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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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I posted this in the pinned thread but got no response so i thought I would throw it out here.

We are both in Canada now. My wife (the USC) works part time here - she can get a job easily as she is a nurse but our intent is that she remains 'retired'.

We will have the following to prove domicile:

1.a joint sponsor (stepson)

2.assets sufficient to meet the threshold on our own

3.additional assets - a house in Canada that we will not likely sell until we get through - it will certainly be listed by the interview - we may sell as we get closer but why go through the hassle of finding a temporary place to live here - I won't quit my job here until I get the okay at the interview

4.we will open a bank account there soon and transfer a decent sum of cash down there before the interview (like $10,000)

5.a rental agreement with my stepson that we will pick up his utilities and pay xx dollars on top toward their mortgage

6.we will start paying my stepson's utilities as part of our rental agreement a couple of months before the interview

7.wife will get her driver's license switched to down there a few months before interview

8.possibly have one of our vehicles down there and registered by then - it will be a 2,000 mile trek

9.neither of us will have a job unless we are very fortunate as things get closer

10. I will get a business license to start a coinsulting form in the two biggest cities in our state.

11. business cards with the name, e-mail and contact info in the US

Any other suggestions?

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Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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I assume you read the thread on domcile, what were your thoughts on what other people were required to have?

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I assume you read the thread on domcile, what were your thoughts on what other people were required to have?

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Yes, I certainly have read the thread and what I indicated in my list was what I could put together based on our situaton. What I was posting for was to have folks take a look and let me know if there is a glaring omission that I missed or something creative that I had not thought of.

Also hoping people might comment that it was more or less than they had and how well it fared for them.

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Yes, I certainly have read the thread and what I indicated in my list was what I could put together based on our situaton. What I was posting for was to have folks take a look and let me know if there is a glaring omission that I missed or something creative that I had not thought of.

Also hoping people might comment that it was more or less than they had and how well it fared for them.

Re your original question you are mxing support and domicile so it is not clear if you are using everything in your list to prove reestablishment of domicile or if you are lisitng everything that you are sending. Maybe if you broke it down into 2 separate areas 1) what you are doing for support and 20 what you are doing for domicile you might get a response.

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dom·i·cile (d m -s l , -s l, d m -) noun.

1. A residence; a home.

2. One's legal residence.

verb. dom·i·ciled, dom·i·cil·ing, dom·i·ciles

1. To establish (oneself or another person) in a residence.

2. To provide with often temporary lodging.

Anything to do with sponsorship is a different subject. The USC must prove they have established a place to reside in the USA for themselves and the beneficiary. A lease agreement, bank accounts, drivers license, bills, etc... are types of things to show this.

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Thank you so much. You have in the last two posts pointed out a flaw in my approach. I am most certainly confusing the domicile and support issues.

I will break them into two separate lists and add it hear and then maybe I can hone down on a list for domicile that will get past the Montreal officer. I guess that is my key worry. We are both in Canada and doing enough in advance to be sure we don't get delayed at the interview phase.

One question for clarity though. I am assuming that we should list only steps taken by my wife (the USC) to establish domicile or is it relevant to list things that I have done also.

Again, thanks - look for my updated post tonight please.

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Only the USC is considered for both support and domicile. Your wife is responsible for making sure she has a place for you to move to. She is responsible for making sure you have a co-sponsor if needed. What you do is of no consequence besides stating that you indeed have a place to move to. Anything you do is considered "immigrating."

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Okay, I have cleaned the list up to prove ONLY domicile and removed all of the support stuff. Simple questions:

1. do folks this is sufficient to satisfy the Con Off in Montreal that my wife has re-establishe domicile?

2 what else could/should we do?

My wife is retired now and we plan on her staying that way. (She is the USC). I plan on working down there but that doesn't help us a whole lot in the proof of her domicile.

Here is my list.

To prove domicile:

1. a rental agreement with my stepson that we will pick up his utilities and pay xx dollars on top toward their mortgage

2. we will start paying my stepson's utilities from our account in the US as part of our rental agreement a couple of months before the interview - this will help show that the rental agreement is bona fide

3. we will open a bank account there soon and transfer a decent sum of cash down there before the interview (like $10,000)- at a local bank like US Bank

4. re-establish a credit card in the US

5. wife will get her driver's license switched to down there on the visit before the interview

6. possibly have one of our vehicles down there and registered by then - it will be a 2,000 mile trek

7. travel documents showing visits for wife of 3 weeks in February, 3 weeks in May, and 3 weeks in August (all upcoming)

8. estimate from Upack for moving household

9. voter registration in US

10. Letter from employer saying she quit her job here to relocate to the US

11. Listing from a real estate agent for our house here

Whatta ya think?

