House GOP blocks Violence Against Women Act

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Came across an interesting article today which I am not allowed to post or quote here because it's not authored in English. Anyway, the article discusses how the justice system in India is in an unusually aggressive manner pursuing the cases against the low lives that gang raped the young woman that has now passed away as a result of that despicable act. The perps are standing trial not for rape but for murder and may very well face the death penalty. As they well should.

They get it in India - I'd say that's a major breakthrough - and yet here we have our own knuckle dragging crowd still not grasping the rather simple concept that it takes extraordinary measures to effect real and lasting change. Whether that needed change is ending the devaluation of women, the discrimination against minorities or against people with disabilities doesn't matter. Violence against women is still quite prevalent in this country. Many boys are still raised believing that violence against women is acceptable. It isn't. Until everyone gets that message, special protections will be required. Looking at the comments of the knuckle dragging crowd here, we're far away from where we need to be.

Edited January 4, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Came across an interesting article today which I am not allowed to post or quote here because it's not authored in English. Anyway, the article discusses how the justice system in India is in an unusually aggressive manner pursuing the cases against the low lives that gang raped the young woman that has now passed away as a result of that despicable act. The perps are standing trial not for rape but for murder and may very well face the death penalty. As they well should.

They get it in India - I'd say that's a major breakthrough - and yet here we have our own knuckle dragging crowd still not grasping the rather simple concept that it takes extraordinary measures to effect real and lasting change. Whether that needed change is ending the devaluation of women, the discrimination against minorities or against people with disabilities doesn't matter. Violence against women is still quite prevalent in this country. Many boys are still raised believing that violence against women is acceptable. It isn't. Until everyone gets that message, special protections will be required. Looking at the comments of the knuckle dragging crowd here, we're far away from where we need to be.

There is so much wrong with that post I don't know where to begin. Do you even have the slightest clue about how women in India are treated or how the Indian justice system deals with women that are beaten, raped, or even burned to death not to mention juvenile women being forced into marriage?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There is so much wrong with that post I don't know where to begin. Do you even have the slightest clue about how women in India are treated or how the Indian justice system deals with women that are beaten, raped, or even burned to death not to mention juvenile women being forced into marriage?

I do. The real question is this: Do you have the slightest clue how bad a problem violence against women still is in the US? Seems quite obvious to me that you do not. Now, drag them knuckles back into that cave, will ya'?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning

Bride burning

Bride burning is a form of domestic violence, most common in South Asia, in which a bride is killed at home by her husband or husband's family due to his dissatisfaction over the dowry provided by her family. The act is often a result of demands for more or prolonged dowry after the marriage.[1] Kerosene is most often used as the fuel.[2] It has been a major problem since at least 1993.[3]

This crime has been treated as culpable homicide and, if proven, is punishable accordingly, typically up to a death sentence or life imprisonment.[4] Bride burning has been recognized as an important public health problem in India,[5] accounting for around 2,500 deaths per year in the country.[5] In 1995, Time Magazine reported that dowry deaths in India increased from around 400 a year in the early 1980s to around 5,800 a year by the middle of the 1990s.[6] A year later, CNN ran a story saying that every year police receive more than 2,500 reports of bride burning.[7] According to Indian National Crime Record Bureau, there were 1,948 convictions and 3,876 acquittals in dowry death cases in 2008.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing

Acid throwing

The Thomas Reuters Foundation survey [18] says that India is the fourth most dangerous place in the world for women to live in [19] as women belonging to any class, caste or creed and religion can be victims of this cruel form of violence and disfigurement, a premeditated crime intended to kill or maim her permanently and act as a lesson to put her in her place. In India, acid attacks on women[20] who dared to refuse a man's proposal of marriage or asked for a divorce [21] are a form of revenge. Acid is cheap and easily available and is the quickest way to destroy a woman's life. The number of acid attacks have been rising[22] in India and there have been 68 reported acid attacks in the state of Karnataka since 1999.[23] Most of the female victims suffer more because of police apathy in dealing with cases of harassment as that of a safety issue as they refused to register a police case despite the victim being attacked thrice before meriting police aid after an acid attack.[24]

One such incident would be Sonali Mukherjee's case where the perpetrators were granted bail after being sentenced to nine years of Jail. Thereafter, when her family approached High Court, all the legislators, and MPs in search of justice, all she got in return was assurances and "nothing else". The perpetrators got away scot-free.[25] Without media attention, an acid attack victim languishes in pain and poverty[26], their families often unable to bear the medical expenses due to the lack of a Publicly funded health care system in India.

