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:secret: it's charles

why should it be unusual to see a gun on someone in this day and age? it's legal. no laws were broken. no one died because an AR was seen in public.

Because a gun has one purpose, to kill, maim, or threaten to do so! Is that a message you want to be sending to all who come in contact with you? When a uniformed member of a police or military force have a gun at least there may be the assumption that he is there to protect you. What assumption do you think people, in this day and age, make about a non-uniformed person carrying such an instrument of mass murder?

i don't see a reason to castigate one doing it when it's within the law.

Many things within the law are socially reprehensible!

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While I agree that walking into JCP with an AR-15 is the kind of statement that tends to make people in cities look at all gun owners as whacky redneck extremists, this talk of "no one in the 'civilized' parts of the US owns guns" is frankly ignorant and insulting.

According to a 2011 Gallup poll, 47% of American adults report having a gun in their household. That may not be a majority, but it is hardly a negligible or fringe minority. http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx

Is my grandfather, the retired VP of a major chemical company, and denizen of Pennsylvania, "uncivilized" compared to you? My twin cousins, both NYC MDs? My uncle, the owner of a Florida marketing company? My father, the Atlanta-dwelling CIO of a biomedical firm? My lawyer friend in California? My colleagues in various branches of the National Park Service? My former coworkers in Austin, all having a bachelor's degree or above, and at least three of whom habitually carried concealed? How about the little old lady who was invariably packing while her dog and mine played in our suburban dog park? Myself, a PhD candidate who has lived and worked all over the world?

Just because all gun owners are not compelled to brandish their firearms everywhere it is permitted, does not mean that a substantial number of perfectly respectable and sane Americans do not cherish the right.

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While I agree that walking into JCP with an AR-15 is the kind of statement that tends to make people in cities look at all gun owners as whacky redneck extremists, this talk of "no one in the 'civilized' parts of the US owns guns" is frankly ignorant and insulting.

Ignorant, yes. Insulting, why? Anyway, who made that claim and where?

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Chuck, Chas, Charlie, they are all acceptable derivitives of the name Charles, no disrespect intended, just my preference to call you Chuck. One of my friends as a kid was named Charles and he cringed if we called him that, he thought it was feminine, so force of habit yanno? However I will try to keep it to Charles from now on.

if acceptable to the person being addressed. it's already been pointed out it's not acceptable to use any variations.

Anyhow, it does speak volumes of your social circle, mind you I do not have any experience with your PERSONAL social circle, but if you believe that open carry is the norm for anyone in the civilized US, you are sadly mistaken. Again, absolutely no disrespect intended, but you seem to believe that most people are comfortable being around guns in public. I would suggest that is simply not the case.

again, no, it does not. you know zero about me yet make broad sweeping generalizations. i've already stated i wouldn't do it personally - nor do i know anyone who would do that - yet why should i jump on the bandwagon castigate someone for doing something that is legal?

if a majority feel it is "socially reprehensible!" then follow the legal avenue to change the laws rather than jump on the high horse of judgmentalism when no laws are broken.

Charles doesn't live where most people live. In fact, Charles lives where nearly nobody else lives. That's one of the more common denominators among the gun slinging crowd - they all live in relative isolation. And they appear at times to be a bit unfamiliar with how the civilized rest of the country lives.

what's the definition of relative isolation? how many neighbors within 100 yards of one's home?

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Crickets. We go thru this with him all the time. He says it, then claims he did not.. He once told us there was no such thing as man made floods or lakes.

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Crickets. We go thru this with him all the time. He says it, then claims he did not.. He once told us there was no such thing as man made floods or lakes.

Good lord, you're clinging to that one hard, aren't you? I am pretty sure you mention it at least once a day.

It's like if we mentioned every day that you posted a totally misleading story from Fox News and laughed when someone mocked the source. Or how most of your subjects start with "the truth about..." and then contain no truth at all!

That would be almost as funny as man made lakes comments.

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Good lord, you're clinging to that one hard, aren't you? I am pretty sure you mention it at least once a day.

It's like if we mentioned every day that you posted a totally misleading story from Fox News and laughed when someone mocked the source. Or how most of your subjects start with "the truth about..." and then contain no truth at all!

That would be almost as funny as man made lakes comments.

The story was not totally misleading. It just left out the a very important fact. See I can admit when I am wrong... unlike any of you

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The story was not totally misleading. It just left out the a very important fact. See I can admit when I am wrong... unlike any of you

None of us have been wrong yet. :lol:

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Crickets. We go thru this with him all the time. He says it, then claims he did not.. He once told us there was no such thing as man made floods or lakes.

Where did I say that no-one in the civilized parts of the US owns guns? Where? Right, I didn't say that. Just because you guys are incapable of reading comprehension doesn't mean that I claim not to have said something I actually did say. Why do you always have to blame someone else for your own shortcomings? Can you try and man up once? Still want to talk about those lakes? I think we should rather discuss whether we should be concerned about you referring to a 14 year old female child as a woman.

Good lord, you're clinging to that one hard, aren't you? I am pretty sure you mention it at least once a day.

It's his way of trying to divert attention from his calling 14 year old girls women.

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The story was not totally misleading. It just left out the a very important fact. See I can admit when I am wrong... unlike any of you

:lol: Everyone always thinks they're the only rational one. Sorry, but you aren't any better than anyone else here. You're just as biased and just as hypocritical as the rest of us.

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And how exactly does that statement relate to gun ownership? Right, it doesn't.

Profuse apologies if you were using "slinging" in the sense of the word that means "to throw". Guns absolutely should not be slung in that manner for sport, and I join you in praying fervently that the group who engages in this reckless behavior is indeed isolated.

No, really, to which specific group were you referring when you mentioned the "gun slinging crowd" united by isolation and incivility? The original usage of "gunslinger" referred to outlaws and gun fighters- barbarous maybe, but a predominately urban subset of the population in modern times. Slinging can mean "to carry", a condition predicated on possession (Can't carry what you don't have). Colloquially, the expression can also (usually pejoratively) connote verbal brandishing, or advocating vociferously for something (see "bible-thumping").

By the two latter definitions, many people from all walks of life (self included as I have been known to both tote and tout a gun from time to time) could be described as part of a "gun slinging crowd". It's convenient to think of us as mostly living in isolation or being uncivilized, but that doesn't make it true.

 

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