Facts are hard.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Edited January 6, 2013 by Run Herschel Run

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I always believe graphics that were made in MS Paint.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I'm gonna stock up on Estwings before they get banned too. Quick! Google that.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm gonna stock up on Estwings before they get banned too. Quick! Google that.

I was a framer one summer.. No need to google.

This thread has nothing to do with politics and religion. Should I report my own thread. LOL

I always believe graphics that were made in MS Paint.

So because it was done with basic software it not true ??

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Conveniently failed to add handgun deaths to the graphic.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Conveniently failed to add handgun deaths to the graphic.

Ahh that they did .... But the current debate is not about hand guns... You find that odd also huh ?

[Karee 4,190]

This thread has nothing to do with politics and religion. Should I report my own thread. LOL

No need. Steven will be along shortly to do it for you. He's the new P&R cop.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

No need. Steven will be along shortly to do it for you. He's the new P&R cop.

LOL It actually has everything to do with politics, .. Remind me who Steven is. The way you all change names and sigs I can't keep everyone straight.

[Karee 4,190]

LOL It actually has everything to do with politics, .. Remind me who Steven is. The way you all change names and sigs I can't keep everyone straight.

Lincoln's Mullet.

[lostinblue 1,989]

LOL It actually has everything to do with politics, .. Remind me who Steven is. The way you all change names and sigs I can't keep everyone straight.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

LOL It actually has everything to do with politics, .. Remind me who Steven is. The way you all change names and sigs I can't keep everyone straight.

I never know anyone's real name. I think think there are two that I remember. I know names, just can't match them to usernames.

So because it was done with basic software it not true ??

There are other things wrong with the graphic, other than MS Paint. I can't keep explaining the differences between knives, bats and cars and how they aren't like guns though. Some people just don't get it and it's my new year's resolution to not worry about what other people get or don't.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I never know anyone's real name. I think think there are two that I remember. I know names, just can't match them to usernames.

Click on the username. When you reach the profile, click on name history. That is how I keep track of who is who.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Click on the username. When you reach the profile, click on name history. That is how I keep track of who is who.

Bah, too much work! I wish that was info that popped up when you hovered over the username.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Since facts are hard, we should clarify that chart a little.

Medical malpractice is a legal term. People don't die from medical malpractice, doctors and hospitals get sued for it. 195,000 is an estimate of people died from potentially preventable medical errors. That estimate is the upper limit made from looking at 3 years of medicare data. Some of the things they look at as potentially preventable, such as pulmonary embolism and sepsis are also complications of surgery. They can be minimized, but they can't be prevented with current technology.

The majority of these cases involve surgical patients, so the actual comparison that needs to bed done is risk of having surgery vs risk of not having surgery. They actually do that with a lot of things, including gun ownership. So here are two statistical facts:

With the exception of non-medical surgery, the risk of mortality and morbidity from not having surgery generally outweighs the risk of having surgery.

The risk of death from having a gun in the house is greater than the risk from not having one.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Bah, too much work! I wish that was info that popped up when you hovered over the username.

It used to be that way. The last update moved all those functions.