New York passes toughest gun laws in the nation

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).

If you want to exemplify Jefferson in all his writings, you would have to eliminate organized religion, a standing army and navy, the Federal Reserve board, regulated banking, government borrowing, large corporations, and manufacturing, and provide every able bodied man enough acreage to provide for all his family's needs in an agrarian based economy. Oh, and you would be required to feed trees with your own blood.

Edited January 15, 2013 by The Patriot

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am sure California will soon respond in kind, to make America safer.

So New York will be safer than Vermont now? Because they did not have enough gun laws before?

We will see. They are right across the lake.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[scotinmass 588]

So New York will be safer than Vermont now? Because they did not have enough gun laws before?

We will see. They are right across the lake.

Can you see them from your back yard?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Can you see them from your back yard?

Front yard. Do the math...LakeFRONT property in Vermont on Lake Champlain. Hmmm, that would be the EAST shore of the lake, looking WEST at New York. White Face Mountain (Lake Placid)looked spectacular today.

The backyard has a view of Mt. Mansfield in Vermont

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[scotinmass 588]

Front yard. Do the math...LakeFRONT property in Vermont on Lake Champlain. Hmmm, that would be the EAST shore of the lake, looking WEST at New York. White Face Mountain (Lake Placid)looked spectacular today.

The backyard has a view of Mt. Mansfield in Vermont

I'm sorry I didn't have intimate knowledge of the exact location of your house. I've obviously not been paying enough attention to the life and times of Gary and Alla. My bad!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

If you want to exemplify Jefferson in all his writings, you would have to eliminate organized religion, a standing army and navy, the Federal Reserve board, regulated banking, government borrowing, large corporations, and manufacturing, and provide every able bodied man enough acreage to provide for all his family's needs in an agrarian based economy. Oh, and you would be required to feed trees with your own blood.

Fine by me.

I'm sorry I didn't have intimate knowledge of the exact location of your house. I've obviously not been paying enough attention to the life and times of Gary and Alla. My bad!

You made comments based on ignorance? That is SO out of character for you.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[scotinmass 588]

That would work in Maine. I'm gonna try it.

[sly_wolf 199]

So New York will be safer than Vermont now? Because they did not have enough gun laws before?

We will see. They are right across the lake.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

California shoots 0.2 more bad guys per 100,000 than Vermont! :dance: :dance:

[scotinmass 588]

You made comments based on ignorance? That is SO out of character for you.

I make sarcastic comments. It's what I do best.

[sly_wolf 199]

California shoots 0.2 more bad guys per 100,000 than Vermont! :dance: :dance:

What's with DC?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What's with DC?

I don't know, but I remember being in D.C. late in the evening one night, and not being able to find a working pay phone. It seemed there were burning barrels on almost every corner and I could hear the constant sound of breaking glass, interspersed with the occasional gun shot. Needless to say, I decided that was not a safe place to be, and headed back to the beltway.

Edited January 16, 2013 by The Patriot

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

Compare crime rates. These are "death rates" and include accidents.

Try again. Why would you choose this statistic? Oh wait...we will find out when you post the crime rates.

[scotinmass 588]

Compare crime rates. These are "death rates" and include accidents.

Try again. Why would you choose this statistic? Oh wait...we will find out when you post the crime rates.

Someone who is murdered by a gun or dies accidentally from a shooting or blows their brains out with a gun all have one thing in common. They're all dead and if there were no guns they wouldn't be.