Called by ICE just after I filed my I130 and I485 forms.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

The ICE agents who came to talk to my husband were very kind and polite and "helpful" and told us we had nothing to worry about. My husband was then detained and deported for his overstay. Not saying that would happen to you, but thought i'd share our situation (Of course, they came to our house so it is quite different.)

That's the thing.

They have his address.

[asdfg 18]

I find it extremely odd that ICE called immediately after 130/485 submission.

When did they get a chance to run the background checks, without even fingerprints submitted?

There are cases where apps either get refused/denied before interview OR when people go to the interview and there ,at the time of an interview, get approached by ICE (either arrested or interviewed) , finding out they had outstanding removal order and so on. But I have never read about a case where ICE called someone the day after USCIS received their application. It's just very difficult to have this kind of efficiency and speed of processing in such a gigantic organisation as DHS. How did ICE learn of necessity to contact OP the next day after receipt of app by USCIS?

If this was such an extreme priority that it rang all bells within 24 hrs then how come the OP isn't already in custody of ICE and instead still posting here asking what to do or what to expect?

I am not saying or claiming that what OP describes didn't happen, just finding it a bit odd and difficult to make sense of. Let's see what OP posts next time (assuming he went to the scheduled appointment today).

[Xanax 349]

I find it extremely odd that ICE called immediately after 130/485 submission.

When did they get a chance to run the background checks, without even fingerprints submitted?

There are cases where apps either get refused/denied before interview OR when people go to the interview and there ,at the time of an interview, get approached by ICE (either arrested or interviewed) , finding out they had outstanding removal order and so on. But I have never read about a case where ICE called someone the day after USCIS received their application. It's just very difficult to have this kind of efficiency and speed of processing in such a gigantic organisation as DHS. How did ICE learn of necessity to contact OP the next day after receipt of app by USCIS?

If this was such an extreme priority that it rang all bells within 24 hrs then how come the OP isn't already in custody of ICE and instead still posting here asking what to do or what to expect?

I am not saying or claiming that what OP describes didn't happen, just finding it a bit odd and difficult to make sense of. Let's see what OP posts next time (assuming he went to the scheduled appointment today).

Could just be coincidence. ICE could be following up on his no longer F-1 status (if he dropped out) and it just so happens that he filed AOS the day before.

[coolmind1414 13]

Could just be coincidence. ICE could be following up on his no longer F-1 status (if he dropped out) and it just so happens that he filed AOS the day before.

+1

[uzzmet 0]

I find it extremely odd that ICE called immediately after 130/485 submission.

When did they get a chance to run the background checks, without even fingerprints submitted?

There are cases where apps either get refused/denied before interview OR when people go to the interview and there ,at the time of an interview, get approached by ICE (either arrested or interviewed) , finding out they had outstanding removal order and so on. But I have never read about a case where ICE called someone the day after USCIS received their application. It's just very difficult to have this kind of efficiency and speed of processing in such a gigantic organisation as DHS. How did ICE learn of necessity to contact OP the next day after receipt of app by USCIS?

If this was such an extreme priority that it rang all bells within 24 hrs then how come the OP isn't already in custody of ICE and instead still posting here asking what to do or what to expect?

I am not saying or claiming that what OP describes didn't happen, just finding it a bit odd and difficult to make sense of. Let's see what OP posts next time (assuming he went to the scheduled appointment today).

That's why I'm confused and nervous. How come it happened? I talked to my lawyer and he said there must be a report on something else about me!!! I have no idea what it can be. But about 2 years ago I and my old roommate were reported by our lovely neighbors to the DHS. They used to park their car front of our driveway and when my roommate try to talk to them they would yell and curse at him. After several times we called the police finally and an officer came to talk to them. They reported us as illegal immigrants as a revenge of it and 3 special agents showed up. We explained the situation and they apologized, closed the case and left. That's it. They didn't even check our IDs. I was legal at that time anyway.

As I said one post before, I went to see a lawyer this morning. We rescheduled the appt to tomorrow. We are told that it's just gonna be 5 minutes to close an open case. Lawyer told me it can be about this false reporting or something else. But definitely it is not about my recent application to USCIS. We all learn it tomorrow. I haven't done anything wrong to be in trouble and I hope I'll be able to write you guys here

[asdfg 18]

+1

Could be. Rather than guessing I will see what OP has to say.

[asdfg 18]

That's why I'm confused and nervous. How come it happened? I talked to my lawyer and he said there must be a report on something else about me!!! I have no idea what it can be. But about 2 years ago I and my old roommate were reported by our lovely neighbors to the DHS. They used to park their car front of our driveway and when my roommate try to talk to them they would yell and curse at him. After several times we called the police finally and an officer came to talk to them. They reported us as illegal immigrants as a revenge of it and 3 special agents showed up. We explained the situation and they apologized, closed the case and left. That's it. They didn't even check our IDs. I was legal at that time anyway.

