cant decide for uscis and say its a mistake, your chances of success isnt zero, goodluck.

uscis does make mistakes sometimes, maybe this wasn't a mistake, maybe it was, maybe they considered your circumstance and granted a waiver, its a maybe maybe thing, I wud recommend u talk to an immigration lawyer, he may have experienced a similar situation before, u told uscis everything and u told them the truth. u shud have copies of mails u sent uscis and mails they also sent u, so u can show when queried at the point of entry. I don't think u shud just give it up and file, follow it up and explore the possibilities.

it wasnt your choice to stay out, and they are kids involved, and maybe they know. we cant decide for uscis and say its a mistake, your chances of success isnt zero, goodluck.

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uscis does make mistakes sometimes, maybe this wasn't a mistake, maybe it was, maybe they considered your circumstance and granted a waiver, its a maybe maybe thing, I wud recommend u talk to an immigration lawyer, he may have experienced a similar situation before, u told uscis everything and u told them the truth. u shud have copies of mails u sent uscis and mails they also sent u, so u can show when queried at the point of entry. I don't think u shud just give it up and file, follow it up and explore the possibilities.

it wasnt your choice to stay out, and they are kids involved, and maybe they know. we cant decide for uscis and say its a mistake, your chances of success isnt zero, goodluck.

uscis does make mistakes sometimes, maybe this wasn't a mistake, maybe it was, maybe they considered your circumstance and granted a waiver, its a maybe maybe thing, I wud recommend u talk to an immigration lawyer, he may have experienced a similar situation before, u told uscis everything and u told them the truth. u shud have copies of mails u sent uscis and mails they also sent u, so u can show when queried at the point of entry. I don't think u shud just give it up and file, follow it up and explore the possibilities.

it wasnt your choice to stay out, and they are kids involved, and maybe they know. we cant decide for uscis and say its a mistake, your chances of success isnt zero, goodluck.

yes maybe ... there is a chance 50% i guess .. thank you buddy

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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I didnt do it .. they sent me 2 ASC Appointment Notice twice .... to go and do the biometerics but i didnt go !!! because i had the travel ban that date .... i reschedule it twice but i didnt go . :(

So... Your 10 year card has same picture as 2 year card? Just curious :)

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To all people whom said they will send you back to your country for abandon your status ... i entered from chicago and i stayed with customs maybe 2 mins or less and stamp my passport and entered the united states and i was away 5 years ! . thanks to the people who supported me to go and to the people who told me i will be sent home 100% i'll tell ya guys to fix your info .

You all have a good day and my next step the citizenship .

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Your immigration status is a mess my friend, sorry. However, having 2 kids with your US spouse will definetely play a huge roll for you. USCIS will take that in consideration and let you come back to take care of your family !!

I dont know but they might ask you to re apply for you GC once again ?! Maybe yes or maybe they will just forgive you. I have no idea. One thing Im sure is that they will take in consideration the need you have of being close to your children

 
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