Teenager used dads AR-15 to save younger sister

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Justice prevails! The thread is back in P&R. We should all learn from this and not give up. Our voices will be heard. Now I challenge everyone here to do it in the real world too, not just at VJ.

Good point. If we all voted our real heart none of theose clowns in Washington would be safe.

I know it seemed like a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. As my mom used to say.. "it's the principal of the thing".

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Good point. If we all voted our real heart none of theose clowns in Washington would be safe.

I know it seemed like a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. As my mom used to say.. "it's the principal of the thing".

Wise woman. We need to fight for principals. Way too much apathy out there.

[james&olya 1,121]

Actors ?

Used in a figurative sense. The actual facts behind these media stories often have little resemblance to the 'show' that is put on!

[james&olya 1,121]

Good point. If we all voted our real heart none of theose clowns in Washington would be safe.

I know it seemed like a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. As my mom used to say.. "it's the principal of the thing".

She probably meant 'principle'!

[james&olya 1,121]

Wise woman. We need to fight for principals. Way too much apathy out there.

I have never fought for principals. I did have a high school principal that didn't like the fact I would argue with him in our religion class. Even suspended me for it!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Used in a figurative sense. The actual facts behind these media stories often have little resemblance to the 'show' that is put on!

You mean someone did not use an AR-15 to stop a home invasion as sated. Any proof, or do you just hate the truth sob ad you wish it away.

[james&olya 1,121]

You mean someone did not use an AR-15 to stop a home invasion as sated. Any proof, or do you just hate the truth sob ad you wish it away.

I was not there. I have NO idea what actually transpired and how that is different from the many ways it is being 'spun'! I doubt you have any more actual knowledge of the events. But when has a surety of the accuracy of our knowledge ever prevented any of us resident sages from offering up our wisdom?!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I was not there. I have NO idea what actually transpired and how that is different from the many ways it is being 'spun'! I doubt you have any more actual knowledge of the events. But when has a surety of the accuracy of our knowledge ever prevented any of us resident sages from offering up our wisdom?!

wel you finally told the truth.. None of us ever let the facts stop a good rant

[Teddy B 17,252]

Thank goodness they had AR-15's, I'm sure no other weapon would have gotten the job done.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Thank goodness they had AR-15's, I'm sure no other weapon would have gotten the job done.

What you have said has a lot of truth.

"I'm sure no other weapon would have gotten the job done." This is our argument for NOT banning the AR15 ect,ect.If any of these shooters had not been able to use an AR15 then a different weapon would be used. In the process will have done as much or more killing. Our latest mass murderer had the ability to kill using the sidearms he had. If he had used the shotgun with buckshot every child would have been just as dead. The columbine killers first tried to use a bomb.

http://www.columbine-online.com/attack/columbine-attack-bombs.htm

The theater killer also could have use a bomb that night along with the oklahoma city bombing. Some people are evil pure evil and the fact is IF an AR15 was not used any other gun would have been just as deadly....if not more. Facts the antigun crowd will not put their minds around.

[Teddy B 17,252]

What you have said has a lot of truth.

"I'm sure no other weapon would have gotten the job done." This is our argument for NOT banning the AR15 ect,ect.If any of these shooters had not been able to use an AR15 then a different weapon would be used. In the process will have done as much or more killing. Our latest mass murderer had the ability to kill using the sidearms he had. If he had used the shotgun with buckshot every child would have been just as dead. The columbine killers first tried to use a bomb.

http://www.columbine-online.com/attack/columbine-attack-bombs.htm

The theater killer also could have use a bomb that night along with the oklahoma city bombing. Some people are evil pure evil and the fact is IF an AR15 was not used any other gun would have been just as deadly....if not more. Facts the antigun crowd will not put their minds around.

Unfortunately you've missed my point altogether, but carry on.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

The theater killer also could have use a bomb that night along with the oklahoma city bombing. Some people are evil pure evil and the fact is IF an AR15 was not used any other gun would have been just as deadly....if not more. Facts the antigun crowd will not put their minds around.

These people usually come in with more than one type of weapon. The theater killer had at least two others. Who can't wrap their mind around that?

[Teddy B 17,252]

These people usually come in with more than one type of weapon. The theater killer had at least two others. Who can't wrap their mind around that?

Exactly. I personally am for stricter gun control across the board, AR-15's are only a part of the problem.

[lostinblue 1,989]

These people usually come in with more than one type of weapon. The theater killer had at least two others. Who can't wrap their mind around that?

People who want to ban a certain type of gun thinking all will be well in the world if they do. Evil people will improvise.A few cans of gas poured in a few class rooms and lit would have caused as much death as a gun. Sad but true. Some people are pure evil.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

People who want to ban a certain type of gun thinking all will be well in the world if they do. Evil people will improvise.A few cans of gas poured in a few class rooms and lit would have caused as much death as a gun. Sad but true. Some people are pure evil.

I don't know anyone who thinks banning one type of weapon will solve anything. There are other ways of acting out whatever their evil plan is, but they generally go for the easiest. Guns. Easy access, able to take in multiple weapons, will kill many people and quickly with really not very much effort involved.