As I said one post before, I went to see a lawyer this morning. We rescheduled the appt to tomorrow. We are told that it's just gonna be 5 minutes to close an open case. Lawyer told me it can be about this false reporting or something else. But definitely it is not about my recent application to USCIS. We all learn it tomorrow. I haven't done anything wrong to be in trouble and I hope I'll be able to write you guys here

I am still very skeptical about your account of events.

ICE doesn't call people because someone falsely reported them for whatever petty reason.

Even if you were an illegal alien and you go tomorrow , walk inside ICE building, jump and scream to be arrested and deported, chances are strong they will call the police to remove you out of the building instead of bothering with you.

I find more inconsistencies with your description of events.

1. Police , as a matter of how they operate, refuses to even file a report unless there is an evidence of crime present, (ex. bodily injury, witnesses and etc). You yelling at someone is not an evidence of crime. Even if it was recorded , it would not be a crime to speak to someone with your voice raised, even if you told them to do to themselves very obvious things (unless you threatened to commit physical harm or violence). In instances you describe police would just talk to you and your neighbor and leave it at that.

I won't bet my limbs that this is a universal procedure for police conduct all over US (you may be unfortunate enough to have lived in Maricopa County under Sheriff Arpaio), but for the most part this is how police operates within the boundaries of existing state and federal laws.

2. ICE would not send 3 special agents because your neighbors reported you to be here illegally. As I noted above, even of you went to ICE and reported yourself to be here illegally they would at worst get annoyed with you and throw you out. Therefore I am assuming you mean police department sent 3 special agents? If so,

what for? Couldn't one officer sort it out?

3. Finally, if for whatever reason ICE was really interested in clearing things out they would most likely do one of three things: a) Knock on your door at 4am in the morning in SWAT gear and drag you to their removal prisons and keep there until bailout hearing (if you were eligible for one); b) send you a written notice to show cause or appear before judge for hearing (or before officer to be personally interviewed or physically removed on a specific date); c) they could wait until all your background checks were completed, interview scheduled and get you at their convenience when you appeared at USCIS to see your IO.

Again, I can't categorically say what did or didn't happen to you, I wasn't there, but it is unheard of to me and sounds highly unlikely that what you describe could happen the way you relay it.

Could it be that two ICE officers played cards and one lost to another in a bet that loser would prank someone like yourself and get a nice kick out of it?

Anyway, wish you good luck and let us know how it goes tomorrow.

[uzzmet 0]

We called to police to talk to our neighbors because it was impossible to talk to them. We have never yelled at them or fight back. Officer came and didn't do anything other than telling them to move their car.

While our neighbors were yelling they were blaming us as "terrorists" just because we speak another language, Turkish. So I guess they report us to FBI or DHS because these special agents showed their FBI badges. But as I told you it was 2 years ago and they said we're fine.

If you read my previous posts you will see I still don't know where I was called from. I just have the address and when I google, it says ICE. But it can be DHS too. I don't know.

[asdfg 18]

We called to police to talk to our neighbors because it was impossible to talk to them. We have never yelled at them or fight back. Officer came and didn't do anything other than telling them to move their car.

While our neighbors were yelling they were blaming us as "terrorists" just because we speak another language, Turkish. So I guess they report us to FBI or DHS because these special agents showed their FBI badges. But as I told you it was 2 years ago and they said we're fine.

If you read my previous posts you will see I still don't know where I was called from. I just have the address and when I google, it says ICE. But it can be DHS too. I don't know.

What you describe sounds inconsistent with how Police/DHS/ICE operates.

In event if your neighbors have reported you to the FBI as terrorist the things could happen to you after submitting your application , but again it is not likely that investigations office of ICE would phone you about it.

USCIS would simply deny your I-485 due to "classified evidence" ,summary of which would be provided to the judge if you challenged it in proceedings , but no way ICE would give you heads up about it calling you a day after package submission.

It just doesn't add up.

Edited January 22, 2013 by asdfg

[uzzmet 0]

Asdfg, I'm just hoping it's not a serious situation. If it was so serious, as you said, they would find me while I was sleeping or they would not let me go when they stopped me on NJ turnpike just 3 months ago if I was a wanted person. (IN NJ they issue your driver licence 2 months longer then your last I20's date so I was out of status but had a valid DL 3 months ago)

I'm not joking and having fun of people on this site. I filed everything by myself with a lot of helps from this site. Everything I wrote here is true.

I see this post became an hot topic. I promise I'll inform you all after this appointment. I really don't know what is this about and what will happen. Only thing I know I haven't done anything bad, I don't have any suspicious friend and anything. So I'm sure I'll be fine either just after this appointment or after hearings if they detain me.

[DC85 113]

I think your school reported you to ICE, and try to ask a lawyer who is familiar with deportation and removal proceedings. Did you check before you submit your application for AOS if you are in removal proceeding?

