Help with Co-Sponsor

[Az1988 0]

Because I have certain issues that are gonna need luck to pass with, I need a psych evaluation 'clean bill of health' because of things I've done in the past.. Depression guided crazines..

[Dissonantly 5]

Ah, sorry. I thought you meant you had 3 kids. o_O

[washington1972 12]

Because I have certain issues that are gonna need luck to pass with, I need a psych evaluation 'clean bill of health' because of things I've done in the past.. Depression guided crazines..

well I think those issue's wont be a problems with the medical test.I know some one whose on medication for long time.depression and mental health.and they are in the US right now.

well Good luck

[Az1988 0]

NOTE, UNPLEASANT CONTENT! I have large X scars on both wrists.. and some scarring on my leg (old scarring) so that's my biggest hump, the co-sponsor was just making it look impossible, now if I can figure the sponsor out, it'll just be this psych thing and all ways should be clear..

[bigdog 377]

The medical is all about getting it done.

[Villanelle 4,122]

You should not be denied if you suffer from depression.

You would be denied if you are considered "harmful" specifically your mental condition could be potentially harmful to others.

"Inadmissibility based on a physical or mental disorder is limited to applicants with associated harmful behavior or potentially harmful behavior."

You can read the complete immigration requirements for a medical exam in relation to mental health and substance abuse here- http://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/pdf/mental-health-cs-ti.pdf

[Villanelle 4,122]

You should also be aware of the following guidelines for the civil surgeons:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:FTEgTrJ0zTIJ:www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources/Designated%2520Civil%2520Surgeons/3_CS_Training-Physical_or_Mental_Disorder_Drug_Abuse_Addiction.ppt+uscis+medical+exam+psych&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiM_X4MjyXYBE9yBvLwl62iWUMUeorMPImkqxt9GJfOfAYSoOS5YB4M6uBzMzxeNQL09FPdVX07QUGyS8zmDvaaVxu42ZNOy_vPmx0UCRCAyjbzQtMUMtKqYj3EHYQWmxZ8RCQk&sig=AHIEtbTJHw2nYO3-PprNFPotZjNATJyqtg

according to page 11 a suicide attempt/scarring on your wrists (page 11) is considered harmful behavior and could make you ineligible however if it has been more then 12 months- it could fall into the category of 'less likely to recur' (page 14) which would make you admissible.

The best thing you can do is familiarize yourself with the procedures and be honest.

Edited January 14, 2013 by capri

[baron555 934]

for the co sponsor you include the co-sponsor him/herself plus any people living in their household, plus the person you are petitioning(the beneficiary) for. For example. If your co sponsor is married and has one child. you count

1. the co sponsor

2. the co sponsor's wife

3. the co sponsor's child

4. the person you are petitioning for(the beneficiary)

equaling 4 people

Math is wrong. You forgot the Petitioner (whose lack of income creates the need for the cosponsor).

That makes 5

[Cathi 5,795]

Math is wrong. You forgot the Petitioner (whose lack of income creates the need for the cosponsor).

That makes 5

yes, but the petitioner fills out a separate affidavit of support. The joint sponsor is not responsible for the US citizen

[Villanelle 4,122]

^ No her math is correct.

The co-sponsor is responsible for members of their household and the immigrant only. Thats it.

Take another look at the form.

I so and so am filling out this form on behalf of the immigrant.

You list the immigrants info in number 3. (If the immigrant was coming with minor children- that would boost the count, but if the immigrant coming alone its 1)

the co-sponsor then goes on to list the members in their household in 'part 8' this would include their spouse and dependent children.

Anyone they have affidavits for already in part 9.

Nowhere on the form is there a place for the petitioner to be counted.

So again for a co-sponsor-

cosponsor+immigrant=2

cosponsor+wife+immigrant=3

cosponsor+wife+child+immigrant=4

cosponsor+wife+2children+immigrant=5

[baron555 934]

You guys are SO WRONG

Why would the normal household size be 2 for the petitioner and the beneficiary if the petitioner makes the required income and then not be counted if they couldn't make the income and need a cosponser? The Cosponsor needs to support everyone, including the petitioner because they can not support the new household, and maybe not even themselves, according to the minimum income per USCIS?

Yes the petitioner submits a 134 form which will show not adequate income and then the cosponsor submits a 134 form hopefully to show adequate income for this new household (the petitioner and the beneficiary) plus any dependents that they are already responsible for.

If all this income evaluation is so close as to make a difference, the total's listed are really quite low, then this international couple should really re-evaluate their choices as this will be a very expensive proposition (immigrating and assimilating into the US) and maybe they are not ready for it.

Sound harsh? Nope, just reality. Love does not enter into and should not enter into this financial equation.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

You guys are SO WRONG

Why would the normal household size be 2 for the petitioner and the beneficiary if the petitioner makes the required income and then not be counted if they couldn't make the income and need a cosponser? The Cosponsor needs to support everyone, including the petitioner because they can not support the new household, and maybe not even themselves, according to the minimum income per USCIS?

Yes the petitioner submits a 134 form which will show not adequate income and then the cosponsor submits a 134 form hopefully to show adequate income for this new household (the petitioner and the beneficiary) plus any dependents that they are already responsible for.