Indian acid attack survivor Shirin Juwaley founded Palash Foundation [27] to help other survivors with "psycho-social rehabilitation". She also spearheads research into social norms of beauty, speaks publicly, and blogs regularly at Do I Look 'Normal'?.[28] In 2011, the principal of an Indian college refused to have Juwaley speak at her school for fear that Juwaley's story of being attacked by her husband would make students "become scared of marriage".[29]

Tom O'Neill of National Geographic reported that acid throwing is also used to enforce the caste system in modern India.[30]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_teasing

Eve teasing

Eve teasing is a euphemism used in India and sometimes Bangladesh[1] for public sexual harassment or molestation of women by men, with use of the word "Eve" being a reference to the biblical Eve, the first woman.[2] It implies that the woman is in some way responsible for the behaviour of the perpetrators of this act. Considered a problem related to delinquency in youth,[3] it is a form of sexual aggression that ranges in severity from sexually suggestive remarks, brushing in public places and catcalls to outright groping.[4][5][6] Sometimes it is referred to with a coy suggestion of innocent fun, making it appear innocuous with no resulting liability on the part of the perpetrator.[7] Some voluntary organisations have suggested that the expression be replaced by a more appropriate term.[8] According to them, considering the semantic roots of the term in Indian English, Eve teasing refers to the temptress nature of Eve, placing responsibility on the woman as a tease.[9]

Sexual harassment by strangers, as with any type of harassment, has been a notoriously difficult crime to prove, as perpetrators often devise ingenious ways to harass women, even though eve teasing usually occurs in public places, streets, and public transport.[10] Some feminist writers claim that this behaviour is a kind of "little rape".[11] Some guidebooks to the region warn female tourists to avoid attracting the attention of these kinds of men by wearing conservative clothing.[12][13] However, this harassment is reported both by Indian women and by conservatively dressed foreign women.[14]

Edited January 4, 2013 by Bad_Daddy

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I do. The real question is this: Do you have the slightest clue how bad a problem violence against women still is in the US? Seems quite obvious to me that you do not. Now, drag them knuckles back into that cave, will ya'?

Do I? Do you have any idea what it's like out in the real world? In the US a man can go to jail on a DV for telling his wife to ** off. All she has to do is pick up the phone, dial 911 and tell them any bs she feels like telling them. Then comes the jail time, the DV classes and the probation. Most countries laugh at this bs. Again get out of the living room and see some of the real world.

Women here have all the laws bent their way and it's gotten epidemic as far as putting men in jail over a "she said this and he did this". Look I usually take right wing stands on here but even I know when to draw the line. If you think women in the US don't have the laws behind them then you are sadly mistaken. Don't worry about new laws, enforce the ones you already have on the books.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Do I? Do you have any idea what it's like out in the real world? In the US a man can go to jail on a DV for telling his wife to ** off. All she has to do is pick up the phone, dial 911 and tell them any bs she feels like telling them. Then comes the jail time, the DV classes and the probation. Most countries laugh at this bs. Again get out of the living room and see some of the real world.

Women here have all the laws bent their way and it's gotten epidemic as far as putting men in jail over a "she said this and he did this". Look I usually take right wing stands on here but even I know when to draw the line. If you think women in the US don't have the laws behind them then you are sadly mistaken. Don't worry about new laws, enforce the ones you already have on the books.

I see, because we have few or no cases of acid attacks on women, we're golden. Just like I thought. As I said before: knuckles, cave - well, you know the drill.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I see, because we have few or no cases of acid attacks on women, we're golden. Just like I thought. As I said before: knuckles, cave - well, you know the drill.

