Voters in Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin ban same-sex marriage

[garya505 2]

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

[Cristy 4]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Exactly. I babysat 2 kids and I knew they were gay when they were little. As well as my cousin. You just know. They may not be able to articulate it at 5 or 6 but I sure knew. And sure enough, I was right all 3 of them are gay.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

Then please refute. Prove us wrong.

You have the floor...

[Karen_L 1]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Exactly. I babysat 2 kids and I knew they were gay when they were little. As well as my cousin. You just know. They may not be able to articulate it at 5 or 6 but I sure knew. And sure enough, I was right all 3 of them are gay.

My mother has accurately predicted the comings-out of about 4 of my friends. There is just something there that makes it pretty obvious.

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

Well no, but the crux of so many arguments against same-sex marriage is that to be gay is a choice so if you can choose to be gay, you can choose to ungay yourself, which the gays should, and then they can get married to members of the opposite sex. And also, that if the government gives homosexuals the same protection/rights as heterosexuals, the gov't is "promoting" the choice to be gay, and encouraging others to make that choice. I was just saying that there's no choice involved here.

[garya505 2]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

Then please refute. Prove us wrong.

You have the floor...

Attacks on my integrity don't bother me, so I won't take the bait.

For the record, I would never oppose interracial marriage, as long as it's a marriage between one man and one woman.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

Then please refute. Prove us wrong.

You have the floor...

Attacks on my integrity don't bother me, so I won't take the bait.

For the record, I would never oppose interracial marriage, as long as it's a marriage between one man and one woman.

Let's be clear here - what do you actually oppose - the granting of equal legal rights to homosexual couples, or calling that recognition "marriage"?

[meauxna 15]

For the record, I would never oppose interracial marriage, as long as it's a marriage between one man and one woman.

Not that you've been answering me, but...

Could that be because *you* grew up during/after the time of desegregation, when interracial dating/marriage was already mainly accepted?

Could it then follow that some of us grew up during/after the time of out and open gay people, when being out and openly gay was already mainly accepted (certainly light years ahead of 30 years ago)?

[Karen_L 1]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

Then please refute. Prove us wrong.

You have the floor...

Attacks on my integrity don't bother me, so I won't take the bait.

For the record, I would never oppose interracial marriage, as long as it's a marriage between one man and one woman.

In my opinion, race and sexual preference are both biologically determined, so there is no real difference between them. So being against same-sex marriage is just as bad as being against interracial marriage.

What, in your opinion, is the difference between a person's race and a person's sexual preference that makes it bad to dislike one and okay to dislike the other?

[mybackpages 0]

Nice to see the night shift take over. My head hurts from banging it against the wall all day today

Hope you have better luck than me

[Cristy 4]

Nice to see the night shift take over. My head hurts from banging it against the wall all day today

Hope you have better luck than me

[garya505 2]

I have many gay friends, many of whom I've known since childhood. From as earlier as I can remember, there was always *something* different about these boys, even as young as 5 or 6 years old. I remember at age 7 my mother predicted a friend of mine would be gay and today he's 22 and he is FLAMING lol. I think sexuality is biologically determined; it's not a lifestyle choice. Has anyone here ever made a conscious choice to be heterosexual?

Also, no, I wouldn't mind my children spending time around gay people. My father's sister is a lesbian and I was raised around her and her partner of 20 years and I likes the menfolk When I have children, I'm sure they WILL be spending lots of time around homosexuals because so many of my friends are gay.

Even if it isn't, noone has established exactly why denying homosexual couples equal rights under the law would be harmful - either to themselves or society at large.

I'm not sure why homosexuality is being mentioned in the same breath as polygamy, but it does show one thing. That those who claim to have nothing against homosexuals, and apparently don't want to impose their views on others - consider homosexuality to be "deviant", and really don't want to concede that their lifestyle should be condoned by society by giving them those legal rights.

Those opposing homosexual marriage are more often than not the same caliber people that would have opposed legalizing interracial marriages a few decades back.

Not really.

Then please refute. Prove us wrong.

You have the floor...

Attacks on my integrity don't bother me, so I won't take the bait.

For the record, I would never oppose interracial marriage, as long as it's a marriage between one man and one woman.

Let's be clear here - what do you actually oppose - the granting of equal legal rights to homosexual couples, or calling that recognition "marriage"?

I oppose granting special rights to homosexual couples. I personally don't oppose the idea of a legal "civil union", as long as it gives equal rights to everyone, and is open to any number of people of any gender. A civil union essentially allows people to form a family unit for legal purposes. Why should it exclude anyone or be limited to two people? Granting the right of a civil union only to homosexual couples gives them special rights. Of course I oppose calling such civil unions "marriage".

The proponents of so-called "gay marriage" want homosexual couples to treated legally and socially as equivalent to heterosexual couples. I don't agree, and apparently neither do the voters in Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin.

Now, flame away.

[mybackpages 0]

I oppose granting special rights to homosexual couples.

But you don't oppose giving heterosexual couples special rights?

By the way making sure there is equity in marriage laws for all couples is not giving homosexual couple "special" rights, it means giving them the same rights as everyone else.

[garya505 2]

But you don't oppose giving heterosexual couples special rights?

No.

By the way making sure there is equity in marriage laws for all couples is not giving homosexual couple "special" rights, it means giving them the same rights as everyone else.

Giving homosexual couples rights not granted to other forms of relationships would be granting them special rights.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Giving homosexual couples rights not granted to other forms of relationships would be granting them special rights.

Such as? Specifically?

The proponents of so-called "gay marriage" want homosexual couples to treated legally and socially as equivalent to heterosexual couples. I don't agree, and apparently neither do the voters in Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin.

What are the practical legal and social differences between "marriage" and a "civil union"?

[mybackpages 0]

Giving homosexual couples rights not granted to other forms of relationships would be granting them special rights.

huh? what rights are we giving them that others are not granted? oh yea the polygamists...you know you should turn off rush limbaugh and let the fog lift. Critical thinking can be fun