Edited January 22, 2013 by myafi1985

[uzzmet 0]

I'm sure school reported me. Lawyer said schools have only two weeks to report after 9/11.

So I'm sure I was on the ICE list. If they have a name matching system between ICE and USCIS, my name might be showed up immediately just after my files accepted by USCIS. The person who called me knew I filed my applications before I mention it. Maybe they just want to see original documents to close the case, that's it. This person on the phone promised nothing to worry about it and it's gonna be just 5 minutes. I don't believe him but right now, I just want to believe.

[Moomin 292]

What you describe sounds inconsistent with how Police/DHS/ICE operates.

In event if your neighbors have reported you to the FBI as terrorist the things could happen to you after submitting your application , but again it is not likely that investigations office of ICE would phone you about it.

USCIS would simply deny your I-485 due to "classified evidence" ,summary of which would be provided to the judge if you challenged it in proceedings , but no way ICE would give you heads up about it calling you a day after package submission.

It just doesn't add up.

No point in freaaking OP out other than inform and prepare. As already mentioned previously, there might be a different factor of why they contacted OP.

Here; http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/6/system-for-tracking-visa-overstays-is-almost-ready/

and http://homeland.house.gov/hearing/subcommittee-hearing-911-hijackers-amine-el-khalifi-terrorists-and-visa-overstay-problem (first video, around 3:20, she adresses why some overstays are being monitered - she calls it the visa exit system, an additional layer of security).

And yes - "way" - if they're trying to sort out the situation. Which may be in OP's favor when background checks are performed.

[coolmind1414 13]

I'm sure school reported me. Lawyer said schools have only two weeks to report after 9/11.

So I'm sure I was on the ICE list. If they have a name matching system between ICE and USCIS, my name might be showed up immediately just after my files accepted by USCIS. The person who called me knew I filed my applications before I mention it. Maybe they just want to see original documents to close the case, that's it. This person on the phone promised nothing to worry about it and it's gonna be just 5 minutes. I don't believe him but right now, I just want to believe.

I can feel your tension with the way you are writing it.

Good luck, Best wishes. And tomorrow I will wait for you to write your experience from NJ itself. Just be prepared with everything + have lawyer.. god bless

[asdfg 18]

Asdfg, I'm just hoping it's not a serious situation. If it was so serious, as you said, they would find me while I was sleeping or they would not let me go when they stopped me on NJ turnpike just 3 months ago if I was a wanted person. (IN NJ they issue your driver licence 2 months longer then your last I20's date so I was out of status but had a valid DL 3 months ago)

I'm not joking and having fun of people on this site. I filed everything by myself with a lot of helps from this site. Everything I wrote here is true.

I see this post became an hot topic. I promise I'll inform you all after this appointment. I really don't know what is this about and what will happen. Only thing I know I haven't done anything bad, I don't have any suspicious friend and anything. So I'm sure I'll be fine either just after this appointment or after hearings if they detain me.

uzzmet, I still find it hard to overcome my initial skepticism in light of what you describe to have transpired so far.

Notice: I am not saying what you describe didn't happen. After all I haven't been there and I can't speak categorically of things I am not fully aware of.

All I am saying is that I remain skeptical about it due to what appears in your account to be inconsistent with what would have likely happened under the circumstances you described.

I have read plenty of removal cases lost on appeal where the subjects were initially picked up by police for, among other things, nothing more than "looking suspicious" behind the wheel of a car (which led to traffic stop, subsequent run via criminal database, referral to legacy INS, years of litigation and finally order of removal confirmed by court of appeals).

But I find it odd that ICE investigations unit called you directly to pick a time of your liking to visit their office for a "5 minutes verification".

The FBI , if you were under investigation or someone else was investigated and you needed to be contacted, would do such a thing (In some cases they would approach you in person, in others you would get a call to meet and have a conversation).

But ICE doesn't work like that. ICE either sends an official document (with section of INA under which you are charged and time to appear for hearing, interview or deportation) or they just bust your door at 4am and drag you half asleep to the middle of nowhere on the other end of the US and keep you there until your hearing or physical removal. But you really have to do something criminal and outstanding, live in the household where fugitive is sought after or abscond your final removal order for such things to occur to you. And if above doesn't apply to you then they have no time to waste , to call and ask you for a conversation over a cup of coffee.

Assuming your school reported you and DHS wanted you to show cause, you should have received a letter from DHS informing you that you had x number of days before departing US or filing for an extension if eligible. Then you would get (if they elected to go after you) a notice to appear.

Only if you failed to respond to those would ICE get your name "blacklisted" , but a) you would get a notice of events and b) it generally takes more than few months before you can fail to appear, order removed and miss the deadline to appeal or review the decisions/rulings.

Anyway, I will not participate on this thread further , wish you good luck and assume yours' is one very rare case out of an ordinary pattern.

asdfg