Voters in Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin ban same-sex marriage

[Cristy 4]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

[mybackpages 0]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

accepting and punishing are two different things too.

You can not accept any lifestlyle as strongly as you want, you just can't go against the law to punish or exclude tose you choose not to accept.

Shall we read the 14th amendment together?

Gay marriage leads to the descruction of civillization.

I'm pretty sure this is their thinking

however unlike marriage between siblings, gay relationships continued for a further 4,000 years without civilization ending

Excellent point

[garya505 2]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

[Jenn! 918]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Yes, that is the question. Would you finally answer it?

Were your questions supposed to be rhetorical? They're not for me. They have definite answers, namely "nobody".

[Ecalos 0]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

God that makes me laugh SO HARD.

Its like saying "Gays are angry perverts and they're trying to take over the world!!"

Way to assume that they're bitter and spiteful, and the only thing they want to do with their lives is "teach everyone's kids to be gay". They wont force their beliefs on their children either, and trust me, they are perfectly happy whether their kids grow up straight OR gay. It doesn't matter to them, they love their kids regardless.

You cannot teach someone to be a homosexual. Nor would any of these people try. In fact, if the members of the gay community that I've met are any example, they simply wish you the best no matter WHAT kind of relationship you have. Half the world is trying to convince them that their lifestyle is evil and wrong, and that they should just "stop being gay". I've never seen a gay man telling another straight man "Hey it's wrong to be straight. What the f*** is wrong with you?!"

All they want is acceptance, the same right to a loving marriage that any of us have.

NinjaEdit: Spelling

Edited November 10, 2006 by Ecalos

[Peikko 1,575]

Sadly, those who are apposed to homosexuality do seem to believe that gays are perverted and evil. Go figure.

[Cristy 4]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Nobody.

And there is no sex involved in a surrogacy relationship. I and many of my friend have been surrogates for gay couples and I can't think of one who had sex with them. Why would a gay man want to have sex with a woman?

[garya505 2]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

God that makes me laugh SO HARD.

Its like saying "Gays are angry perverts and they're trying to take over the world!!"

Way to assume that they're bitter and spiteful, and the only thing they want to do with their lives is "teach everyone's kids to be gay". They wont force their beliefs on their children either, and trust me, they are perfectly happy whether their kids grow up straight OR gay. It doesn't matter to them, they love their kids regardless.

You cannot teach someone to be a homosexual. Nor would any of these people try. In fact, if the members of the gay community that I've met are any example, they simply wish you the best no matter WHAT kind of relationship you have. Half the world is trying to convince them that their lifestyle is evil and wrong, and that they should just "stop being gay". I've never seen a gay man telling another straight man "Hey it's wrong to be straight. What the f*** is wrong with you?!"

All they want is acceptance, the same right to a loving marriage that any of us have.

NinjaEdit: Spelling

There's a difference between teaching children it's acceptable and "normal" to be homosexual (which is what I was talking about), and trying to convert someone (which I was not talking about).

[meauxna 15]

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Is it an understatement to say that you'd benefit from an expanded world view?

[garya505 2]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Nobody.

And there is no sex involved in a surrogacy relationship. I and many of my friend have been surrogates for gay couples and I can't think of one who had sex with them. Why would a gay man want to have sex with a woman?

It happens all the time, usually before he decides he likes sex with men better (but sometimes even after).

[Cristy 4]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Nobody.

And there is no sex involved in a surrogacy relationship. I and many of my friend have been surrogates for gay couples and I can't think of one who had sex with them. Why would a gay man want to have sex with a woman?

It happens all the time, usually before he decides he likes sex with men better (but sometimes even after).

so did you have sex with men before you decided you liked women better? (I am assuming you are a man...if I am wrong reverse the question)

[Ecalos 0]

There's a difference between teaching children it's acceptable and "normal" to be homosexual (which is what I was talking about), and trying to convert someone (which I was not talking about).

It is normal and should be acceptable

It has been throughout history until somehow (I will not get into this) people got hung up on their own insecurities.

NinjaEdit: smileyface wasn't workin'

Edited November 10, 2006 by Ecalos

[garya505 2]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Nobody.

And there is no sex involved in a surrogacy relationship. I and many of my friend have been surrogates for gay couples and I can't think of one who had sex with them. Why would a gay man want to have sex with a woman?

It happens all the time, usually before he decides he likes sex with men better (but sometimes even after).

so did you have sex with men before you decided you liked women better? (I am assuming you are a man...if I am wrong reverse the question)

No, but then again I wasn't taught by my parents and teachers that it's normal to do that if you feel like it.

[Cristy 4]

discrimination based on sexual preference is illegal in my state

But gary thinks it shouldn't be because some choices are ok for society to accept and others are not?

That is correct. Do you really want society to accept all lifestyle choices?

The ones that aren't harming anyone, yes.

That's the question isn't it? So, who is it harming if we redefine marriage to include homosexuals? Who is it harming if homosexuals want to have children so they screw their neighbor to get pregnant (or whatever). Who is it harming if gay couples teach their children to be gay? Who is it harming if our children are taught that married people can be same-sex couples? So what if they go to school and are taught that maybe they are born gay, so they simply decide when they are 10 years old that they are? Who is it harming if your children is being taught that a so-called "gay marriage" is equivalent to a real marriage?

Nobody.

And there is no sex involved in a surrogacy relationship. I and many of my friend have been surrogates for gay couples and I can't think of one who had sex with them. Why would a gay man want to have sex with a woman?

It happens all the time, usually before he decides he likes sex with men better (but sometimes even after).

so did you have sex with men before you decided you liked women better? (I am assuming you are a man...if I am wrong reverse the question)

No, but then again I wasn't taught by my parents and teachers that it's normal to do that if you feel like it.

So how did you know you were a hetero? Did someone tell you that you were? Or that it was the acceptable way to be or it was ok? If you did not try both how do you know you are really a hetero? Were you born that way?

[Ecalos 0]

Well then maybe you're a suppressed gay man