Shooting at Lone Star College in north Houston

[Teddy B 17,252]

Let's get this out of the way right now, so we don't have to go through it later.

In case the shooter is black:

In case the shooter has a funny name:

In case the shooter is a white male:

And last but not least, "If only the victims were packing, this never would have happened".

[Penny Lane 8,159]

CNN says it was a shooting between two gunmen, and some people got caught in the crossfire.

[Karee 4,191]

Certainly there are a lot more guns out there today than there were 3 decades ago.

And those guns aren't going away anytime soon.

[Robert&Liliya 31]

So what is the point you are trying to make here? That gun control would have solved this issue? That we who believe that banning guns for law abiding citizens is not going to make a difference are wrong because 3 people were injured in Texas? But to say that this proves your point that “gun nuts” are proved wrong about anything is unfounded. 3 people injured in Texas where we have a high rate of gun ownership is a big contrast to 27 people killed at a “gun free zone”. I can’t say that concealed carry stopped this but the shooters didn't seem to hang around shooting for a prolonged period of time. 1 in custody and one on the run with reports of around 5 shots fired.

This sounds like 2 idiots who would have gone after each other with any type of weapon. It happens. We don’t like it but we can’t keep blaming an object and not looking at the real reasons people do crazy things. Start with parents that are not raising their children. Look at a society that glorifies the thug life, being a gangster or having street cred because you have been to prison. We have “no child left behind” which holds back a large group of children that want to learn so we can teach down to the ones who refuse to be taught. Those children used to be called “Unskilled Labor” and if they got a good taste of that while growing up they might think that this education thing is not so bad. Children in other undeveloped countries go through crazy things just for the privilege of getting an education and we can’t get some children to show up for school. I don’t blame guns, movies, or games for where we are. I blame the fact that people don’t want to take personal responsibility for their own lives and for the lives of the children they bring into this world.

Disclaimer 1 - “This is not all people but a very large group”

Disclaimer 2 – “This is not limited by race or social economic class”

Disclaimer 3 – “This is my opinion, I may be wrong”

[Karee 4,191]

So what is the point you are trying to make here? That gun control would have solved this issue? That we who believe that banning guns for law abiding citizens is not going to make a difference are wrong because 3 people were injured in Texas? But to say that this proves your point that "gun nuts" are proved wrong about anything is unfounded. 3 people injured in Texas where we have a high rate of gun ownership is a big contrast to 27 people killed at a "gun free zone". I can't say that concealed carry stopped this but the shooters didn't seem to hang around shooting for a prolonged period of time. 1 in custody and one on the run with reports of around 5 shots fired.

This sounds like 2 idiots who would have gone after each other with any type of weapon. It happens. We don't like it but we can't keep blaming an object and not looking at the real reasons people do crazy things. Start with parents that are not raising their children. Look at a society that glorifies the thug life, being a gangster or having street cred because you have been to prison. We have "no child left behind" which holds back a large group of children that want to learn so we can teach down to the ones who refuse to be taught. Those children used to be called "Unskilled Labor" and if they got a good taste of that while growing up they might think that this education thing is not so bad. Children in other undeveloped countries go through crazy things just for the privilege of getting an education and we can't get some children to show up for school. I don't blame guns, movies, or games for where we are. I blame the fact that people don't want to take personal responsibility for their own lives and for the lives of the children they bring into this world.

Disclaimer 1 - "This is not all people but a very large group"

Disclaimer 2 – "This is not limited by race or social economic class"

Disclaimer 3 – "This is my opinion, I may be wrong"

No need for personal responsibility The govt. has your back.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And those guns aren't going away anytime soon.

And neither will the mass shootings.

[Karee 4,191]

And neither will the mass shootings.

Probably not. In fact, I think they will increase.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

This sounds like 2 idiots who would have gone after each other with any type of weapon.

Yes, and not a single bystander would have suffered injury and risked death had they taken it out with any other type of weapon. Would gun control have prevented this? I don't know. Does the total lack of gun control prevent this? Absolutely not.

Probably not. In fact, I think they will increase.

With the number guns. Yes they will.

[Robert&Liliya 31]

If you want something to be messed up and cost more than it ever should get the government involved. I would have supported Obama's health care plan if he had first demonstrated that he could clean up the mess that is Medicare and save the taxpayers all the money in waste and fraud he said he would use to fund it. "Obama is not the only one" It's always "This time it will be different" with our government. It's never "let me show you that we can do it" and then we can vote what to do with the money after.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you want something to be messed up and cost more than it ever should get the government involved. I would have supported Obama's health care plan if he had first demonstrated that he could clean up the mess that is Medicare and save the taxpayers all the money in waste and fraud he said he would use to fund it. "Obama is not the only one" It's always "This time it will be different" with our government. It's never "let me show you that we can do it" and then we can vote what to do with the money after.

Medicare fraud? How does that play into the college campus shootout?

[Robert&Liliya 31]

Yes, and not a single bystander would have suffered injury and risked death had they taken it out with any other type of weapon.

So no one has ever been stabbed on accident when they were not the intended victim? Nobody has ever been smacked upside the head with a baseball bat when they were not the intended victim? Nobody has ever been blown to little bits when they were not the intended victim? Wow, criminals have great aim with everything besides guns.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

This sounds like 2 idiots who would have gone after each other with any type of weapon.

You know, I always hear this statement. "They would have done it with anything!"

Possibly.

But guess what they choose the vast majority of the time?

It isn't one of the "other" types of weapons.

There was a story posted here just the other day of a man who killed his girlfriend or wife - can't remember which. He didn't even own a gun. He went out and purchased one and killed her that very day. Why didn't he use one of the "other" weapons he must have had in his house?

Because someone who wants to kill someone fast goes for the weapon that will do just that. And it's not a hammer or a baseball bat.

[Robert&Liliya 31]

It was in response to the Government has my back.

[Karee 4,191]

I guess it's easy to blame firearms. It's a quick, easy scapegoat.

Kinda like blaming drug dealers for overdose deaths, which seems to be the latest fad in law enforcement. Here in Texas anyway. Or blamig the bartender that over-served someone before they went out on the highway and killed a family of 4.

I have news for you. It's not the guns fault, it's not the drug dealers fault, and it's not the bartenders fault. We all really know who's fault it is. It's society as a whole. Fixing society is tough. Much tougher than banning firearms, or outlawing drugs and alcohol.

As long as we can blame the guns, we wont have to blame ourselves. This country has turned in to one big finger-pointing festival.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I've yet to see anyone think that the guns are the only issue. Just part of a larger problem.