You don't even debate anymore. You just jump on a thread about a subject you have little or no clue on and then make post like that. If you don't know about a topic then do some research first. You have google.

Edited January 4, 2013 by Bad_Daddy

[Obama 2012 1,714]

nvm..

Edited January 4, 2013 by Obama 2012

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You don't even debate anymore. You just jump on a thread about a subject you have little or no clue on and then make post like that. If you don't know about a topic then do some research first. You have google.

Reinhard is tired.......Nani make him work long hours ...... LOL

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You don't even debate anymore. You just jump on a thread about a subject you have little or no clue on and then make post like that. If you don't know about a topic then do some research first. You have google.

Your ignorant posts on this subject suggest that it is YOU that needs to do some research and information gathering on the issue. Violence against women is a real and present issue in this country that deserves public attention and requires to be addressed. The fact that you disagree with that does not mean that I am not informed on the issue. Wife beating may be okay in the caves of Alaska and other such backward places. To civilized people, it is not acceptable. And yes, there are civilized people in this country.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Your ignorant posts on this subject suggest that it is YOU that needs to do some research and information gathering on the issue. Violence against women is a real and present issue in this country that deserves public attention and requires to be addressed. The fact that you disagree with that does not mean that I am not informed on the issue. Wife beating may be okay in the caves of Alaska and other such backward places. To civilized people, it is not acceptable. And yes, there are civilized people in this country.

Did the kid jack your computer?

The US has about the strictest DV laws going atm and has had for years. Again you just post to post...bored maybe? Look try this. Start a topic on here you know something about, and if I don't have a clue on it I won't post on it or I'l read up on it and then do a reply.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The US has about the strictest DV laws going atm and has had for years.

And yet, we're in the top 10 for DV prevalence among the OECD nations (bet you didn't know that). That means there is more to be done.

Edited January 4, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

And yet, we're in the top 10 for DV prevalence among the OECD nations (bet you didn't know that). That means there is more to be done.

Lets see now. Next to China the US is the most populated country in the world. The US records every DV whether it was prosecuted or not. Now if you were a chick in ...say a RUB country and your ol man beat your ####### but good and you called the police do you think it would be entered into the books and later on as a statistic? Not hardly. Please name a country where a man can get arrested on a DV charge without ever committing a crime? In the US the man doesn't even have to be within a hundred miles of the woman in order to get arrested for a DV.

I'm sure that right as we speak the police in Russia, India, Pakistan, China, etc... are responding to DV calls and recording them for statistics. LOL...who the h*ll am I kidding. We know they aren't.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Lets see now. Next to China the US is the most populated country in the world. The US records every DV whether it was prosecuted or not. Now if you were a chick in ...say a RUB country and your ol man beat your ####### but good and you called the police do you think it would be entered into the books and later on as a statistic? Not hardly. Please name a country where a man can get arrested on a DV charge without ever committing a crime? In the US the man doesn't even have to be within a hundred miles of the woman in order to get arrested for a DV.

I'm sure that right as we speak the police in Russia, India, Pakistan, China, etc... are responding to DV calls and recording them for statistics. LOL...who the h*ll am I kidding. We know they aren't.

stop throwing facts at him, that's unfair

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Lets see now. Next to China the US is the most populated country in the world. The US records every DV whether it was prosecuted or not. Now if you were a chick in ...say a RUB country and your ol man beat your ####### but good and you called the police do you think it would be entered into the books and later on as a statistic? Not hardly. Please name a country where a man can get arrested on a DV charge without ever committing a crime? In the US the man doesn't even have to be within a hundred miles of the woman in order to get arrested for a DV.

I'm sure that right as we speak the police in Russia, India, Pakistan, China, etc... are responding to DV calls and recording them for statistics. LOL...who the h*ll am I kidding. We know they aren't.

Someone doesn't know what prevalence is or what the OECD is. You have google, don't you?

stop throwing facts at him, that's unfair

And you don't know either.