If all this income evaluation is so close as to make a difference, the total's listed are really quite low, then this international couple should really re-evaluate their choices as this will be a very expensive proposition (immigrating and assimilating into the US) and maybe they are not ready for it.

Sound harsh? Nope, just reality. Love does not enter into and should not enter into this financial equation.

Baron-- a joint sponsor only has to add the immigrant to their own household size. The US citizen and her US child can go on welfare, food stamps, whatever...they are Americans. It is only the immigrant who must be sponsored so as not to become a public charge. Positive.

For k1s interviewing in London, they want a sponsor. If the fiancé can't sponsor, then she doesn't even have to do an I-134 for London. They will accept sponsorship from another individual or even self-sponsoring by the immigrant if he has enough assets or can prove his income will contine in the US. Later for adjustment of status, the I-864 has stricter rules and the petitioner will fill out an affidavit of support, even if if is inadequate.

[Kazulie 132]

You guys are SO WRONG

Why would the normal household size be 2 for the petitioner and the beneficiary if the petitioner makes the required income and then not be counted if they couldn't make the income and need a cosponser? The Cosponsor needs to support everyone, including the petitioner because they can not support the new household, and maybe not even themselves, according to the minimum income per USCIS?

Yes the petitioner submits a 134 form which will show not adequate income and then the cosponsor submits a 134 form hopefully to show adequate income for this new household (the petitioner and the beneficiary) plus any dependents that they are already responsible for.

If all this income evaluation is so close as to make a difference, the total's listed are really quite low, then this international couple should really re-evaluate their choices as this will be a very expensive proposition (immigrating and assimilating into the US) and maybe they are not ready for it.

Sound harsh? Nope, just reality. Love does not enter into and should not enter into this financial equation.

YOU are SO WRONG!!!

a co-sponsor does NOT count any relatives of the intending immigrant that are US Citizens!!!

Where/what would the co-sponsor even mark on his I-864 for the intending immigrant's US Citizen family?!?!?

Plain and simple, a co-sponsor is NOT responsible for any US Citizens!!! Think about it. And then come back and apologize. It's ok.

Edited January 15, 2013 by Kazulie

[melissa-n-alfredo 10]

It is very bad to give incorrect advise, based on opinion, instead of facts. Research the answer before giving input, on these matters. Because when you don't, it only causes even more confusion. The Co-Sponsor is ONLY signing affidavit for the BENEFICIARY and NOT the USC petitioner. The PETITIONER does NOT need a sponsor, to be in the US, they are already here legally. There are benefits for the USC ONLY (if needed), and they can still receive benefits WITHOUT including the beneficiary. However, the foreign BENEFICIARY can NOT receive any of these benefits during this process unless considering the sponsors income and assets as well (which may give government or beneficiary the entitlement to sue, if sponsor has failed their obligation, and then becomes dependent on government funds or programs ).

The sponsor or co-sponsor is SOLELY for the benefit and requirement of foreign fiance and/or their foreign child(ren), nothing more and nothing less. So, sponsor will file affidavit only including them self, their dependents, and foreign fiance and or foreign child (ren) immigrating. Ex. Petition + 1 dependent + fiance =3 TOTAL

Co-sponsor then will file separate affidavit ONLY INCLUDING their own household + foreign beneficiary (ies).

Both sponsor and Co-sponsor must provide supporting documents listed in the instructions/requirements on I-134, separately. The sponsor and co-sponsor's income and assets will NOT be combined, each is it's own. Similar to the process of having a co-signer on a loan or credit application ( not quite the same thing, but somewhat comparable).

[KayDeeCee 4,896]

You guys are SO WRONG

Why would the normal household size be 2 for the petitioner and the beneficiary if the petitioner makes the required income and then not be counted if they couldn't make the income and need a cosponser? The Cosponsor needs to support everyone, including the petitioner because they can not support the new household, and maybe not even themselves, according to the minimum income per USCIS?

Yes the petitioner submits a 134 form which will show not adequate income and then the cosponsor submits a 134 form hopefully to show adequate income for this new household (the petitioner and the beneficiary) plus any dependents that they are already responsible for.

If all this income evaluation is so close as to make a difference, the total's listed are really quite low, then this international couple should really re-evaluate their choices as this will be a very expensive proposition (immigrating and assimilating into the US) and maybe they are not ready for it.

Sound harsh? Nope, just reality. Love does not enter into and should not enter into this financial equation.

Nope, you are the one that is wrong. This is not the first time I have seen you post this misinformation. You apparently always ignore the corrections you receive. You are not correct just because you like to think you are. A co-sponsor is not agreeing to take responsibility in keeping the USC petitioner from being a public charge. The USC can file for government assistance as needed. They do not require a sponsor. The USC petitioner would only be counted by the co-sponsor if they were in fact claimed as a dependent on the co-sponsor's most recent tax return.

Household size is clearly defined in the I-864 instructions.

How Do I Count Household Size?

Your household size includes yourself and the following individuals, no matter where they live: any spouse, any dependent children under the age of 21, any other dependents listed on your most recent Federal income tax return, all persons being sponsored in this affidavit of support, and any immigrants previously sponsored with a Form I-864 or Form I-864 EZ affidavit of support whom you are still obligated to support.