Biden calls for bypassing congress on Gun Control

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

They'd have to concentrate on whats on the agenda instead of worrying about the party.

And the Senate has been split evenly a few times recently, even changing sides within the same term. That VP vote comes in handy for the President at times.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

And the Senate has been split evenly a few times recently, even changing sides within the same term. That VP vote comes in handy for the President at times.

Biden said today, Obama might require background check for private transfers.

No big problem with that for me,,,, Unless he bypasses congress.

[Harsh_77 718]

Biden said today, Obama might require background check for private transfers.

No big problem with that for me,,,, Unless he bypasses congress.

Yep I agree none of the Gun owners would have problem with that having the background check for the pvt transfer.

They need to make it accessible and convenient that is more important and I am sure most ppl would not be happy if they bypass the congress and make a unilateral move.

[natty bumppo 297]

Yep I agree none of the Gun owners would have problem with that having the background check for the pvt transfer.

They need to make it accessible and convenient and no record retention of firearm transferred that is more important and I am sure most ppl would not be happy if they bypass the congress and make a unilateral move.

eta ^^

[Harsh_77 718]

eta ^^

That is kinda double edge sword and I don’t know if I really oppose that as gun owner.

Its like more I sold the gun here is the transfer paper (just like a car) after that if the weapon is used for illegal purpose I am not responsible.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

eta ^^

Why don't you want a record? If you are doing everything legally, there is nothing to hide.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Why don't you want a record? If you are doing everything legally, there is nothing to hide.

Because then someone gets your info and posts your address on a map lol.

[natty bumppo 297]

Why don't you want a record? If you are doing everything legally, there is nothing to hide.

why does anyone ... especially the government ... need a record?

all anyone should be concerned about in the above scenario is if the buyer passes muster.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

why does anyone ... especially the government ... need a record?

all anyone should be concerned about in the above scenario is if the buyer passes muster.

How would anybody know you were making "shadow" or "straw" purchases, if no record was kept, or perhaps for tax enforcement purposes?

Because then someone gets your info and posts your address on a map lol.

Folks should know where the potential terrorists live, even more than where all the sexual perverts live.

Edited January 10, 2013 by The Patriot

[Harsh_77 718]

why does anyone ... especially the government ... need a record?

all anyone should be concerned about in the above scenario is if the buyer passes muster.

It would also help the Gun Owner if there is a record of the sale, as at the point transfer happen old owner is no longer responsible for the weapon.

[natty bumppo 297]

How would anybody know you were making "shadow" or "straw" purchases, if no record was kept, or perhaps for tax enforcement purchases?

didn't the hypothetical ppt requirement exist as stated above? are you saying people could/ would ... break the law?

tax enforcement?

Edited January 10, 2013 by natty bumppo

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

tax enforcement?

Sales tax. California wants their sales tax.

[himher 634]

I would be OK with that

Biden said today, Obama might require background check for private transfers.

No big problem with that for me,,,, Unless he bypasses congress.

[natty bumppo 297]

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Sales tax. California wants their sales tax.

You pay for nics?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You pay for nics?

No, for the actual gun sale. The transfer of tangible property except when sold to a reseller is taxable, either as sales tax if collected by the seller, or use tax to be paid by the buyer with his state income tax form if the seller did not. That includes out of state sales, if the item is taken possession of by the buyer in the state of California.

Edited January 11, 2013 by The Patriot