Facts are hard.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As dumb as having more guns to stop gun crime.

That is why when at war , you want the advantage of inferior fire power right. I think at my Infantry Officer Advanced course, I learned something about less fire power increased your tactical advantage. Just in case you think I am agreeing with you "that is sarcasm"

[Penny Lane 8,159]

That is why when at war , you want the advantage of inferior fire power right. I think at my Infantry Officer Advanced course, I learned something about less fire power increased your tactical advantage. Just in case you think I am agreeing with you "that is sarcasm"

Are we at war with each other? It's a sad day when every citizen should be armed to protect themselves from their neighbors.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

So you know that an Estwing framing hammer would make a great assault weapon. In close, hand to hand even better than an assault rifle.

looks quite similar to a horseman's pick.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Are we at war with each other? It's a sad day when every citizen should be armed to protect themselves from their neighbors.

Your right it is a sad day.. 500 murdered in Chicago last year. The cops sure did not help those people.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Your right it is a sad day.. 500 murdered in Chicago last year. The cops sure did not help those people.

Neither did all the guns. So many guns and that crime is still happening. So let's give people in other areas more guns and hope for a different result? Arm our kids, take a gun to the grocery store, etc.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Neither did all the guns. So many guns and that crime is still happening. So let's give people in other areas more guns and hope for a different result? Arm our kids, take a gun to the grocery store, etc.

But Chicago has strict gun control.. so..... Logic says ...

[Penny Lane 8,159]

But Chicago has strict gun control.. so..... Logic says ...

Logic says that poverty and a lack of education and an access to firearms is a dangerous combination.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Logic says that poverty and a lack of education and an access to firearms is a dangerous combination.

Crminals having guns despite very strict laws preventing it ... Hmmm novel concept.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Crminals having guns despite very strict laws preventing it ... Hmmm novel concept.

Yep, it's quite a mess.

[james&olya 1,121]

But Chicago has strict gun control.. so..... Logic says ...

Chicago, as well as a few other jurisdictions, have strict gun control to try and help prevent an already unacceptably bad situation from becoming a bit worse. No honest or sane person with an IQ over 50 has any problem understanding that it would require federal laws to actually make a serious dent in gun ownership and resulting gun crimes and gun deaths. Those who put forth your 'argument' do so stupidly and/or dishonestly! It is long past time to get over these tired nonsensical pseudo-arguments. It is a testament to the weakness of your pro-gun position that you must resort to this!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Penny Lane 8,159]

The odd thing is that these mass shootings don't tend to happen in these horrible areas like Chicago or Detroit. I wonder why that is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

Edited January 7, 2013 by Evylin

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The odd thing is that these mass shootings don't tend to happen in these horrible areas like Chicago or Detroit. I wonder why that is.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

No white people, so nobody notices when the horrible mass shooting do happen?

Detroit police refuse to release mass shooting suspect's description

Chicago Shootings: At Least 19 Wounded By Gun Violence Thursday, 13 Over 30 Minutes

Both of these were on your map.

Edited January 7, 2013 by The Patriot

[ready4ONE 5,400]

if driving drunk could protect you from other drunk drivers it might work, or if you could have legal drunk drivers and illegal drunk drivers. Since it it doesn't that that is just another dumb example.

All people driving drunk are criminals. Since we have banned drunk driving, then it should not be a problem right... Circular liberal logic.. Gotta love it.

Actually drunk drivers oftentimes survive accidents they cause that kill others. So not as silly as you make the example sound.