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My answers are in red. The most important doc is the rental agreement everything else is support. I wouldn't move and register the car just for sake of proving domicile.

Okay, I have cleaned the list up to prove ONLY domicile and removed all of the support stuff. Simple questions:

1. do folks this is sufficient to satisfy the Con Off in Montreal that my wife has re-establishe domicile?

2 what else could/should we do?

My wife is retired now and we plan on her staying that way. (She is the USC). I plan on working down there but that doesn't help us a whole lot in the proof of her domicile.

Here is my list.

To prove domicile:

1. a rental agreement with my stepson that we will pick up his utilities and pay xx dollars on top toward their mortgage

This is good but I would word the agreement to state the amount of rent plus utilities not an amount toward their mortgage.

2. we will start paying my stepson's utilities from our account in the US as part of our rental agreement a couple of months before the interview - this will help show that the rental agreement is bona fide

I don't know current timescales for processing visa applications but usually there is a max 5 weeks notice of interview in Montreal so you might not have a 2 month window

3. we will open a bank account there soon and transfer a decent sum of cash down there before the interview (like $10,000)- at a local bank like US Bank

Not enough proof on it's own but works well in conjunction with 1

4. re-establish a credit card in the US

See 3 above

5. wife will get her driver's license switched to down there on the visit before the interview

Good idea but check how easy it is to switch license - every state is different and also your Canadian car insurance if she is still going to drive in Canada

6. possibly have one of our vehicles down there and registered by then - it will be a 2,000 mile trek

Not worth it if it is not your intent to take car at that time. Also you will not be able to bring it back into Canada while you are residents of Canada

7. travel documents showing visits for wife of 3 weeks in February, 3 weeks in May, and 3 weeks in August (all upcoming)

no points these just show trips

8. estimate from Upack for moving household

See 3 above

9. voter registration in US

good

10. Letter from employer saying she quit her job here to relocate to the US

See 3 above

11. Listing from a real estate agent for our house here

See 3 above

Whatta ya think?

1 Dec 2011 Mailed I-130
8 Dec 2011 NOA 1
20 Dec 2011 NOA 2

NVC

17 Jan 2012 Phoned NVC. Case Number allocated
18 Jan 2012 Emails received re AOS fee and Agent
20 Jan 2012 Electronic opt in email sent & response received
20 Jan 2012 AOS fee paid
20 Jan 2012 Form DS-261 Choice of agent filed
27 Jan 2012 Email received re choice of agent received. Can now pay IV bill
29 Jan 2012 IV bill paid
31 Jan 2012 Received written notification case at NVC (dated 18 Jan)
8 Feb 2012 Emailed AOS
9 Feb 2012 DS-260 submitted online & docs emailed
14 Feb 2012 Case Complete
5 Mar 2012 received email - interview date 10 April
10 Apr 2012 Visa Approved
10 Apr 2012 Email from Loomis - passport picked up from Consulate

June 2012 Moved back to US

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well I can't answer that because I am not the person in Montreal reviewing your file!

But as long as you have the lease and other back up evidence then it should be acceptable. This needs to be sent with the affidavit of support to show reestablishing domicile and make sure you have copies to take to the interview.

1 Dec 2011 Mailed I-130
8 Dec 2011 NOA 1
20 Dec 2011 NOA 2

NVC

17 Jan 2012 Phoned NVC. Case Number allocated
18 Jan 2012 Emails received re AOS fee and Agent
20 Jan 2012 Electronic opt in email sent & response received
20 Jan 2012 AOS fee paid
20 Jan 2012 Form DS-261 Choice of agent filed
27 Jan 2012 Email received re choice of agent received. Can now pay IV bill
29 Jan 2012 IV bill paid
31 Jan 2012 Received written notification case at NVC (dated 18 Jan)
8 Feb 2012 Emailed AOS
9 Feb 2012 DS-260 submitted online & docs emailed
14 Feb 2012 Case Complete
5 Mar 2012 received email - interview date 10 April
10 Apr 2012 Visa Approved
10 Apr 2012 Email from Loomis - passport picked up from Consulate

June 2012 Moved back to US

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