Forget the House - Assault Weapons Ban Lacks Needed Votes to Pass in U.S. Senate

[lostinblue 1,989]

In 2012, the NRA lost almost all their causes that they poured any significant resources in. They poured millions of dollars into races and couldn't move the needle. Their return on investment was below 1% - that means that more than 99% of the money they spent to influence elections was simply pizzed out the window. They're not even remotely as powerful as you want to make believe here.

"All you have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".You have zero idea what you are talking about.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

"All you have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".You have zero idea what you are talking about.

I'm talking about facts. What are you talking about? Fairy tales about sleeping giants?

http://reporting.sunlightfoundation.com/outside-spending/committee/national-rifle-association-of-america-political-victory-fund/C00053553

[Khal_Drogo 50]

I'm talking about facts. What are you talking about? Fairy tales about sleeping giants?

http://reporting.sunlightfoundation.com/outside-spending/committee/national-rifle-association-of-america-political-victory-fund/C00053553

Actually referring to a quote made by Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after the bombing of Pearl Harbor in reference to bringing the U.S. into the war.

Not sure either, but yay.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Actually referring to a quote made by Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after the bombing of Pearl Harbor in reference to bringing the U.S. into the war.

Not sure either, but yay.

I know where the quote is coming from and I think it was fitting then. The NRA ain't no giant, though, regardless of how much the gun nuts wish the contrary. By and large, the NRA was rather ineffective with their political action arm in the 2012 cycle. They poured almost all their money into races that went the other way.

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I know where the quote is coming from and I think it was fitting then. The NRA ain't no giant, though, regardless of how much the gun nuts wish the contrary. By and large, the NRA was rather ineffective with their political action arm in the 2012 cycle. They poured almost all their money into races that went the other way.

Gun rights supports > NRA.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

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Gun rights supports > NRA.

That might well be the case but the gun nuts here make the claim that the NRA is oh so powerful. It isn't.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I would argue that the administration played their cards well regarding firearms and the election. They could have easily started this after Aurora but were silent. By remaining silent, gun rights became a non issue, after all the only legal movement Obama did in the previous 4 years was allow firearms on Amtrak.

The NRA only has power when gun rights are threatened.

[Khal_Drogo 50]

I'm a gun nut and I hate the NRA. I am a member of GOA, however, and while I was a regular NRA member until this last September, one of my friends gifted me a Life of Duty membership without telling me....oh well, it's free, so I said thank you and took it.

I'm not a fan of their rhetoric. Sure, all organizations on both sides spew it unapologetically, but the NRA is something special. It's like watching a drunk football player running the wrong way. You know they're gonna make it to the endzone, you know they think it's the right idea, but you also know that once it's done, they're gonna be replaying it and laughing at it for YEARS.

My first phone call as a married man was at the airport in Chicago coming back home, and it was the NRA begging for more money. Like sh** people, give me some time to unwind first. That and they like to say they're helping out gun owners, but really behind the scenes, they're simply helping to write the bills, not fighting them. I understand the whole if you can't beat 'em, join 'em mentality, but they join before even trying.

[natty bumppo 297]

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I'm talking about facts. What are you talking about? Fairy tales about sleeping giants?

http://reporting.sun...-fund/C00053553

You obviously know nothing about history ....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You obviously know nothing about history ....

I know that the races that the NRA spend 99.17% of their campaign money on went the way the NRA did NOT want them to go. I know that the NRA was painfully ineffective in 2012. Those are the facts. You've got something to refute them? And don't come with ####### from 2008 or 2004 or whatever. We're talking about 2012. Try to focus on that in your response.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I know that the races that the NRA spend 99.17% of their campaign money on went the way the NRA did NOT want them to go. I know that the NRA was painfully ineffective in 2012. Those are the facts. You've got something to refute them? And don't come with ####### from 2008 or 2004 or whatever. We're talking about 2012. Try to focus on that in your response.

Then we can expect congress to pass the laws you want and you will be happy. Sleep well.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I know where the quote is coming from and I think it was fitting then. The NRA ain't no giant, though, regardless of how much the gun nuts wish the contrary. By and large, the NRA was rather ineffective with their political action arm in the 2012 cycle. They poured almost all their money into races that went the other way.

So if they are insignificant why do you keep talking about them non stop

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So if they are insignificant why do you keep talking about them non stop

Al Qaeda is insignificant and yet we still talk about them. So what?

[natty bumppo 297]

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I know that the races that the NRA spend 99.17% of their campaign money on went the way the NRA did NOT want them to go. I know that the NRA was painfully ineffective in 2012. Those are the facts. You've got something to refute them? And don't come with ####### from 2008 or 2004 or whatever. We're talking about 2012. Try to focus on that in your response.

You FAILED to answer the sleeping giant comment,

Another fail ...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Al Qaeda is insignificant and yet we still talk about them. So what?

Actually Al Qaeda is far from insignificant. ??? They toppled the world trade centers and we have spent a great deal of lives energy and money fighting them..

That was a stretch even from you

You FAILED to answer the sleeping giant comment,

Another fail ...

Shhhh. he is on a "Al Qaeda is insignificant" kick now :rofl::rofl: