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My parent lost all my papers including birth certificate when we left my country (i.e boat people) but one of the requirement is my birth certificate. Is there anything else I can use to submit with the I-130?

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You usually don't submit the birth certificate with the I-130, but I've been hearing lately that USCIS local offices are requesting them. No there is no substitute. They want to know where you were born. You should be able ot get the birth certificate from your home province (where you were born).

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Look at this website. http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3195.html#certificates

Birth Certificates

You (and any family members immigrating with you to the United States) must obtain an original birth certificate issued by the official custodian of birth records in your country of birth, showing your date of birth, place of birth, and parentage Important Notice: All Immigrant Visa applicants must submit a long form original birth certificate. Short form birth certificates will not be accepted.

The certificate must contain the:

•Your date of birth

•Your place of birth

•Names of both parents

•Indication by the appropriate authority that it is an extract from the official records

Unobtainable birth certificates

If your birth record is not obtainable for any reason, a certified statement must be obtained from the appropriate government authority explaining why your birth record is unavailable. You must also submit secondary evidence such as:

•A baptismal certificate that contains the date and place of birth, as well as both parents names (providing the baptism took place shortly after birth)

•An adoption decree for an adopted child

•An affidavit from a close relative, preferably your mother, stating the date and place of birth, both parents names, and your mother’s maiden name.

Note: An affidavit executed before an official authorized to take oaths or affirmations must also be provided. More specific information is available from the NVC.

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You usually don't submit the birth certificate with the I-130, but I've been hearing lately that USCIS local offices are requesting them. No there is no substitute. They want to know where you were born. You should be able ot get the birth certificate from your home province (where you were born).

They're just asking for a copy of the certificate, correct? We don't need to send in an original?

As far as not having a BC... I found the following information that might or might not be useful: http://www.path2usa.com/us-birth-certificate

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They're just asking for a copy of the certificate, correct? We don't need to send in an original?

As far as not having a BC... I found the following information that might or might not be useful: http://www.path2usa.com/us-birth-certificate

Yes they only want a copy. Make sure it's the certified copy of the BC though. Not the original Certified Copy. You keep that for the interview. You submit a copy of the certified copy to USCIS. It will have the names of your parents, place of birth, etc., and is a very long form. If you were born in Ontario, it's very easy. You do it all online. Very quick and cheap, too!

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03/23/2022: Application for passport submitted at USPS facility under standard processing.

04/04/2022: Status changed to “The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 04/04/2022. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents...Your application locator number is 51*******.

04/04/2022: Check for passport cashed.

05/03/2022: Status changed to "The U.S. Department of State approved your application for your passport book. We're now printing your passport book and preparing to give it to you. You should receive your passport book on or around 05/09/2022."

05/05/2022: Passport Received.

05/09/2022: SSA Citizenship Status Updated.

05/25/2022: Naturalization Certificate received in mail.

 

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That's for NVC document intake, not I-130 submittal.

Prior to casefiles going to MSC, CSC and VSC followed the @#$ing instructions on the I-130, where it doesn't state a beneficiary's birth certificate is required.

When a casefile is routed to a local office from MSC, alas, it's 'local option' to see a beneficiary birth certificate.

Several folk here have reported an RFE for the beneficiary's birth certificate when the casefile is at the local office. It's not required, but a local office 'feels' otherwise.

grrrr.

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Thank you for your feedback and detail instructions. I came to Canada on a boat when we lost our country to North Vietnamese in the 1979, and my parent lost my birth certificate while we were at sea. Long story short I can not get a replacement from my country as I do not have one anymore (South Vietnamese).

I am just preparing the BC for the step after I-130. I am a newbie so please be kind and patience and help!!!

Thank you!

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Hi Kevin ! Reread post #6, thanks !

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Hi Kevin ! Reread post #6, thanks !

Darnell, some offices are requesting this info even though they aren't supposed to. It goes in the face of logic, I know, but those offices are sending out RFEs for birth certificates even at the I-130 stage. Unless you were lucky enough to have sent your application before Aug 15, 2012.

Per the guides, you aren't supposed to submit the birth certificate until the NVC stage, but many people are getting these RFEs requesting it. Here's to hoping they don't request it from you. They shouldn't; for some reason they have been lately. Local offices probably aren't used to the process.

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Passport Timeline (Submitted at USPS, Standard Processing, Standard Delivery, Locator number: 51) & SSA Update & Naturalization Certificate Receipt

 

03/23/2022: Application for passport submitted at USPS facility under standard processing.

04/04/2022: Status changed to “The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 04/04/2022. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents...Your application locator number is 51*******.

04/04/2022: Check for passport cashed.

05/03/2022: Status changed to "The U.S. Department of State approved your application for your passport book. We're now printing your passport book and preparing to give it to you. You should receive your passport book on or around 05/09/2022."

05/05/2022: Passport Received.

05/09/2022: SSA Citizenship Status Updated.

05/25/2022: Naturalization Certificate received in mail.

 

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bsd - thanks for echoing exactly what I wrote..

(No, I'm not being snarky, I swear)

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

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bsd - thanks for echoing exactly what I wrote..

(No, I'm not being snarky, I swear)

lol. Sorry man. I'm on a new medication that makes me less attentive. I think I'm going to stop commenting. I guess that's why they don't want me driving for the next few days while I'm on it. Thanks.

 

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Passport Timeline (Submitted at USPS, Standard Processing, Standard Delivery, Locator number: 51) & SSA Update & Naturalization Certificate Receipt

 

03/23/2022: Application for passport submitted at USPS facility under standard processing.

04/04/2022: Status changed to “The U.S. Department of State has received your application for your passport book on 04/04/2022. We're now reviewing your application and supporting documents...Your application locator number is 51*******.

04/04/2022: Check for passport cashed.

05/03/2022: Status changed to "The U.S. Department of State approved your application for your passport book. We're now printing your passport book and preparing to give it to you. You should receive your passport book on or around 05/09/2022."

05/05/2022: Passport Received.

05/09/2022: SSA Citizenship Status Updated.

05/25/2022: Naturalization Certificate received in mail.

 

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That's for NVC document intake, not I-130 submittal.

Prior to casefiles going to MSC, CSC and VSC followed the @#$ing instructions on the I-130, where it doesn't state a beneficiary's birth certificate is required.

When a casefile is routed to a local office from MSC, alas, it's 'local option' to see a beneficiary birth certificate.

Several folk here have reported an RFE for the beneficiary's birth certificate when the casefile is at the local office. It's not required, but a local office 'feels' otherwise.

grrrr.

They might was well get the original certified or something alternative while they can and get it out of the way. They WILL have to submit it at the NVC stage anyway. Per the poster, they don't have a copy or anything of the birth certificate. The NVC guidelines for getting a birth certificate or alternative methods to use in place of the birth certificate are good.

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Kevin - the alternative methods for getting a record of birth, back in post #3 - follow that, get something, aye?

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

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Either way, you're going to need something at some point so get what you can somehow as per post #3.

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http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=8987

The reciprocity schedule for Vietnam has the following:

When primary documents are unavailable, secondary evidence regarding Vietnamese who fled their country beginning in April 1975 may be available from the individual and his or her refugee record. If the applicant received first asylum in Taiwan, cable AIT - Taipei; if in Thailand, cable the U.S.Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand and slug for ODP; if elsewhere in east or southeast Asia, cable the U.S.Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand and slug for RMA/ODP.

Do your parents still have your refugee card/record?

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